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DigitallyInclined

Last year, I [posted a chart](https://www.reddit.com/r/ATT/comments/j59wn3/update_heres_a_guide_to_atts_current_and_recently/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) of AT&T’s current and recently grandfathered Unlimited Tablet plans. There have been some changes over this past year and we’ve been tracking all those changes. So, finally, we have an updated chart! Hopefully it is now accurate as of the time of this posting. Thanks to everyone who helped compile this information!


BV1717

Hi just wondering does the unlimited for tablet actually stre in HD+ resolution since on the website it says 480p only streaming No option to turn off stream saver either


DigitallyInclined

When did you get the Unlimited For Tablet plan? And did you get it as a standalone or add-on?


BV1717

Actually got it yesterday Called into them and added it for a Tab S7 Have to go to a store though today since they mailed me a micro instead of nano


DigitallyInclined

Okay. So did you add it to your phone plan with AT&T or did you get it as a standalone tablet plan?


BV1717

Standalone tablet plan Only issue I am having is that sometimes when they run the IMEI checker with the Tab S7 since it's from TMobile it's telling them to put it on a $75 plan since unlimited tablet is $75 instead of $20


DigitallyInclined

If you got a standalone plan, it should be the “AT&T Unlimited Tablet” plan. They may have set you up with the wrong plan.


BV1717

Online it shows at AT&T unlimited tablet Although the reps on the phone when running the IMEI say that the Tab S7 needs the higher priced plans for some reason


DigitallyInclined

Then that is the current standalone tablet plan that has Stream Saver. You may not have found the switch. [This might help you](https://www.att.com/support/article/wireless/KM1169198/). The rep probably is either incompetent, lying, or unwilling.


BV1717

Thanks Went into a store and basically everything is set and they disabled stream saver for me Only issue is that with NRBroadband apn I get no service


DigitallyInclined

The APN should just be "broadband" (no quotes)


chrisprice

The plan doesn’t have any official promotion. It’s an under the table / unofficial plan.


BV1717

Thanks!


_Stealth_

Just use a VPN


DigitallyInclined

Not needed if you have the right plan.


DeliveryStreet

Thanks for thr graphic


DigitallyInclined

No problem!


MrSpring68

Is the 25% discount just for FAN or teachers also get the discount?


DigitallyInclined

I don’t think teacher discount works on the add-on plan. But, not 100% sure.


MrSpring68

I gave up my FAN in order to get the teacher discount on my lines. AT&T wasn’t able to maintain the two discounts on my account.


DigitallyInclined

Oh true. You could call them and see! Or maybe someone here knows.


TXgeorge

These discount only apply to voice lines...


DigitallyInclined

The FAN discount does apply to the add on tablet plan. But are you saying the teacher discount only applies to voice lines?


TXgeorge

A military discount apply to voice line Interesting FAN apply to add-on tablet plan.....


DigitallyInclined

Yeah. Do you have an add-on tablet plan?


TXgeorge

No, I dont have one, but I saw the new add-on can got that 25% discount, another great news, haha. But my plan is full, can I get 25% discount if I create another plan under same account? The rep told me yes I can get.


DigitallyInclined

Oh yeah. So, when you say your plan is full, do you mean you have 10 lines already?


TXgeorge

Yes, 10 line on Elite Mil.


DigitallyInclined

Oh okay. You would then get the standalone tablet plan in that case, which unfortunately doesn’t get the 25% discount. Also, I’m not sure if the Military discount will apply to add-on tablet plans. I only know for sure the FAN discount will.


valuepac

If you have ATT internet you get 25% off your bill.


Yuhfhrh

Nice to see an updated chart. Everything looks accurate. Long live the under the table plans!


DigitallyInclined

Yes! Thanks for the confirmation! And thanks for the help with the original chart last year. :-)


vartanarsen

You mean Under the Tablet plans lol


DigitallyInclined

Lol


vartanarsen

Do you know the difference between the q18 an q19s?


DigitallyInclined

Hello! Are you referring to the QCI 8 vs QCI 9 in the chart?


vartanarsen

Yeah sorry


DigitallyInclined

Oh okay. So, in general, cellular carriers prioritize data basically from QCI 6 - QCI 9. QCI 8 should give you mid-range priority. QCI 9 will work great until there are a lot of people connected to the same tower. That busy tower will make sure that QCI 6-7 customers have top speeds, then QCI 8 should have top to middle speeds, then QCI 9 will have slower speeds. That the basics.


vartanarsen

Thanks!


kevink4

My Unlimited for Tablet plan, which I signed up for Dec 31, 2020, does NOT have unlimited hotspot data. It has 10GB. Everything else looks correct. As for whether it supports 5G, I have no idea. I don't see anything mentioning it on my account pages, and my iPad is the 2018 model without 5G.


DigitallyInclined

Thanks for sharing this info! I guess the chart isn't clear, but what the chart is saying is that the Unlimited For Tablet standalone tablet plan used to have unlimited and unthrottled hotspot data until they changed the plan, even for existing customers, in Feb 2021 to 10 GB. Also, it does support 5G, if you get the SIM provisioned for 5G with a 5G tablet IMEI.


kevink4

Thanks. Yes, I read it as accounts before Feb had unlimited. Those with unlimited plans from the previous year were lucky that they didn't take their unlimited hotspot away. Maybe the number of people abusing it isn't high enough, or ATT doesn't care as much since it doesn't support 5G. So may fix itself over time. Like how long ATT allowed grandfathered prepaid unlimited plans to be used in hotspots.


DigitallyInclined

Yeah, I still have my “Access For iPad 4G LTE” standalone plan with unlimited and unthrottled hotspot data. Glad they haven’t taken it away yet!


kevink4

In case of emergency I have 10GB on my iPad, and 10GB on my phone. Unless I'm streaming video, that should be sufficient.


DigitallyInclined

Nice! You have a good setup!


godogs2018

Anyone have any luck w/ putting the sim in a phone and using the data that way with no repercussions?


DigitallyInclined

AT&T checks IMEI occasionally and sometimes will enforce the TOS, so it may take some time, but eventually it will be shut down. However, I have seen people report on Reddit that they have been able to get their phone to work with it.


jushjustice

I have it working on my Note 20 Ultra.


godogs2018

I currently have the $55 100GB prepaid plan in my iPhone 12 mini. I've gotten away with it for 2 months so far. I only add enough funds at the end of the month to keep it going another month. Just in case they shut it down, at least I will not lose more than one month's fee.


DigitallyInclined

Well, that plan is different. They pretty much don’t care what device you have that SIM in. But for the postpaid tablet plans….they only want that SIM in a tablet.


jushjustice

I use it in my Note 20 Ultra, and then I put the SIM card back in my iPad for a while just to be on the safe side.


DigitallyInclined

Nice! How long have you been using it?


TXgeorge

Now these tablet plan support HD+? A good news!


DigitallyInclined

Yes, the add-on plans used to be 480p, but back in early Sept they changed it. Thank goodness!


TXgeorge

Yeah, it's boring me for a long time. Now I can cancel my mobley plan since there's no advantages.


DigitallyInclined

Well, the Mobley plan can be put in any device with no IMEI mods needed. The tablet plan requires IMEI mods in non-tablets to avoid shutdown.


NovemberBlu13

I currently have AT&T phone service with the $20 Add on tablet plan. I get a signature discount on my phone lines, but I have never received a discount for the tablet. I’m wondering if I should have been, and if so, what’s the best way to inquire about this?


DigitallyInclined

Which specific phone plan do you have?


NovemberBlu13

Unlimited elite, 2 lines plus the tablet.


DigitallyInclined

Oh okay. Do you have the original Elite from before Sept 25, 2020? Or the UYW Elite, from after Sept 25, 2020?


NovemberBlu13

I had to check. I changed over to the unlimited elite on September 24, 2020.


DigitallyInclined

Oh okay. So, the 25% discount only applies to the Unlimited Your Way Elite add-on tablet plan. You are probably on the original Elite plan.


NovemberBlu13

I’m on the current unlimited elite plan that AT&T is offering, but I was on unlimited my way elite, prior to that. I think the 9/24 date is correct … my bill changed to unlimited elite for the 9/24 billing cycle last year, so that’s what I was basing that date on. Hope that makes sense.


DigitallyInclined

Well, the original Elite was offered from Sept 2019-Sept 24, 2020. On Sept 25, 2020, they switched to Unlimited Your Way Elite. At this point, the best way to tell is to log into the myAT&T website and check under “My Services.” Does it say the plan name there or does it say “My (#) plan devices”? Here’s a [screenshot](https://i.imgur.com/iCZAi6u.jpg) of the difference.


NovemberBlu13

It looks like I’m on the unlimited your way elite plan, which is what it says when I login to the phone app. But, I always use the website, and that just says unlimited elite, so I’m sure that’s why I was confused. And it looks like I may or may not be eligible from these screenshots(hope it works, first time using imgur😬.[screenshot ](https://imgur.com/a/htncrIM)


NovemberBlu13

A few more screenshots.[screenshot ](https://imgur.com/a/Lvp2Lrc)


DigitallyInclined

Okay, then yes, you are on UYW Elite. So if you have a FAN, then you should be able to get a discount on your tablet line!


ttamatar

Am I reading this chart correctly, that as of today, there is no difference between the grandfathered stand alone plan of "Unlimited for Tablet" and the currently active stand alone plan of "AT&T Unlimited Tablet" (other than of course different name)?


DigitallyInclined

Correct. Only the name changed in May 2021.


ttamatar

Interesting. I wonder why they even bothered grandfathering the old plan and creating a new one, if both the old plan and the new plan are identical. There has to either be a reason, or a difference.


Yuhfhrh

I suspect there is a difference, though I don't know what it is. I haven't personally verified the "AT&T" version has QCI8 data through NSG like Access and Unlimited for Tablet do, but I assume someone else has. u/digitallyinclined (?) If not that, it may just be some arbitrary backend difference on the billing system that doesn't seem to have an end user effect.


DigitallyInclined

So, I wondered the same thing, when we discovered it changed back in May. Lol. But I believe they were attempting to make this new “AT&T Unlimited Tablet” standalone tablet plan match the “Unlimited For Tablet” add-on plan (as it was in May 2021) in these 3 ways: - SD video streaming only - QCI 9 from the start - No hotspot The reason I think this is because those who have the “AT&T Unlimited Tablet” have shared screenshots of the plan’s description on myAT&T that indicated this info. However, users have verified that this plan description is inaccurate - because they indeed do have 10 GB hotspot, and the Stream Saver toggle to then get HD+ video streaming. As for QCI 8 to 22 GB, technically I don’t actually have a verification via something like NSG (as /u/Yuhfhrh stated). What we did do though, is verify that these users get the AT&T text at 16.5 GB warning them that once they get to 22 GB, they may experience depri (just like the other plans with the 22 GB of QCI 8). Now, what becomes more interesting, is that then in Sept, they changed the “Unlimited For Tablet” add-on plan to include HD+ streaming and 15 GB hotspot. Lol. So, ultimately, it all comes down to this: AT&T probably doesn’t even know what they are doing. Haha.


Kidchico

Thank you for the taking the time collect all this data. Good job with the presentation too 👍🏼


DigitallyInclined

Thanks for the kind words! Happy to help the community.


thetrippamerguy

I don’t think that’s accurate. I use the standalone plan in an hotspot and works without problems. No data limits


DigitallyInclined

Yes, because you are probably using the “broadband” APN, which registers on AT&T’s system as regular “on-device” data. Not hotspot data, since they use a separate hotspot data APN.


thetrippamerguy

Oh ok. Yes I’m using nrbroadband as apn, as I get 5g


DigitallyInclined

Nice! What cellular router do you have? And did you sign up for the plan using a 5G tablet IMEI?


michjg

on the unlimited tablet 5G plan, if you have that one, do you actually get 5G in the hotspot or only get 5G in the tablet?


DigitallyInclined

If everything is setup right, then yes, you can get 5G in the 5G hotspot.


michjg

how does one set it up correctly?


DigitallyInclined

You have to have a 5G tablet IMEI to get the plan and to modify onto your cellular router. Here’s [more info on the plan](Https://cellularinternet.info/tabletplan) and how to use it:


jushjustice

Hotspot for me gets the same speeds my tablet gets.


michjg

did you put the sim from your tablet (original service) to hotspot. Aka you bought a 5G tablet and took that sim out.


thetrippamerguy

Sorry just saw this. Basically I just activated service using a 5g tablet imei and put the sim directly in the hotspot. Yes, I get 5g in the hotspot


Main_Acanthisitta114

What hotspot do you have? MoFi? Netgear?


thetrippamerguy

Netgear mr5100


tubezninja

Wait, so there’s a “standalone” $20 “AT&T Unlimited Tablet” plan that has 22GB of QCI8, and an add-on “Unlimited for tablet” plan that’s also $20 per month but it’s all QCI9. How does someone switch their tablet from the add-on to the standalone plan?


DigitallyInclined

Yes there is. But, the only change would be the 22GB QCI 8. It may not be worth it to switch. Not sure how much of a real-world difference you’ll experience. However, you could just cancel the add-on plan you have and then get the standalone plan.


chrisprice

It's not easy since policy is once you have the group not to give you that plan. They basically have to spawn a new subaccount plan group, and make it the only line. A rep wanting to can do it easily, but policy is you have the plan you're supposed to. The standalone is, at best, only for people with single line phones or no phones at all... and maybe if you have ten lines and can't add more devices otherwise.


vartanarsen

Qc18 us not the 5g+ I take it?


TucksShirtIntoUndies

What is Line Counts?


chrisprice

AT&T limits Unlimited group plans to ten lines to a group - regardless of device type. The standalone plans do not count towards a line limit for a postpay account group. It's a big problem if you have a family of four, each with their own phone, tablet, and smartwatch. That's twelve devices.


DigitallyInclined

This \^


DigitallyInclined

The standalone tablet plan technically isn’t "supposed" to be sold to people without a phone plan. The purpose of the standalone vs the add-on tablet plan is to allow a customer that has the max 10 lines to get another tablet plan. If a customer has 10 lines, but they want a tablet plan, the system will not allow a rep to add the add-on tablet plan. However, the rep is then supposed to use the system to add the standalone tablet plan so the customer can have another tablet line, even though they have the max 10 lines. There is nothing in the system to prevent a rep to sell this standalone tablet plan to someone who doesn’t have a phone plan. But some reps are not trained properly or they don’t care and want to make the sale.


kevink4

It is definitely cheaper for me to have the standalone plan on postpaid ($23.49/month) and the $50/month prepaid unlimited plan ($45 if buy PINs through Target when on sale) than to have a combined plan.


DigitallyInclined

Yeah, sounds like it! Good deal.


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DigitallyInclined

As long as everything is setup right, then yes.


vartanarsen

Hi guys, thios morning, i successfully switched from Unlimited for Tablets to ATT Unlimited Tablet. Confirmed i have 5 G working on ATT Unlimited Tablet on Nighthawk MR5100. When speaking to customer service, it was in my iPad Mini 6, but thewn i took out and works on the MR5100


DigitallyInclined

Oh cool! Thanks for verifying some info on the chart! By the way, did you make sure to change the M5's IMEI to a tablet IMEI?


vartanarsen

I didnt change the IMEI in MR5100. When speaking to customer service they synced up my Sim card with iPad Mini IMEI and thats how i got 5 G working. Took out the sim and put it in the MrR5100 and getting full 5G


DigitallyInclined

Yes, it will work that way, but AT&T will eventually detect this and shut it down for a TOS violation (putting the SIM in an unapproved device for the plan). [Here's more details on IMEI and cellular plans](https://cellularinternet.info/settings.html).


vartanarsen

gotchu, reading it Unfortunately, Mr5100 isnt being supported by DC, so need to look at the other options


vic_gall3gos

Awesome info. Is there anyway att can detect the m1 after ive spoofed the imei?


DigitallyInclined

No....once the APN & IMEI is setup right, then you should be all good!


vic_gall3gos

Awesome. And Apn would just need to be set to "broadband" correct?


DigitallyInclined

Correct.


RobSay

How's you switch? The idiot agent who signed me up set me up with the $75 "Unlimited for Tablet" instead of $20 "AT&T Unlimited Tablet" even after I specifically asked him for the $20 plan. Did you call in or do it in store? If you called, which number? TIA


vartanarsen

Sign into My ATT with your current plan. Then click the chat button. The chat person first tells you to go to $75 plan, you push back saying no, $20 ATT Unlimited Tablet Exists. Please put that one" Then they have no choice but to put that one since it does exist


RobSay

That was surprisingly painless compared to talking with morons over the phone. Thanks for the chat suggestion. BTW the additional monthly taxes and fees on my account are $22.42. More than doubling the price of the $20/mo intended. Is this the case for you too?


vartanarsen

I get $23.49


RobSay

$23.49 in additional to the $20/mo plan? Or $23.49 total including fees?


vartanarsen

$23.49 standalone, i dont have phone plan


theCRichardson

Sigh, aggravatingly enough I have the Unlimited for Tablet Add On. When they brought back Stream Saver and Hotspot data the hotspot feature opened up on my iPad as it should. I still to this day have no Stream Saver option to turn off though. I’ve been back and forth with AT&T about this since September and still NOBODY can get the Stream Saver option to appear for my tablet where I can turn it off and stream in HD. Crazy. Feels like false advertisement at this point for me. Blah, just venting at this point.


DigitallyInclined

Sounds frustrating! So, just to confirm, you have gone to the myAT&T website (not app), and logged into your account, followed [these instructions](https://www.att.com/support/article/wireless/KM1169198/), and when you get to the page where the SS toggle is supposed to be, the only thing you have is a Data toggle and no SS toggle?


theCRichardson

Correct. I’ve checked this way many times and still no SS option even though the plan says I’m suppose to have that option now.


DigitallyInclined

Bummers! Which phone plan do you have that this tablet plan is added on to?


theCRichardson

Unlimited Your Way I’m assuming.


DigitallyInclined

There are 3 UYW plans: * Starter * Extra * Elite Also, if you got Unlimited Starter, Extra, or Elite prior to Sept 25, 2020, then they are not UYW plans. When did you get the plan?


theCRichardson

It was after that and I’m on the Elite.


theCRichardson

I was on the original Unlimited Elite with the 100gigs of shared data and the Access for iPad 4G plan. Wish I had never messed with it, that was an awesome plan.


DigitallyInclined

That is very weird then that you only have the Data toggle, and not the SS toggle, too. So, at this point, I would just cancel the tablet line and start a new tablet line. (By the way, the Elite plan now comes with high priority data (QCI 7) and it never drops, no matter how much you use it. So, at least that works well!)


theCRichardson

Yeah I thought about trying the whole cancel thing and adding it back. Seems like someone on there end would be easily able to fix this. But I’ve spend time on my phone calls and nobody can fix it or wants too. Yeah one of the original reasons I changed to the UYW was to have the separate 100gigs per like instead of sharing 100gigs. Didn’t know they was going kill my iPad when making this change. Yeah now the unlimited data with no slow down is great and I use the heck out of my phone now. Just want to still stream on my iPad in HD like I use too. I travel a lot for work and that’s how I watch all my shows and stuff.


DigitallyInclined

Yeah, that’s lame that no one can fix it! Might be time to cancel and resign up.


RobSay

My $20/mo plan has $22.62/mo in fees (total $42.22). Is this normal? I'm in NY.


DigitallyInclined

The plan is $20/month plus taxes & fees. These vary by location, but most people report that the taxes & fees are less than $5. The average we have found is around $3.50 [(here's an example](https://cellularinternet.info/assets/files/Bill-Example.pdf)). When you first get the plan, AT&T will send something to you called the "Customer Service Summary" (CSS). More than likely it will have a bunch of charges on it that make this $20 plan look closer to $30-40/month. But the CSS is absolutely inaccurate and a waste of time - so completely ignore it and wait for your actual first bill. Be aware that the first bill usually has a prorated charge for the first few days of using the plan + the first full billing cycle month + a possible activation fee.


vartanarsen

Has anyone successfully spoofed the 5G MR5100?


DigitallyInclined

I've heard rumors that it is now possible, but I'm still waiting for more conclusive reports.


vartanarsen

can we create a thread specifically o follow up on that model?


DigitallyInclined

I don't think the r/ATT sub will allow that type of post. Lol. But, feel free to ask the mods!