By - JebGleeson
You mean Drunkinski
TBH i think Popinski just sounds better. And it kinda sound similary with Popovich or Popov which is an actual Russian surname, which make it funier i think.
Nah, but then it should be Soda Popinski
And then maybe you join a boxing association and get pummeled by a 17 year old from the Bronx
I know that the character is officially named either Soda Popinsky or Vodka drunkinsky. But i dont find drunkinsky as funny or catchy as Popinsky.
#НА МОЕ ЗДОРОВЬЕ
Jaime Maria Gazpacho de la paella
At your service
Lionel Che-Boludo del Mate Maradona, my pleasure.
María Xóchitl González del Río y Moctezuma, nice to meet you!
Juan Quijote Ponce de León.
Maria Guadalupe Hernandez
Somewhere in Africa?
Gerhard von Bierberg
Ahahaha das passt so gut einfach
Vladimir von Dracula.
Oh you’re a vampire
Ben Franklin Eagle Patriot
No no no “Ben Washington Franklin eagle guns of the patriots”
Kept you waiting huh
And his cousin Jackie Kennedy Freedom Yankee
Padma and Parvati are already my ethnicity i guess.
Technically me too but I’m less of a “Patil” which I’m assuming is Gujarati and more of a
...if you catch my drift about which region I’m from
Accio dosai! Lol
Make mine extra crispy! Lol
Roger that. Two per dosai coming up!
Patil is marathi (Maharashtrian). Patel is Gujrati.
Ahh I see! I wrongly assumed JKR just meant “Patel”
Shame on me, I was born in Jabalpur, Maharashtra and should have known that, even if it isn’t my mother-tongue region. Thanks for the explanation!
Haha yep! Good one, Goyle! (Referring to your flair, not calling you Goyle lol)
Patil is Maharashtrian! But yeah, as an Indian, we are already represented I guess. Would defs redo the Yule Ball outfits though lol
‘Patil’ is Marathi, not Gujarati. If the twins were portrayed to be Gujarati Indian, then they’d be called ‘Patel’ which is not so far form ‘Patil’. But I get the point.
SOuth india, tamil probably
Let's see I'm Mexican-German.... "Hilda don Hidalgo"
Your Patronus is a Bald Eagle carrying a shot gun
Cho is actually a name and Chang is actually a surname. Considering in the 90s anyone who wasn’t white didn’t exist in most British literature, giving harry a south East Asian girlfriend and not making a fuss of her ethnicity was actually a positive thing (imo).
https://www.reddit.com/r/harrypotter/comments/k911hf/unpopular_opinion_as_a_chinese_girl_cho_chang/ i really wanted to look into this from the perspective of someone coming from China and it seems that the fandom has extremely overblown the “stereotypical naming” problem. Also, people keep forgetting the time when those books were written wasn’t yesterday but 20 plus years ago (although, considering how things are going nowadays in the so called developed countries I wouldn’t be surprised if “worse” was done in today’s media)
And weren’t the patil twins indian?
Indian heritage, they're still British! Same for Cho Chang she was born in Scotland and her mother works for the British ministry of magic.
Wasn't she irish? I know the actress was Scottish. But i always thought that was a thing the movies tweeked. I might just have gotten that on the wrong foot. does not change the bigger point though.
The books offer little to no information on Cho's life the only two bits of information we get is the her mother works for the Ministry and that she supports the Tutshill Tornados after Ron accused her of jumping on the band wagon Cho repliedI have supported them all my life implying she lives near Tutshill (Gloucestershire, South West England) I remember that coz it's like 40min drive form Tutshill. Ron lives in Devon and supports The Chudley Canons( Chudley is in Devon).
No I think you might be right about that
Assumed to be. Yep, you can be British but have Indian heritage and an Indian name. Very common over here. Again, my Indian friend was happy to have her culture actually be represented in a book lol.
I think the UK is just better at integrating foreigners. In the US, the great grandkids of immigrants will still be referred to as ‘Italian’ or ‘Irish’ (that happens a *lot*), whereas in the UK it’s like “Okay, you were born in London, you’re British.” Obviously racism is a huge problem everywhere, but most of us are preoccupied with where an individual’s ancestors came from rather than the individual themselves.
I think that has more to do with the relative newness of the USA. European countries have hundreds or thousands of years of history, whereas most people the US don’t have lineage further than a few generations.
There are people that are bigoted about it, but for most it’s just a curiosity of familial history.
Germans definitely do the "where are you really from" game when your skin is slightly darker than average or your name sounds a bit infamiliar.
So I wouldn't say it's a European thing
yes they were
The girl named Padma Patil? Nah, pretty sure she's Lithuanian
parvati is 100% a Korean name, lol
See, now I disagree - Parvati is straight up a Texas outlaw country name. Pretty sure the twins must have had different fathers.
True. I assume the post is just a meme, but people who are offended by the Cho thing, that's kinda weird. We can't just blatantly use today's standards for something written that long ago. It's the same thing with gay Dumbledore. Back then, in 2007, revealing that a crucial character of a popular series that was intended for children was gay and not make a fuss about it was nice.
Nowadays that gays are generally accepted in the West, I would call it baiting, but back then the standards were different. Whatever one thinks of her views today, in particular about trans people, the way she casually dropped that in an answer to a kid's question was actually great for that time.
I particularly enjoyed your description of me as an obsolete dingbat.
But that nuanced and accurate narrative doesn’t provide people on the Internet with an easy vehicle for faux outrage or the ability to hold, for even an instant, the smug notion that they are more insightful and intelligent than one of the most successful women in the history of civilization.
Happy cake day!
Cho Chang is Scottish m8.
I’m talking about the books. The films do whatever the want.
Since when is she southeast asian
why are people downvoting you? China's in East asia, not south east
Wow yeah weird
Closer to south east than south (which is where India is) just look at a map 🤦🏽♀️
do you not know the difference between east and south??
plus, I never said that china's in the south??
Apologies I misread and thought you’d put south!
We don’t know she is from China she could be east or southeast’s
Is it ever stated in the books which part of Asia? I don't remember her talking about it out loud and if Harry narrated it internally he could always have been mistaken
Nope! And that’s the whole point. It’s not a big deal but she had a mixed heritage background with the two names and dark hair so it’s assumed.
Her heritage/ethnicity/whatever you wanna call it is never mentioned at all. It's just assumed from her name. Her physical description just says she is very pretty and has long smooth black hair.
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If she gave Cho a regular British name she'd get in trouble for erasing culture or something
Also people seem to forget, not everything is made in service of movies. Goblet of Fire, where Cho is introduced, came out a year before the first Harry Potter movie.
JK Rowling wanted to add some diversity to her story without making it clunky or too racially focused. The "ethnic" line she defines is between muggles and wizards, and adding race on top of that would add unnecessary complexity and end up distracting from the point.
Like how else exactly is she supposed to make this work? Is Cho supposed to give some long winded speech about how although her name is Emily Smith, she's actually Asian? Is Draco supposed to be like "yo Harry, why are you dating outside of your race"?
This is all just part of the Rowling backlash over her completely unrelated opinions.
Cho is introduced in Prisoner of Azkaban
Pansy actually comments on Angelika's dreadlocks, or something like that.
They're braids. And Angelina is described as black before that scene.
Dean Thomas is also black and had a relationship with Ginny Weasley. No biggie in the storyline which was cool.
I don’t get your point. Adding race wouldn’t add complexity if the issue is bloodline and not race. Angelica, Lee and Kingsley are all black wizards. Hell even Blaise is a Slytherin and has no issue fitting in.
Yeah my point is that in Harry Potter, race doesn't really matter. Black, white, and asian wizards and witches are all treated the same
The problem is that there's no good way to indicate Cho's race/ethnicity without turning it into a plot point. If you change Cho's name to Emily Smith, how do you let the reader know she's asian. Unlike darker skin tones, there's no good language for getting it across. Try it in your head, it sounds like you're either fetishizing or being racist. I mean JK could have gone into Cho's family history, but that would be distracting and would bring the momentum to a halt. So the only other way to get it across would be to turn her race into a plot point.
What I was saying is that doing so would be a distraction from the main point of contention: bloodlines. The pureblood supremacists are an allegorical stand in for real world race/class bias, and adding a layer of real world racism on top of that would dilute the power of the narrative.
The only way possible I see to casually bring up "Emily Smith's" race would be to manufacture a moment where people are talking about their parents or grandparents (already a bit of a touchy subject with Harry) and then Emily says something like, "Oh, when my grandma moved to Scotland from Thailand..." or wherever. But at that point, readers probably would have already had a mental image of Emily that would probably have needed to change, which I'm pretty sure is not the best literary practice. Naming her Cho makes it immediate and fast without needing to introduce her in an oddly manufactured context
Moments like that also tend to bring the narrative flow to a screeching halt. The one place I imagine it making any sense would be the quidditch world cup with her grandparents visiting from China or wherever they're from, but it would still be a distraction from the world building and establishing of Amos Diggory, Barty Crouch sr., and of course Winky, all of whom have more relevance to the the goblet of fire storyline.
Ah I see! I completely agree with you. I get people’s discomfort at a white author calling poc by cultural names that seem ‘stereotypical’ but tbh, those are actually peoples names lol I’ve read a lot of JK’s books and she always picks sensible cultural names that aren’t stereotypes. It’s only stereotypical if she made it up eg Damarcus Adeola is silly because one is patois and the other is Nigerian (I’m gonna go with Yoruba and I’m pretty sure it’s a first name)😭 JK actually does a lot of research tbh so I feel like it’s just another way for ppl to pick on her for no reason.
Yeah she put a lot of thought into her naming (both people and spells/magical lore).
I think Rowling has pushed back against the idea that men can be women and women can be men. Suddenly that makes her the go-to example of a racist, homophobic white supremacist, I guess
Or she could just take 10 minutes to actually study Asian names instead of naming her two surnames from different countries
>JK Rowling wanted to add some diversity to her story without making it clunky or too racially focused.
...so why didn't she just look up how chinese names work?
I don't know if anyone here was around in the book fandom when the movies were coming out, but there was a huge fuss when Cho Chang was cast as an Asian girl. People were swearing up and down that they "never saw her as Asian", "always pictured her as a blonde", and "well she still COULD be blonde, she might have been adopted?"
A character called _Cho Chang._
So I can imagine the erasure if she hadn't even had a stereotypical name. We think fandom is a shitshow now, but _man_.
That’s what I agree with. I don’t think it’s wrong to give them cultural names at all. But apparently Cho and Chang are surnames.
Is using surnames as given names not a thing in Asian languages? In English, surnames like Jackson, Anderson, Jones, Smith, Douglas, etc. are all fairly common given names.
Oh true but idk if that’s the same in Asia I can’t be sure on that
And one is Chinese while the other is Korean
Exactly. There’s no winning.
Godrune Thorspear, nicknamed Rune, pronounced Ru-Ne.
Yeah i like him in doctor strange
LMFAO thank you for making me laugh
Its a me a mario!
Mario La Pizza
G’day it’s Davo from bloody Wagga-Wagga and I have a magic wand that is fucking useless. Can’t summon up a bloody beer!
thinks Aussies are crazy people who are fighting crocodiles and snakes every day
Fighting massive bushfires, floods and droughts.
but honestly that joke you made was hilarious
What do you want mate? Got a slab of VB and Carlton in the cool room.
I bet your wand is shaped like a boomerang as well.
Hello im Lego Ryg
I'm white in Europe, sooooo I'm just going to assume Nationality is a factor:
Abdul the destroyer
Jose Garcia and the flying taco
Maple Beaver tabarnak
Germann Schnitzel, whose most noticable trait is the moustache in form of a square.
Cheese Weed Tulip
Weedna Gan Vogh
Bedoel je Frits Kaas van Wietulp?
"Everyone else in Gryffindor had traveled home for Christmas, except for Abraham Goldberg. He sat a few seats down from Harry and Ron in the Great Hall, looking unamused at the festive ham that had been set out for them."
Let's be honest. She'd just make me another goblin
I'm Drunky McAlcoholic
I know that there is already an Irish character but I don't care
Pepe Paella del Torrero
I am a white dude from Indiana. Obviously, it would be Bob Corn.
Jan van dam
I'm mostly English with Irish and Welch from my mothers side and Scottish and a seasoning of Italian from my fathers side.
I'm William O'Brien Aron Miller Romano!
Extra house points to the witch, wizard or muggle to correctly guess which ones are real last names in my family tree.
Ravioli T. K. Moustache
I'm Respect My Opinion Pinklawan
You're from Gallifrey?
Wibbly wobbly times wimey.
War Doctor: Timey what? Timey *wimey*?
Tenth Doctor: I've- I've *no* idea where he picks that stuff up.
America…but sorry Marvel already got that one; just missed it!
Zuzanna Zofia Kowalewicz
Patil fits the region of India my family traces their cultural and linguistic heritage to. I’m pretty sure we have some relatives with the last name Patil.
This is so funny, I've translated it, and it was something like Fazakas Imre. But it probably doesn't sound so funny in English.
Oh btw it's Hungarian
*Sigh* As a person who, according to Ancestry.com, and whose ancestry I traced. She already made it. The whole series. Even based it in another country of my ethnicity. But for names.. I’ll take do my 10th great grandfather. Daniel York.
I am Jean-François LeMonarque
Wait fuck that could actually be a french name
goddamit why are we like this
JK Rowling did so much for inclusion and diversity with the Harry Potter series, and her legacy will be just that.
Whoa there cowboy
Ooh! Quick to check that diversion from the narrative, aren’t we? Does it even matter that it’s true? Or does woke shrieking just overrule everything now?
Buongiorno y'all, I'm Guido Gesti.
Krishnamurthi the Indian charms prodigy. Bloke figures out how to harness the power of nature and finds the connection between magic and earth.
Basil whomp Australia.
The most basic female Slavic names like Masha or Natasha
And Romanoff as a surname! Wait, that’s Black Widow territory
HALLO I AM SRI RAJ PAL PATIL VERY NICING TO MEET YOU
*looks at own rapidly fading hands* ah shit