Designing my first (and hopefully last) home! Open to CC
By - SareBoGreen
A basic rectangle, while efficient to build from a cost perspective, is unlikely to create an interesting or attractive exterior.
The garage - depth is absolute minimum I'd ever consider. 24' is much better. Layout, with the two overhead doors spaced out so far, is very unusual.
Entry from the garage into the hallway - no closet or "unloading" area? What is purpose of Craft Room - why open to garage?
First floor bath - door opening outwards is unusual. Tub seems unusual for the location. Toilet next to door is unusual.
No closet in or near the foyer.
First floor seems to have limited areas for living. No clear dining room / dinette? There seems to be a fairly large amount of space for hallways / walking spaces - wasteful?
Second floor - seems like there is no master suite? Unless that's the "Guest Bed" - that bedroom is small for a master. That bath appears to be tub only? No closet for that bedroom at all? Why is office part of "Guest" area?
Other four bedrooms all share one bathroom - that's far from ideal. The "Game Room" in the middle - consider noise if some people want to sleep.
There's certainly more.
I'd recommend browsing any of the websites that offer floorplans, to get a sense of room sizes, features, and layout ideas. Also seek out general architectural design strategies.
My understanding is that the current housing situation is not a bubble; while prices have increased significantly recently, the situation is far different from what happened in 2008. I would not assume prices will fall significantly. Material costs are up from where they were a couple years ago, but lumber cash prices are already falling rapidly. Futures prices are already back to pre-covid levels. Other materials have seen increases, but nothing like what happened with lumber. I doubt we'll see substantial decreases in those prices, since the increases were not huge to begin with. Additionally, mortgage interest rates seem likely to increase in the near future - see recent moves by the fed.
I agree with most of what you said. All in all a really bad layout. Hopefully, this is OP's forever home because he'd have a very difficult time trying to sell it.
I agree with a lot of what you said except that a basic rectangle is unlikely to be interesting.
Some of the most beautiful, most iconic houses, are basic rectangles
Let the downvotes flow
Basic rectangleS (plural), is not the issue. A singular rectangle, a single mass, without a secondary mass or well-designed accents, will be boring. There are far more ugly single-rectangle structures than there are attractive ones.
So most original cape cods, most colonials, georgians etc are boring?
I guess Philip Johnson's glass house is also boring
Maybe even mies van der rohes Farnsworth house?
Find the land first. You will want to design for the site.
There aren't many stacked walls, or obvious load bearing elements. How does the framing plan for this work? I could see a little reconfiguring potentially saving a bit of money.
Definitely a weird plan,
Too many hallways on the ground floor
You don’t really need any .
And the downstairs bathroom doesn’t need a shower . Just a toilet and sink ,
No windows in the big corner room upstairs?
Any forever home needs a full bath on the main floor unless your family are all Peter Pan.
The rest of us humans, at least temporarily, need a full bath downstairs to recover from any manner of short term ills (hip/knee replacements in our future) or if any of the primary users have need of crutches/walkers/wheelchairs.
A shower is cheaper than an elevator.
I suggest getting a second opinion from an architect. There are some design choices that sound good in principle that don’t translate into very good spaces in practice. However, designing this looks like it was a lot of fun and I like some of the concepts here!
Garage doors (man door from garage) are considered exterior and need to swing inward.
Garage depth is very small unless you’re driving 2 mini coopers. Why not pull garage doors together and leave room for storage/work bench area on side?
No where to eat that’s near the kitchen I.e. breakfast table or dining room. If not these then the bar needs to be much larger.
No bedrooms in ground floor, why not shrink bath from full to half and put that area toward a breakfast nook?
All bedrooms being off the game room means that whoever wants to stay up, keeps everyone else up.
To each their own, but I’d probably go to houseplans.com just start looking and getting ideas.
It’s terrible but I am sure it was fun to do. Don’t feel bad, you’ve illustrated perfectly why there are professionals that spend years learning to design homes for a living.
Conventional wisdom about natural light and dark hallways / windowless common rooms became 80% obsolete when we created cheap long-lasting adjustable color LED bulbs that have 6-10x better luminous efficiency. Making a cave comfortable on artificial light takes effort, but it isn't impossible or even that expensive.
With that said: This is going to be a lot more marketable if there is *some* kind of natural light to those central rooms.
Likewise: delineating a traditional master bedroom is likely to confuse fewer buyers, whether for you or for your grandkids.
Currently located in Kansas city, Kansas and looking into northern property on the MO side. Ill be waiting until this insane housing and materials bubble pops to purchase land, then use it as collateral for a building loan turned mortgage.
The upper image is the ground floor, lower image is the 2nd floor.
If you can get a mortgage now, it will have a lower interest rate than you'll see later (and historically low compared to what almost everyone else has got for decades.)
Will be more resellable if there is a distinct master bedroom with en-suite, but my preference is to move into the house you mean to retire in. For your own sake I recommend doing that anyway.
Your household will be happier with more bathrooms. I'd do at least an en-suite and one more upstairs.
Consider a detached garage. Your family room is all walled off. It should have some access to a back yard.
There's a pantry, but no dining area. Turn the green room into a pantry and build a Jalousie porch between the family room and the back yard, then put as many plants as you want there. Where the current pantry is located can be a dining area. Put a low wall (possibly with cabinets) to divide that from the entryway to carve that out as its own distinct space.
Overall it's a good first try, but I'd take this to an architect with a list of uses (residence for family, entertaining friends, holiday dinners for up to X people, home office, place to retire eventually, place to exercise and meditate, etc.) They spend years learning how to do this really well, and you have to get one to draw up the construction documents anyway.
Wait until you have a plot and a mortgage lined up, as having them design it years before it's built means you'd be behind on codes, and they will need to have a survey and soils report before they can figure out the foundation and framing.
Oh yeah... You don't have the plot yet, which means you don't know the size. If you get one that's any wider than you envision, the house design will gain LOTS of options.
I am new to this process as well so I don’t have any direct crit on the layout, but is there anything stopping you from just grabbing a plan from an online service? Not all of them are great, but most have already taken into account many of the suggestions listed here in the comments. Just a thought! Good luck!
How tied are you to the 40x60 exterior dimensions?
have a plan for dealing with the extra humidity in the green room or it will destroy your house
I don't think you have enough bedrooms lol
No master bedroom? Seems like an odd plan
The playroom is very dark. I can admit the existence of such a house, but how can I imagine that it is a hefty box. Just a box of holes.
Bad layout, bad architecture.
Fuck everyone here for telling you it is terrible and not providing advice. This is a hard thing to do, even harder to post online for criticism.
Definitely some strange areas which could use some retooling.
- I totally get the craft room, awesome!
- no master suite, to me, is strange.
- living room looks cramped given the furniture shown
- invest in quiet garage door openers and spray foam to isolate. Consider a detached garage with craft room loft.
- I would personally not like the beds opening into the game room, but I can see what you’re going for, if you have a family with close kids.
-Consider an L shaped stair and moving it to block the green room (moving the door to the hall). Would give you a lot more room to work with downstairs.
-Make sure to consider the exterior elevation and design.
Try some new layouts, pick and pull pieces from other designs until you get closer. You’ll get there.
This is bad... I just don't have the time to point out everything, but just look at the living room, no windows, next too a garage and with a toilet opening right into it... Please hire an architect and if you want to be involved please let him/her know what are your ideas, motivations, inspirations. Leave the planing to a proffesional and maybe play some sims etc. if You enjoy making floorplans... :)
What is the purpose of the upper floor corner room? I can't quite read it. Boy room? Bay room? Big room?
I love the big flowers in most of the rooms. Nice touch!
On a serious note: Are those ceiling fans that are drawn in? Not used to seeing those on a layout plan.
Not the typical plan you see on Reddit, but I think it has great potential. I like that it doesn’t have all the exterior walls stepping in or out for no reason. That being said , your Livingroom is asking that you put a big expressive window or French doors at the back. Is it possible to have a detached garage or jog the garage one way or the other or even move it to the kitchen end of the house.? You don’t really need a hall back there.
A square or rectangle is fine, interest can be added with contrasting cladding, shade structures, landscaping, etc.
Design for where you live. What is the lot shape, slope, views, what direction is the road from the house, what’s your climate, privacy concerns?
Group your plumbing, it will save you money and pain during your build and you’ll have hot water in seconds at any tap forever (see Gary Klein.) You have better efficiency too if your area suffers a drought in 60 years.
Face your living areas on the Equator side of the house. Most of your large windows will enjoy lots of free daylighting year round and some free heat in the winter. That plant room might enjoy some sun too.
Place your storage and mechanicals on the polar side of home. They don’t need (any or big) windows and polar windows are a loss leader for heat.
Think about your roof now. Multi angled are not only expensive to build, every V is a place for water intrusion and collects debris. Snow loads and wind might specify a best or better shape too. Plan the shape for where you need and want overhangs. (Need overhangs to shade those equator windows so you don’t overheat in the summer.) A covered outside space is nice on the East or West for sunrise or sunset. An equator facing roof is a good place for that future solar PV. A simple shape also means easy gutters and water catchment if desired.
A ground floor bedroom and full bath allows for aging in place. Ditto wider doors and wider straight hallway.
Layer in storage where you need it and what you actually use. Flexible space is good but multi use areas and rooms should be the goal, less to clean/heat/air condition.
Stack some walls to carry structural load and for easier mechanical runs (cheaper to build and maintain.)
Look Into better built walls to increase your structure’s longevity and interior air quality: Passive house, Pretty Good House, LEED, etc.
Word to the wise, build a sellable house. Try not to leave you or your heirs a difficult home to sell or modernize.
What is a foster room?
Do you need a game room and a play room? Perhaps one of those spaces could be incorporated into a master with ensuite.