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SeattleChat Daily Thread - Tuesday, October 26, 2021

SeattleChat Daily Thread - Tuesday, October 26, 2021

SovietJugernaut

Another for your redfin archive of horrors, /u/maadison: https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/9623-24th-Ave-SW-98106/home/180580


R_V_Z

Uh oh, I shouldn't have finished off that Laphroaig, this gave me the giggles. Aside: I think I've gone smoke-blind.


maadison

Wow! Dolphins! Mancave! DIY! You should definitely submit that to ZillowGoneWild!


Enchelion

>Mancave More literally than usual too.


gmfunk

[Some more evening chill](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTA_FexW3qU)


AthkoreLost

Does anyone know who to call if I find a mentally and physically handicapped person who appears to have been accidentally stranded at a bus stop? I tried telling them which bus stop they need to move to (the one they're at is closed right now but the bus line is still running 3 blocks away) but they don't seem to understand what I'm trying to tell them and keep responding that they live in the direction the bus would normally go. I asked if I could call anyone for them and they said no. I alerted King county metro who said they'll send someone out but don't have an eta (I'm hoping they could help get him to his normal bus). I'm gonna take an umbrella out if starts raining but I'm unsure if I've alerted the right people. He's been out there for at least an hour and a half and it's now dark. I'm real worried about him. Is there someone else like APS I should be calling or if transits not there in 30 minutes is it straight to 911? Edit: I went and sat in my car and a transit supervisor showed up, left and then 10 minutes later an out of service bus showed up and got him so he's at least somewhere warm and hopefully on his way home. No idea how no one else had noticed him missing or sitting there at a closed stop for at least 2 hours.


robokitteh

You’re good people.


Thanlis

https://www.crisisconnections.org/24-hour-crisis-line/ can loop in the DESC Mobile Crisis team. I don’t know if this is in scope for them but it might be and it’s worth trying.


AthkoreLost

Thank you, an out of service metro bus did show up within 30 minutes and let him on, so thankfully I don't have to call anyone else.


Thanlis

You’re a good person. Thank you.


maadison

Oh, that's good. Well done!


AthkoreLost

Thanks. It was really relieving to see the bus show up.


golf1052

What are all the places in Seattle you can get a somewhat decent view of the Seattle downtown skyline? Off the top of my head it would be: Gas Works Park Kerry Park Eastern Alki Beach Jose Rizal Bridge Volunteer Park Water Tower It might be fun to try and bike to all of them in a day and take a picture from their viewpoint.


blindrage

Bhy Kracke Park has a nice view


OnlineMemeArmy

Ursula Judkins Viewpoint Lighthouse at Discovery Park


Craftsmaniac

Admiral Viewpoint The super-sneaky spot? [Jack Block Park](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Viewing_Seattle_skyline_from_Jack_Block_Park.jpg/1599px-Viewing_Seattle_skyline_from_Jack_Block_Park.jpg).


clamdever

Maple Leaf Park up north has a beautiful view (and an even better one of Rainier).


maadison

I wouldn't really describe the view from the Volunteer Park Water Tower as "good". Melrose Ave has a view, though.


maadison

There's a FedEx shipment on its way with a delivery promise of today. This morning it was still in the Bay Area and I laughed. I also cursed, because the seller updated the ETA to Saturday, which is after I need it. Now it's in Roseburg, OR, more than halfway here. Very curious what happens next...


AthkoreLost

They do what they did with my last FedEx package and keep putting it on a truck, taking it to the delivery site, then for no reason returning it to the shipping center day after day for two weeks. Then one day it'll be marked delivered, but it won't have been, so they'll duplicate the tracking number and repeat step 1 a few more times before finally unloading it and never telling you it was delivered so you almost miss the 5 day pickup window.


maadison

Yeah, I remember that. That would be maddening. I just got a different delivery from Fedex. It was clearly not this box I was talking about above, but I've got a bunch of things on order so I just opened the box right away. Had some Ikea stuff in it. Wuh? Looked at the shipping label. Misdelivered. Managed to catch the delivery guy outside to hand it back to him. Then later I realized... oh, he probably can't redeliver it once it's open, so my neighbor down the street would have been better off if I had walked it over. Shoot.


AthkoreLost

Oh this was a new incident, I've decided not to bother ordering anything online until the construction is done because that's what keeps triggering these issues. That sucks about your neighbors package, but good on you for at least trying to make sure it got delivered correctly!


Enchelion

And they'll still be better than DHL...


AthkoreLost

And re-prioritized from former 3rd reprioritization again. ;_; I just want to finish it so I can be fucking done. We wanted to launch it next week and it won't even be half way done at this point. I just want to crawl under my desk and hibernate.


Enchelion

Anyone here have experience with T-Mobile's 5g home internet service?


AthkoreLost

Just realized why my house is so f'ing cold. Didn't realize the thermostat was without power for so long the clock reset and it was running my night time settings.


maadison

It may have a button battery under the outer cover that's dead?


AthkoreLost

That's what I was thinking, probably worth checking this weekend.


my_lucid_nightmare

[The original iPod archetype is 20 years old](https://panic.com/blog/a-prototype-original-ipod/) But by then there were already [better players](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_500) on the market


TransientSignal

The [iriver H10](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iriver_H10_series) was my first mp3 player - Still remember nagging my dad to let me place one of those new fanged online orders with his credit card since I couldn't find it in stores lol I was still using it off and on up till about a year or two ago when its hard drive crashed.


CharlesTransFan

I miss my walkman


R_V_Z

I miss my Classic.


Enchelion

I remember the Rio Karma being pretty popular in my High School at the time. My first MP3 player was a Sansa m200 that I abused the *hell* out of and it just kept trucking for years.


Craftsmaniac

Had Creative Zen Nomad. Loved that thing. Solid brick.


robokitteh

I have three months of Apple TV for free. What should I binge on?


smelldog

TED LASSO. SO WHOLESOME.


Craftsmaniac

There's a Beastie Boys Doc. One off, no binge required.


ThanksForAllTheCats

Definitely Ted Lasso, and Mythic Quest is kind of like Silicone Valley. Foundation is good if you like science fiction.


AthkoreLost

Ted Lasso is good from what I've seen of it on youtube. Also Mythic Quest is supposed to be really good.


softwareseattle

I've heard good things about Ted Lasso.


R_V_Z

Check out the Jon Stewart show and report back maybe? That's literally the only thing I've heard about being on AppleTV.


R_V_Z

Thank Shai Hulud, [Part 2 is going to happen](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dune-2-greenlit-movie-release-date-1235036655/).


PNWQuakesFan

For those of you who want to go to a Kraken game but don't want to pay the obscene prices being asked at the box office (and slightly less obscene on resale), its looking likewaiting til the day of the game is the move. Tonight's game against Montreal is now 80 dollars (plus fees) to get in, down from over 120 last week. Same goes for Thursday v. Minnesota. And not that people didn't already know this, but "dynamic pricing" is bullshit. For Sundays Rangers game, there are box office tickets (not resale) going for 250-300, and resale tickets immediately next to those going for half that. edit: Tickets for tonight... row 1 on the glass behind the net are goign for 150 before fees. This is an absolute bloodbath for season ticket holders.


OnlineMemeArmy

Glad to hear [Dune Pt. 2](https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/26/22739098/dune-part-two-denis-villeneuve-timothee-chalamet-paul-atreides-spice-sandworm) got the go ahead....just have to wait two years until we can see it.


mixreality

I hate when other people try to make their problems yours. I've done freelancing on the side for a long time and every now and then you get people that just aren't worth working with. I have a hard time telling people no, this time I actually did say no and some people can't take a hint. Keep trying to dump it in my lap and I don't want it. I've ignored their calls and emails since saying no, a week ago, and they call me multiple times a day. Worse than bill collectors lol


ThanksForAllTheCats

I freelance too and I know just what you mean. These last couple of years have taught me the value of a hard “no.”


my_lucid_nightmare

I had a client SME get into it with a client PM on a call today, and I pretty much told them to fuck off and come back when they're ready to do the project. The fact they're pushing back on stuff we have done routinely for years isn't a good sign, but it's not my problem to fix. Not my rodeo, not my clown car.


spit-evil-olive-tips

[Crypto investors are bidding to touch a 1,784-pound tungsten cube once a year](https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7njgd/crypto-investors-are-bidding-to-touch-a-1784-pound-tungsten-cube-once-a-year) fuck just use Bitcoin to buy drugs like normal people


BasicRadish69

God.. don't remind me how much bitcoin I spent on weed back when I was in the south.. Could buy a few cars with it now, but at least I got stoned!


TransientSignal

Huh, I bought a 2" tungsten cube from an estate sale for a few bucks a while back - TIL where it most likely came from!


spit-evil-olive-tips

you definitely got a deal, the 2" cubes are [$400 new](https://midwesttungsten.com/tungsten-cube/) I bought a 1" cube from them a few months ago because fuck it I don't have kids, I can piss away $100 on a paperweight / stupid thing to fidget with during zoom meetings if I want


TransientSignal

Oh wow didn't realize just how much they sell for, definitely a good deal!


cdsixed

YOUR INSOLENCE TOWARDS THE CUBE SHALL NOT BE FORGOTTEN THE CUBE SEES ALL THE CUBE WILL HAVE ITS VENGEANCE


spit-evil-olive-tips

the cube is in suburban fucking Chicago and the whole reason they're doing this NFT bullshit is they can manufacture it but shipping it would be goddamn impossible. picture a flatbed truck with this 14 inch cube on it that weighs 1800 goddamn pounds. you'd need a crane to unload it. you'd have to reinforce the floor of the room you wanted to display it in, and build some extra strong display stand or whatever. so if the cube wants me it can come and get me


AthkoreLost

Honestly, kind of surprised it took this long for scammers and grifters to realize the potential of block chain to find victims and make bank. Usually it's just cults and conspiracy theorists who prey on peoples desire to be "in on something the majority isn't aware of". I guess the turn around on a new generation of victims is about 20 years given this should've been a lesson most people learned in the 90's with Beanie Babies.


Craftsmaniac

The Ultimate MLM.


AthkoreLost

Had a door knocker come by on Sunday to talk about the election. Had a pretty nice conversation with them (my power was out so I was chattier than normal). Probably a bad sign they're pushing candidates for Mayor and the council positions but said nothing about the city attorney race. Either way my ballot is filled out and goes to a drop box tonight.


clamdever

> Probably a bad sign they're pushing candidates for Mayor and the council positions but said nothing about the city attorney race. You've written that so nicely it could be either of the two camps 🤣


AthkoreLost

Lol, yeah. Mostly just wanted to avoid inviting political commentary today. I'm a little burned out in a thousand different directions right now.


Enchelion

>Mostly just wanted to avoid inviting political commentary today. https://i.giphy.com/media/kiLq8SSDcewve/200.webp


clamdever

> The judge in Kyle Rittenhouse's trial says lawyers cannot call the 2 people he killed "victims." > Rittenhouse killed 2 people and wounded another with an AR-15 style weapon. The judge says "victim" is too "loaded" but will let lawyers call them "rioters, looters or arsonists." What in the actual fuck.


spit-evil-olive-tips

some other rulings from this shitbag, from https://twitter.com/Will_Bunch/status/1453156024563679235 1987: [A Kenosha County judge who is requiring AIDS tests for convicted prostitutes says he hopes his unusual orders will be challenged by civil libertarians, ''and I hope they lose.''](https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1987-02-07-8701100345-story.html) 2006: [The reputation of one Kenosha County circuit judge is apparently so daunting that hundreds of defendants request a different judge, creating imbalances in the workloads of different felony courts.](https://madison.com/news/local/hundreds-ask-to-avoid-court-of-kenosha-judge/article_4d0c5b84-f94d-534f-b58b-d491b4650e4c.html#tncms-source=login) 2021: [Appeals court overturns public shaming sentence of Kenosha County judge in local retail theft case](https://www.kenoshanews.com/news/local/appeals-court-overturns-public-shaming-sentence-of-kenosha-county-judge-in-local-retail-theft-case/article_319956df-ffd3-5f16-995c-21e8178a8d2c.html) > As part of the conditions of that supervision, Schroeder ordered that Brown stay away from the Pleasant Prairie mall, and ordered that at any store she entered while she was on supervision she “notify management at the service desk that she is on supervision for retail theft.” > In requiring that notification, Schroeder told Brown that condition “is “going to embarrass you, of course” and continued that while the courts no longer put people in stocks “to be embarrassed and humiliated .. (the court feels) that embarrassment does have a valuable place in deterring criminality.” Schroeder upheld the condition when asked to reconsider in a post-conviction motion.


Craftsmaniac

Looks like setting the table for there to be [another victim](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTK3FCeC-lbdx__-LC-F3I7hOq9UTtAybl1Yg&usqp=CAU).


spit-evil-olive-tips

also: [A Florida Anarchist Will Spend Years in Prison for Online Posts Prompted by Jan. 6 Riot](https://theintercept.com/2021/10/16/daniel-baker-anarchist-capitol-riot/) > During his sentencing hearing on Tuesday, Baker’s attorney highlighted the case of a Georgia man who drove to Washington, D.C., with guns and ammunition and sent private texts threatening to shoot Rep. Nancy Pelosi in the head. The Trump acolyte had missed the storming of the Capitol by one day due to car trouble. Like Baker, he was charged with the interstate communication of threats. Unlike Baker, he had a history of hideous, racist online speech, and direct threats. And unlike Baker, he could leave prison soon: He will be sentenced in December and faces between six months to two years in prison 4 years for a left-winger who did nothing but post threats online, 6 months to 2 years for a right-winger who posted threats online *and took actions towards carrying them out* this sums it up well, I think: [Moments like these, I hope, help demonstrate what we mean when we say “criminality” and “crime” are political constructs meant to preserve white supremacist ruling class power. This is not a system that can deliver real justice.](https://twitter.com/micahinATL/status/1453057609712406528) and along the same lines with the city attorney race, we've got the "tough on crime" people who want to lock a parent in jail for shoplifting diapers, but don't care about "setting an example" by throwing the book at businesses that commit wage theft. the "justice" system is not an unbiased, neutral actor. power structures act to maintain their own power.


my_lucid_nightmare

Wouldn't want to humanize the unarmed BLM protesters that he murdered in cold blood, would we. That might jeopardize the chances of a white boy in rural midwest America from being acquitted for murdering people of color.


renownbrewer

Not everyone who suffers a violent death is pure and innocent...


my_lucid_nightmare

oof, rough take. I mean, do you have intel that the protesters that Rittenhouse murdered "deserved it?"


spit-evil-olive-tips

that's a good one, next ask how much the rape victim had to drink, what she was wearing, whether she possibly made flirty eyes with her rapist...


AthkoreLost

TBF the lawyers wanted to be able to use those terms because they're trying to make a self defense argument for their little domestic terrorist client and being able to use terms that inherently state the victims were there in a criminal capacity helps their case. Which is why the judge said the terms would be allowed **if** they could provide evidence the victims had engaged in the corresponding crimes. Even then, to your point, that have to link evidence of past crime to their baby faced terrorist's claims of acting in self defense.


R_V_Z

Victim doesn't mean pure and innocent. It just means the person that harm was done upon. Hitler was the victim of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.


maadison

Does "victim" imply "pure and innocent"? Is there a better, more neutral word since we don't really use "shootee"?


my_lucid_nightmare

Person experiencing abrupt lead poisoning. /s


spit-evil-olive-tips

"individual involved in a bullet-involved shooting"


AthkoreLost

I went looking and of the examples of self defense laws I saw most still refer to the person who is being defended against as the victim. They may also refer to the person acting in self defense as a "potential victim". The judges argument for not allowing the term "victim" seems incredibly suspect given he also won't allow "alleged victim" either despite both being perfectly apt "neutral" phrasing here.


AthkoreLost

One thing to note on the terms the judge 'approved', the article I read said that if the lawyers want to use those terms, "rioters, looters or arsonists", they will need to first *provide evidence* of those claims. Which would be necessary because otherwise the lawyers open themselves up to slander lawsuits by families of the victims.


golf1052

[Kim Wyman has accepted the federal election security role](https://twitter.com/Jim_Brunner/status/1453045888444551171). Congratulations to Democrats for now holding all statewide positions in Washington, Oregon, and California


clamdever

Fucking [satire](https://twitter.com/MinusPeach/status/1452841590032982018?t=g9DXA-L3uslYGKAGyR5Ihg&s=19) got me excited this morning >!BREAKING: Ann Davison confirms she is dropping out of the Seattle City Attorney race to focus on her 2022 campaign for Secretary of State.!<


my_lucid_nightmare

Is it really satire if it needs explanations and disclaimers though.


golf1052

Truth has been stranger than fiction for the last couple of years so I wouldn't be surprised if a Davison loss turns into her trying to run for the position even if she said she would stop running for stuff after this election.


clamdever

>if she said she would stop running for stuff after this election. [She really said that? ](https://giphy.com/gifs/mrw-sidebar-6JB4v4xPTAQFi)


golf1052

I believe she said that in an interview, I would need to dig a bunch to find it though.


clamdever

No need dude I can totally see her saying something like that. I meant I don't believe her. I can picture her salivating at the prospect of an open state wide seat.


golf1052

Yeah that's true of basically all politicians. Another example is Harrell retiring in 2019, leaving office in the beginning of 2020 and now is running for mayor.


clamdever

Yeah, I still maintain that the chamber went into their reserve storage cabinet and dug out the only pro business person they could find who hadn't absolutely antagonized the city. Dusted him off and dumped their wealth into his campaign. Then they begged Durkan to not endorse him and sat back and are hoping for the best.


my_lucid_nightmare

Giving Biden some of the same plot armor she gave Washington State Democrats - the argument "the election must be legitimate, a Republican helped certify it." Biden's playing chess here.


spit-evil-olive-tips

chess? lol. if Biden actually thinks having Wyman instead of a Democrat be in charge of election security will make the slightest bit of difference, that meets the diagnostic criteria for dementia Jan 6th 2021 was a practice run for Jan 6th 2025. (and that's assuming Trump doesn't win outright over Biden or Harris, which is entirely possible given that we'll have had 4 years of Democratic control and absolutely fuck-all in terms of meaningful progress to show for it) we've already seen how they ousted people like Liz Cheney for deviating from the QAnon party line. why the hell would Wyman get any better treatment?


softwareseattle

Honestly, I hadn't thought of that. If she is the top election security official and says, when Biden wins in 2024, that she can't guarantee the win is fair well then we still have the fair and balanced supreme court to save us, right? Right?!


my_lucid_nightmare

> that meets the diagnostic criteria for dementia Well, the plan worked for Washington State Democrats for years, Sam Reed and then Kim Wyman. I'm not a doctor, so I'll leave comments about Biden's dementia to those who actually are qualified, like ultra-left-wing commenters. /s >Trump doesn't win outright Always a risk. Even more of a risk someone younger and less insane, but with similar dictatorial power, comes along to replace him. >absolutely fuck-all The problem here is we *have* had quite a lot of success, but it's never enough for part of the electorate, and it's too much for another part of the electorate. The right wing Trumpers benefit from having only angry reactionism as their entire platform. Fuck Those Guys That Think They're Better Than Us. That's their entire platform. We don't get the same rules to play by, we never have. And if that weren't enough, the playing field is tilted significantly in their favor ... Just as the Electoral College intended. >Wyman Would get better treatment than almost any hard-D they put in the same role. I think that was the plan here. From the pundit-class, from those big city / suburban people on whom the election turns. We already know we'll never win the hard-Trump rurals. They're lost causes, always have been.


maadison

That used to work, but these days Republicans instantly turn on anyone who doesn't fall in line and produced what they want. If you're not with Trump, you're a RINO. Ask that Sec of State in Georgia...


clamdever

At this point she might be the only Republican to believe in the 2020 election.


AthkoreLost

There's a couple others mostly like Wyman who held positions related to the election in other states but they've also faced serious harassment over it. I kind of hope that her moving into a federal position might mean there's a chance that some of the national reforms that have been discussed include a push for 50-state mail in voting.


clamdever

>push for 50-state mail in voting. That would be...[sublime](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/f3d499f1-0895-4ba1-96f6-a6a30ba16167)


AthkoreLost

I swear I must suffer from a witches curse or something. The earlier I go to bed and get up the less productive I seem to be at work.


AthkoreLost

. . . and I just misjudged how heavy my coffee cup was and spilled half of it on myself. And my boss didn't release the hotfix last night.


maadison

Well, don't hotfix yourself with coffee instead! Sheesh!


AthkoreLost

It's at least cold brew so no burns, just chillier than normal.


OnlineMemeArmy

[You’re my remedy to yesterday. Now my struggle seems so far away and life will never be the same](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv_cwzAIOHs)


R_V_Z

Today in my monthly ethics email from management: * CIA Agent on Building Trust: A fascinating article – learn how a CIA spy connects with others to build trust. Umm...


allthisgoldforyou

War is what happens when business meets obstacles it can't circumvent or co-opt. Spycraft is just a useful tool.


runk_dasshole

I keep the things you taught trapped in mind I know you cared, even though you weren't here half the time But who am I to blame I'd probly do the same in your shoes I never held that against you, complained, or assumed You never went through what I'm living Hell who am I kidding? [Depression is practically part of family tradition](https://youtu.be/dj1oVX_ymEU)


jms984

[John J. Audubon, his gifted replication painted with precision, perfect vision like the shot stain, and the whole world swam in deaf anticipation til the goose fell like a shed shell from which the humming secret sprang.](https://youtu.be/lBwAG4yIU7Q)


fiestapinguino

This has a "Little Green Cars" feel. +1 for the birding references!


jms984

Hadn’t heard their stuff, but I definitely get the comparison now. Thanks for mentioning them!