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St Louis Council Regular Meeting - August 10, 2021

St Louis Council Regular Meeting - August 10, 2021

Mikazukinoyaiba

So I stuck around a bit longer to hear the Council speak, Trakas is a fucking snake. Also what's Councilwoman Days deal w/ rejecting Councilwoman Clancy's request for a Roll Call so we could clearly see who voted for/against the Mask Ordinance?


funkadeliczipper

Councilwoman Days is a coward and doesn’t want her vote on the record.


Mikazukinoyaiba

18:00 - Woman, who I think claimed she is a Physician, makes the claim that the COVID-19 virus is too small to be filtered by masks, also that the Sars-CoV-2 has never been isolated, and spouts various conspiracies about Bill Gates, Fauci, etc. She further claims that the vaccine causes vaccine-mediated enhancement and that what she is claiming is "basic science". Personally I doubt this woman is actually a Physician or maybe she has a DO or something. [Searching by last name](https://gatewayschiropractic.com/about-us) I think she is a chiropractor, [a field well-known to be filled with snake salesman and 'natural healers](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/14/health/anti-covid-vaxxers.html)'. **She is not a medical doctor**. Found an NPR article where she was asked about the subject of vaccinations [here](https://news.stlpublicradio.org/health-science-environment/2015-02-06/vaccines-outbreaks-and-personal-choice-measles-by-the-numbers). 23:00 - Some other woman stating the usual "masks don't work" and the mRNA vaccines being non-FDA fully approved and long-term side effects. 31:00 - Woman, begins with statement that she has lost her job. I assume this is related to the shutdowns and subsequent lay-offs. Pushing the 'racial discrimination' aspect for requiring proof of vaccination. Note that she is a white woman. *I've gotten distracted and missed 20 minutes* 50:00 - Woman, not sure what she is going on about too be honest. Talking about Reagan, Pearl Harbor, etc. Talks about inspiration and love a lot. 53:00 - Husband of the last speaker, jokes about how often he bangs his wife and why he has 5 kids, very classy guy. Talks a lot about the negative effects on masks at school. His stance is against kids wearing masks all day in school for the usual reasons. 56:00 - Woman, she is starting with a childrens story about fish in a bowl. She demands the Council provides proof that the Sars-CoV-2 virus exists and has been isolated, that there is anyone in the hospital sicks with COVID-19. Claims people were dying from the flu and not from COVID-19. Claims the PCR tests are fraudulent and are meant to 'mimic' and not detect, claims that the FDA rejected a PCR test and thus purports this as proof that the sars-CoV-2 virus doesn't exist. 59:00 - Man, beings talking about Pearl Harbor. Talks about patriotism and rights, how he and others will rebel against the Council and refuse to comply. 1:02:00 - Woman, begins with her husband being born with a heart-issue. Mentions her son also has a similar heart-issue and autism, blames the MMR vaccine for her son being autistic. States that holistic medicine would be just as effective as antibiotics and other pharmaceuticals. Claims that a vaccine-mandate would kill her son (clearly she is ignoring how there are medical exemptions). Advocates for educating people about the immune system and response... yet also thinks the MMR vaccine gave her kid autism? She is just repeating the usual anti-vaccine rheotoric and Big Pharma conspiracies. Thinks pro-biotics and chiropractics will treat any disease. 1:06:00 - Woman, BS Environmental Development w/ Child Development. Talks about masks hindering social development of children. Nazi Germany comparison. Mentions survey about children suicide attempts, do not know how legitimate her statistics are however. 1:10:00 - Woman, mentions some disciplinary issue involving children 3-4 years of age not properly wearing masks. Calls masks "germ carrying muzzles" and claims they hinder oxygen intake. Mentions Obama's birthday party, which I don't see is relevant since the County council has no authority on something like that.... 1:12:00 - Daughter of the aforementioned woman, 13 years of age. I'll be honest, not interested in a 13 yr olds opinion. Rails against masks and alludes to vaccines causing people to be sick. Sounds like any angsty teen to me tbh. 1:14:00 - Woman, some disruption in the beginning. More personal attacks against Councilman Lisa Clancy and her proposed ordinance. Talking about marxism and abortion of Black babies (will note the speaker is White). Speaks against a mandate to have all County employees vaccinated or be fired. 1:18:00 - Woman, admits she isn't a doctor or scholar but insists common sense supports that masks are ineffective against viruses. Claims masks and vaccines are not about 'common good' and alludes to tyrants using the idea of a "common good". WE WILL NOT COMPLY. 1:20:00 - Woman, starts w/ a jab at the council members that are participating remotely. Claims that the masks are causing anxiety among the children and that is the real problem and why a mask mandate would just traumatize the children. 1:23:00 - Man, claims that there is no virus. That there is no single scientific paper that shows the virus exists (clearly this man didn't search very hard as there are plenty). Mentions falsification of death certificates and how the wide variety of symptoms discovered are a part of the 'scam' of COVID-19. Claims the photo of the sars-CoV-2 virus are just computer generated. Mentions false claims about hospitals being reimbursed for COVID-19 cases as proof there is a financial incentive to fake deaths. Guy is staring to just ramble and his time has run out. 1:26:00 - Male, claims he has 3 college degrees. Claims there are more important issues to be addressed than the COVID-19 pandemic. Accuses the council are just grandstanding and has issue it seems with the polarizing rhetoric that is currently going on these days between political parties. Advocating for civility in politics it seems and wants people to continue to be as active n government as they are today due to the mask mandate issue. Also appealing for public servants to not belittle their constituents 1:29:00 - Woman, starts rambling for awhile. Her opposition is to her children wearing masks and social distancing. Mentions her children are being bullied in school because of they have not been vaccinated and is concerned about the segregation and division that is happening among children due to covid-19 mitigation efforts. Claims masks do not work. Mentions "covid-mouth" as a serious dental issue (first time I've heard of it ). 1:32:00 - Woman, begins with personal attack at Councilman Clancy. Mentions Clancy's pro-choice stance on abortion. Using the "my body, my choice" slogan to advocate against Mask Mandates and Vaccine Mandates. *"Freedom doesn't stop where your fear for your children starts"*. Mentions that if Clancy is concerned about her children's health she should advocate outlawing cigarettes and alcohol. Ignoring of course the transmissibility of infectious disease and that w/ smoking we at least have indoor smoking bans. Also tosses in some xenophobia by mentioning China creating masks. 1:35:00 - Woman, she contacted the AG of Missouri regarding the Mask Mandate. Schmidt gave her his usual pandering spiel. Reading Schmidt's interpretation of how it is illegal for employers and universities to require vaccinations. Also his interpretation about Mask Mandates being illegal by Federal Law. 1:38:00 - Woman, talks about opening some Sunshine Law and accusing someone of lying. Calls for not voting in the Mask Ordinance. 1:40:00 - Woman, appeals to the futility of ever getting rid of the sars-cov-2 or any other disease (someone should give her a heads-up about smallpox and polio). Mentions how data constantly changes and understands why rules "change" but is clearly arguing against the mask mandate. 1:44:00 - Man, starts with the Declaration of Independence. (Just great... one of those patriots again.) Rambles a bit more about stuff and mentions love. Doesn't want his kids to have to wear masks and claims they will breath in their own CO2 if they do, ends with a Rock Song quote *"We're not gonna take it anymore!"*. 1:47:00 - Woman, is directly addressing Councilman Clancy. Advocates for doing your own research it seems and alludes that those who are being "paid to conduct research" can't be trusted. 1:51:00 - Man, alludes that it is hypocritical to not slap cigarettes and fast food from people while pushing a Mask Mandate. Guy claims to be a physical therapist and mentions how he visits people's homes as part of his job (I hope he is vaccinated or wears a mask). Makes a joke about Biden flubbing up the number of Americans that are vaccinated. 1:53:00 - Woman, begins with some Bible Verse. Makes a speech about encroaching loss of privilege's using the phrase "It's just a \_\_\_\_\_" and alluding that despite any restrictions the Council would not overcome her faith and she will not be complying. 1:56:00 - Man, rambling about masks harming communication and social development of children. 1:59:00 - Woman, she is doing a personal attack against Councilman Clancy for staying home over Zoom to care for her child. (Frankly, I think she is crossing her boundaries by trying to dictate to Clancy how she should take care of breastfeeding her child or who to let care for them.) Is talking about ferrets dying from some study in Osaka and claims no one that is on Zoom is actually paying attention (could be true, hard to tell but I know even in-person people can zone-out). 2:03:00 - Woman, makes a strange direct attack at Council Dunaway. Also is alluding to Council Clancy on how her constituents do not appear to be present in these meetings. (Unfortunately that is the nature of these meetings, those in favor of masks and vaccines would avoid these large groups because of the Delta variant). 2:06:00 - Woman, honestly I'm zoning out on this one. I think she is just saying a lot of what we've heard before. She does bring up other topics she wants the Council to address like violence in NoCo.


Mikazukinoyaiba

2:10:00 - Man, a veterinarian. **He is speaking in support of the mask mandate** so that's rare. He is hear to address an upcoming KMOV news story about the County Animal Department and wants the Council to defend the department from what he thinks will be an unfair smear against the department. Returns to the topic of mask ordinance. Calls out how those who do not wear masks want to do so because they are thinking about just themselves and not others. Starts mentioning the 1918 Spanish Flu and what St. Louis did vs Philadelphia and how it saved more lives. Time has run out. A few people clapping in the audience. 2:14:00 - Woman, think she said she is a nurse. Is against the masks, mentions how harmful it is to child development. Shows concern about the future of the health of the children (frankly if Delta or another variant continues to develop to be worse for children I wonder if her stance would change). 2:17:00 - John Glasgow, Vietnam Veteran. Claims to be a Doctor I think, wearing a Qanon shirt. Claims that wearing a Mask makes you a Communist and mentions the usual argument about N-95 filtering particles that viruses are too small for (this misinformation is persistent). Mentions sedition and treason and how people can be hung in a tribunal for it (I wonder where he was on January 6th). Admits that he isn't a Medical Doctor but claims he has a Doctorate and that he has done research in infectious disease and microbiology. Insists something about the NIH registry and that the CDC "admits" there is no COVID virus. \----------------------- Well that's it everyone. The usual crowd of crazies but that last Vietnam guy was something for sure. May try to find out where he got his Doctorate and what publications he has done.


nicklapierre

Respect for the reporting. Thanks for taking the brain cell hit for the rest of us.


imakeholesinu

I'm literally sitting here, eating popcorn, waiting for your next edit.


Ghostystp

Will YouTube pull this video for false information again?


Mikazukinoyaiba

Possibly, I have a feeling someone has been reporting the videos because of how embarrassing they make the Right look.


UsedToBsmart

Unfortunately as much as we try to distance ourself from these Q crazies, we all wear the Missourah dunce hat once we leave the state. The state is a laughing stock on a national level. I got on a work Teams call today and someone played banjo music when I joined. I tried asking if someone from Tennessee was on the call, but it was clear who they were giving shit to.


nicklapierre

If someone's from California, turn on some audio of a fire


Jazzlike-Cable-6939

How do this many dumb people exist? It’s alarming


FL3TCHL1V3S

What time do the lunatics get their 3 minutes of insanity?


Mikazukinoyaiba

[Here is the agenda](https://stlouisco.civicweb.net/Portal/MeetingInformation.aspx?Id=258), but I'm not sure when Public Comment is allowed.


Mikazukinoyaiba

Public Comment is now


Quaternary_sloth

Welp, the mast mandate didn't pass.


waystonebb

As a healthcare worker taking care of covid patients, I am devasted. Numbers are continuing to go up and things are not going to get better until we have a majority vaccinated and until that time we need universal masking. As a mother of a child with health problems...I am astounded at the amount of parents running their kids through stores unmasked. Just today I was in target and passed THREE different family groups with kids unmasked and kids were coughing or had runny noses. One kid had such a bad cough that I am SURE she had RSV or covid. We and our kids are in real trouble. I have had the unfortunate experience to see my kid in the ICU, not once but twice and he is four. That is something I will never unsee and I don't want that for any parent. I am out of fight. I had an ounce of trust left in humanity but its all gone after what I have seen in the last three weeks. Trust me when I say us healthcare workers are burnt out. We are tired...


always_gretchen

I’m really sorry. I am grateful for everything you’re doing for the rest of us. We don’t deserve it.


waystonebb

Thanks. This past year and a half has been the hardest. It helps to know that there are at least some people in the community that are still willing to do their part in this fight. I am tired of seeing death and destruction because of covid.


Crutation

I have seen a few people get out of patient care because they just can't deal with it anymore. The fact that these patients are doing this to themselves knowingly just, idk, broke them.


EnvironmentalClub410

Thank God. Not that I’m an idiot who believes in a sky fairy, but that just seemed to be the appropriate expression for the moment.


KobiGirreven

lots of regurgitating misinformation that originated in the Mount Vernon council meeting that was being shared by anti-vax/anti-maskers.


waystonebb

This is a trainwreck. I can't watch. The amount of disinformation I have heard in the 20 minutes I watched is shocking. This is not a fair meeting. Those supporting a mask mandate do not feel safe to attend the meeting


waystonebb

I am 100% sure that the average IQ score of those in attendance is less than 100


Mikazukinoyaiba

Now that I'm done w/ the Public Comments I am going to take a shower and pour myself some bourbon.


mschawacker

Make it a double. You earned it.


Ghostystp

That's generous