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Response by The Factory regarding the falling light

Response by The Factory regarding the falling light

makinithappen69

What did you expect them to say?


ayending1

"Good Luck"


Claudio6314

In that Serbian accent from Taken.


Half-Axe

I dunno, anything from no response to a polite mind your business? The fact that they list themselves, the contactor and the manufacturer as part of the investigation signals to me they are actually doing it and it wasn't a pulled out of the ass response. This is a new venue so I had no idea. They could have just dodged until their liquor license was pulled or they were shut down pending legal investigation. These are both things that have happened in the St. Louis area. Not for falling lights, specifically, but, you get the picture.


TraptNSuit

Those are the parties to be named in the lawsuit.


pmarlowe78

I will be at Gojira too! If we die, it's a hell of a nice way to go!


Half-Axe

I mean how metal would that be? Crushed by a building destroyed by brutal riffs.


Volkditty

Bet they'll blow the roof off the place. Bet they'll really bring the house down. Bet they'll...third joke.


math_monkey

They have a killer light show


caraffa

Or by brutal [whales](https://youtu.be/dRR_pXJT0zU)


Vir1lity

I was at Marc Rebillet last night. The vibration from the bass was insane. I’ve been to hundreds of live shows and I’ve never felt bass like this. I can see how a fixture could come apart if not bolted down properly. From what I could see it didn’t detach from the ceiling, it was the panel and shade that came down from the post that it mounted to.


Half-Axe

That's good context thank you. Glad you're ok! Also jealous of the epic bass boom.


Mego1989

It's all supposed to have safety cables on it.


The_Big_BoBoSki

By then? I'm going to a show there tomorrow. Hopefully it's some freak thing and not an actual structural issue


trvsw

They said “by the time the next event... takes place” so presumably they’re addressing it before the show today


Serious_Novel5383

Woah. I know a few people that went to this show last night. Was the person seriously injured? Why isn't there anything on the news about this?


Half-Axe

I asked that same question in the thread someone posted who was there. I went to the source to ask and wanted to show my response. I am a little concerned nobody picked this story up.


mathematicalmetric

They were right in my view. They didn't look seriously hurt. The fixture looked like it fell kind of in slow-mo and didn't shatter. I'm sure it didn't feel great, but I'm guessing no serious injury. They stood up and held the fixture in the air to chants of "take it home!".


aeywaka

90's: I intend to die in the pit. 2021: I'm allergic to tap water. (only teasing, friends. They should address the faults)


Half-Axe

Haha it's true though. Teen: confidently invulnerable Adult: acutely aware of own mortality


Tobias_Flenders

Is this the whale band? Do people pit to that music?


Half-Axe

Flying Whales is one song by them, yes. Check out The Art of Dying for another example. They have a range between prog and tech death. https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=xnHialslu6k&feature=share


Tobias_Flenders

Is the floor a pit at a show like this?


CultAtrophy

Yes. There were GA and reserved seats available. I’d expect a pit.


stlkatherine

Because you bring it up, have you ever had to pay extra for a pit or dance floor ticket? A recent show at Stepfordville had three levels: seated, GA and pit. I hope this does not become an industry standard.


CultAtrophy

This would be like The Pageant where GA is the cheapest not like ScottTrade where it’s expensive.


SouthSideCountryClub

If the architectural lighting is suspect I wonder what other conrner were cut? Structural load points, rigging?


Mixermarkb

I can absolutely guarantee you that no corners have been cut on structural load points or rigging in any way. The grid is engineered to hold well over 100,000 pounds, at or above industry standard safety ratios. There also have been numerous rattle tests at full show volume before any audience ever hit the building. Im not sure what happened to that one house light, but I can assure you that it absolutely will be looked at, hard, and whatever problem was the cause, it will be fixed. It’s absolutely a first class venue, and nothing will be swept under the rug.


Half-Axe

They responded pretty quickly on a Sunday and I hope they follow through. Pretty satisfied by the response.


SouthSideCountryClub

Responding quickly because they are investigating today and some people are about to lose their jobs and get sued. Imo


Half-Axe

Oh no doubt. I'd expect some contracts to be broken/not picked back up or a suit among the parties. Nobody wants to be on the hook for death lights.


SouthSideCountryClub

💯, I would like to know who did the install


stlkatherine

Looks like KayBee per screenshot.


RageAgainstTheSurge

「走れ!ゴジラだ!」("Run! It's Gojira!") 「ゴジラが照明器具を破壊する!」("Gojira destroys the lighting fixtures!") 「いや!ゆるいランプでゴジラを破壊するのは 『ファクトリー』だ」("No! It is 'The Factory' that destroys Gojira with loose lighting fixtures.") ​ Sorry, I just couldn't help it.


Half-Axe

Haha don't be sorry that's hilarious. French death/prog metal band with a Japanese name singing in English about American lighting fixures.


g0aliegUy

Oh weird, all three parties that could face legal liability for a falling light (the venue, the construction company, and the lighting company) are conducting a review of themselves. How bold! I'm sure they have no incentive to downplay their responsibility.


Half-Axe

Granted, but all 3 *do* have incentive to make sure there isn't a repeat. You think tours are going to keep booking a place that the front falls off? They'll just do pop's or the pageant or red flag or music park or something and that's not good for business for the factory at the very least.


g0aliegUy

Of course they have an incentive to make sure there isn't a repeat, I never said they didn't. My point is why would you trust an organization to investigate themselves regarding something that already happened as a result of their negligence?


Half-Axe

I don't know if trust is the word... more like I know Chesterfield, County, State, etc probably won't do anything and if they did it wouldn't be near to soon. At least this way they will probably fix any problems before those slow moving authorities get involved and/or before word gets out.


and_another_dude

Who else would you expect to do this?


imakeholesinu

Here I was thinking a flood would doom this place, instead shoddy construction.


Hypocrisydenied

I was sure we'd have to worry about falling lights at every show...


Sobie17

I would say Knocked Loose goes at an 11 and Gojira is a 5.


Half-Axe

Honestly I've never heard their stuff. Where would you put Knocked Loose on a scale from Mastodon to Meshuggah for how hard they go?


Sobie17

Live wise? Probably on par with Dillinger.


Half-Axe

So I never saw DEP unfortunately but I'd put them between Gojira and Rivers of Nihil personally. Either way, makes me excited that I will love Knocked Loose!


Sobie17

Yeah, personally, I was bummed because I'm not really a huge Gojira fan and Knocked Loose is more hardcore. Was hoping to maybe see them at Red Flag or somewhere a bit more raw than Factory. DEP was the kind of band to fuck up the venue and leave. Knocked Loose isn't quite there but the intensity and raw noise is. Enjoy the show!


Half-Axe

Nice! Thank you!


CultAtrophy

I saw DEP at The Ready Room and someone fucked up their ceiling tiles crowd surfing.


wuuza

Did you happen to see Rivers of Nihil at Pop's a few days ago? How was that?


Half-Axe

Well I tried to! I fucked up royally and left my Vax card at home. I rushed back to get it and got there right after they left the stage. I'm still extremely sad about it. They are legit my favorite band. After the Burial was amazing and honestly I think Black Dahlia Murder is meh. Even though AtB melted my face it was no consolation. My only hope is that RoN has a tour after they drop The Work in full and I can catch them in a few months. I'm still kinda destroyed I missed them.


wuuza

That sucks. They were the only act I wanted to see and they were so far down the bill I couldn't quite drag myself out of the house to maybe see 20-30 minutes of them. Yeah, hopefully they'll come back soon.