Jones adds police, outlines plan to improve downtown's image.
By - horsepunch9898
> They'll be deployed from Friday evening through Sunday
I haven’t seen a cop after midnight on Wash ave, and that’s when the trouble begins
The real good trouble.
> Cultural events, she said, will help rebuild the perception of safety and encourage visitors to return.
> “I see an idle downtown as a troublemakers’ paradise,” Jones said.
I super dig this response. Kill two birds with one stone.
Glad Ms. Jones is taking action. DTSTL has a horrible rep and it’s getting worse. If the city/region wants to grow they have to focus on downtown first.
Police alone won’t fix downtown. It’s a catch 22, you need people living and working downtown to make it safer. To attract people downtown you need to make it safer. It will take a lot of time, money and effort, having police “patrol” will defiantly help, but won’t fix it over night.
> you need people living and working downtown to make it safer. To attract people downtown you need to make it safer
Being scared actually causes more crime when people flee.
But this is definitely probably a step in the right direction, if it's executed competently.
It isn't the solution alone but it is a good first one. You have to make people feel safe before they will consider living there. Cracking down on places like Reign is another good recent move.
Yeah I think she was the wrong choice, but I'm glad she is doing SOMETHING. Hopefully it pans out and she just doesn't start calling everyone who points out the issues with downtown racists.
A lot of mentioning of the drag racing downtown in the article.
Here's my idea: The city already has a lot of the road downtown torn up to reach underground infrastructure. Use the opportunity to install fast deploy bollards in the road that automatically deploy if someone runs a red over a certain speedlimit. Stops the car. Stops the driver from ever doing it again. Requires no police presence. Only person harmed is the idiot dumb enough to do it in the first place.
I am of course mostly joking, but holy shit do I have zero remorse for these shitheads doing this crap in the first place, on top of bringing it out of their neighborhood.
It's just such a hassle to clean all remains after a high speed collision like that. Maybe red light cameras? So they can pay for the drag races.
I see Schnucks has those automated floor sweepers now. Maybe somebody makes a street sized version to shove the wreck off the road. Damn, that just sounds like automated hell, now that I'm picturing this.
Sounds like Cyberpunk 2077.
Nah, some lawyer in the county got those ruled out. No redlight cameras in st louis.
They were predatory and mostly benefiting a 3rd party company who were misleading people into thinking they were official government fines when they weren't. Screw that. Good riddance to those.
I'm glad she is doing something. Downtown has been heading the wrong way the last couple of years. The crime and violence is a detriment to the whole area.
That is a wonderful idea I hope that it can enter the public discourse
This has always been a pet issue of mine too, and I had the same thought when I read the article. Really, adding officers to enforce the park curfew, of all things? It just seems crazy that people aren't allowed to go to a public park at whatever time of night they want. On the other hand, there are a lot of things that are crazy about the current state of things, and currently we may not be able to afford the officers right now that would be needed to keep people safe there at night.
Yes, closing the parks (or anything really) at night is a dick move that harms law-abiding civilians like myself --- and when we flee, crime gets worse. Criminals will be there whether it's open or not.
Agree, I miss going to downtown parks at night. I have not gone in the last two years because of COVID and crime. I thought about it many nights over this past summer.
Good luck to her, hope it works
We have a lovely alt right page you might like.
Thinks defunding police could be a bad idea = alt right... Yeah ok
And the breaking of campaign promises begins. Just another ol politician, I kinda wish Cara had won. I definitely can't say I'm surprised tho, after all we knew she was a money lover from her past history (paid trips, parking debacles, sending kids to private school)
Which campaign promise is she breaking here and why are you upset with it?
Defund the police and fund social services, not sweep unhouse encampments. Work with community partners to tackle issues.
You cannot fund social services and other promises she made without an influx of tax dollars. Downtown with it’s bars and attractions is vital to getting people outside of the city to spend money here. If they don’t feel safe or incentivized to go downtown, then the whole city suffers.
This was Tishaura's response to how she defined "defund the police" [https://youtu.be/sFgXc5wrkvA?t=2304](https://youtu.be/sFgXc5wrkvA?t=2304)
>"It's about deploying the right professional to the right call"
She never meant it in an "abolish the police" sense and moving around officers or even adding new ones doesn't contradict what she said.
It’s so helpful political to use slogans that don’t have actual meaning.
The PATRIOT Act says hello, so does No Child Left Behind.
And how exactly is social services supposed to help with the downtown violent crime issue in the near term? (And not decades down the road)
Open up opportunities for teens to do something, basketball, late night swimming, block parties. The main point of the approach of social services is asking why the behavior is happening and working backwards.
Yeah but you have to account for the mindstate of the people doing the shooting and most of them could care less about anything that doesn’t involve women, drugs, and pretending like you got money. Education is the key.
You can't reach them to educate them if you don't create something they are interested in.
Let me stop my crime spree and put down the gun because I'm going swimming!
Can't bust off some rounds when I'm doing a backstroke
Exactly how it works!
Yep! I bet all the non-children commiting these crimes just need a place to play. This will surely resolve this metro wide issue
I also want these things and believe they can be a future crime deterrent. The lack of basketball courts is abhorrent. But we also need to address current realities. That will not stop those already embedded in a life of crime. If someone is presently funding their lifestyle from crime, how do you suppose these activities change that established neuro pathway ending in fulfillment?
You mean homeless tent farms?
Try to get an NBA team in the Enterprise Center. Offer up a decent portion of the $500m covid relief funds as an incentive to teams looking to relocate or as an expansion effort. Every league other than the NHL will be expanding in the next five years. Without the NFL here, STL is a prime midsized market for a league that doesn’t like a whole lot of competition in their markets. This brings 36 games to downtown each year. It supports adjacent hotels, restaurants, bars, etc. You have to give people a reason to come here and spend money if you want it to improve and this is just one of many ways.
I'm pretty sure that's not what those funds are intended for.
I think it can be used to improve the city. An NBA team would probably create quite a few jobs. Just an idea.
As if the city would do right by the taxpayer.
That definitely violates the guidelines for how those funds have be used.
Uhh hate to say it but the NBA would not work here because outside of the downtown city of st. louis it is not popular and largely viewed as a 'thug league'.
This x1000000 , what would the team be called tho?
The St. Louis FuckKroneke’s
Please use arch flair
I thought she promised to get rid of the police? Another dishonest politician. Say it ain’t so.
Well, actually you're the one being dishonest.
You're a liar.
There you go again.
I don’t get it