ALDI looking to fill hundreds of positions in St. Louis area
By - iWORKBRiEFLY
"ALDI’s national average starting wages for open store and warehouse positions is $15 and $19 per hour, based on market and positions."
That's higher than an low level lab technician that most college graduates become...
Edit. The lab tech I'm talking about are for college graduates who are on gap year. In Utah $15/hr for 40hrs/week is livable. I lived pretty comfortable when I held that position. In WashU I was offered a position at the same time (2018) for 14.9/hr. I'm not sure how that would be living here. I no longer work as a tech but as a grad student, and when I left my previous job I was still paid $15/hr.
Also I should add that a bio grad student's stipend is anywhere from $29,000 to $35,000, depending on where you are. WashU pays 32,500 per year, I believe. If you're a medical student, well, pray that whoever accepts you pays a stipend at all. Mayo Clinic does, and WashU just started paying last year or something.
Academic doesn't pay well, at least for students. I've also heard that even for anything under an associate professor it doesn't pay well. Full time professors aren't rolling in dough, either, depending on the discipline.
Coming from China, I can confirm that manual labor (tailors, bricklayers, even) pays much higher here than back home
Considering that's a barely livable wage, that's the lab's fault, not Aldi's.
Funny how high schooler labeled jobs pay more than educated adult jobs
Maybe the educated adult jobs should also pay more.
But how would the CEO make 1500x what they do to assert their dominance?
Maybe society wants hamburgers and fries more.
More money = more burgers
$15/ hour is well more than a livable wage in St Louis.
$15/ hour is barely a livable wage in St Louis. It’s livable if you are young and have no financial obligations. If you have kids, it is not a livable wage at all. Either way, someone making $15/ hour is living paycheck to paycheck and is only a few steps ahead of poverty
Negative. I make $30k or less a year and live quite well and am nowhere near poverty. If you can't live on $15/hour in St. Louis, something is wrong. It's super cheap here.
Are you single/ childless, and do you rent?
I own my house, no kids.
That might explain why thats more akin to a living wage in stl, especially if you're in the DINK category
Not everyone has your situation. You said $15/hour is well more than the livable wage. It's not. For someone with no kids, debt, mortgage, other dependents, etc, $15 can be a living wage, but not far above it. For someone with some of those living expenses, $15/hour turns into a subsistence wage very quickly. They'll never be able to save money and one financial emergency could completely wipe them out. That is a huge part of the population. You could work 40 hours a week and never have more than $500 in your bank account. That's a step above the poverty line. That's far from living well
Don't spend money you don't have, and don't have kids you can't afford.
Comepletly unrealistic to expect the entire population to live like that. That’s a fantasy
Tell me where. Because I'm making essentially 20 an hour and barely making it work.
Well, personally I'm in U city, but you can really pick your poison in STL, most of the city and county are very affordable
Man I must live somewhere less entirely then. Or I'm imaginary.
I also must be imaginary, cause people keep telling me I must live in poverty cause I make $30k or less a year.
I male 24k a year and do live in poverty. Lower class in Missouri is 26k a year. Your lower low class but not poverty granted theres barely a difference.
You're just making up numbers and calling them things.
If you're making less than 30k you are most definitely under-paid.
If you don't feel like you're in poverty then you have a roommate to help split rent and def don't have kids.
None of these things are true
Living wage calculated to be $14.07 for one adult with zero children in St Louis.
Who the hell spends $625 a month on transportation? We have some of the cheapest gas in the country. And it goes up to over $1k a month for transportion if you have three kids?! Either way, at $15/ hour you would have an extra $2k a year after ALL expenses were paid, including "civic" which is "fun money" for things like travel and entertainment. Be smarter abouts your transportation expenses and you can easily save another $3k a year.
FYI, cars break down and need to be repaired.
> Who the hell spends $625 a month on transportation?
You're thinking of just gas and oil changes, there are a lot more costs involved in transport including the cost of the car itself.
Standard mileage deduction according to the government is $0.58 / mile. $625/month is just over 1,000 miles per month. Or about 13,000 miles / year which is exactly what the avg person drives per year.
I have a 2009 Civic that cost me about 440/month before factoring in oil changes and wiper blades, etc.
repairs 50 (600/yr over 3 years)
Stop using logic.
ALDI works you like a dog from what I’ve heard.
I've never worked anywhere hourly that didn't work me like a dog until my shift was over. No time to blink, you are selling time as a part of the great machine.
Most of my hourly & salary jobs have been like that, my present hourly IT job excluded though
Depending on your projects and experiments and PIs, a lab can also work you like a dog.
Not where I work.
So? Lucky you, then.
Wow, probably not a good idea to be a lab tech then. Doesn't pay a living wage, plus automation is really going to make that a tough career to hold on to as well.
If you need experience for grad school, be a tech is a great idea. Maybe senior techs get paid more. I don't know
Make up your mind buddy. Which is it? What about automation?
What are you even talking about? Make up mind on what? What automation? You're the one who says being a tech is a horrible idea, not me. You got any logic left in your head?
Do you even know what a lab tech is? It's a research position, senior techs can also be lab managers. What does that had to do with automation? Don't comment on stuff you don't know, yeah?
Haha, naw that was all you my friend. You’re all over the place. Make up your mind: does working for this grocery store pay more or less and work you harder or less than a “low-level lab technician”?
I suggest you read again or learn proper English. Only an idiot confuses what I've said
If you didn’t want to discuss this, why did you bring it up?
Why can’t you answer such a simple question, and why does it trigger you so badly?
If you just figured out that you’re out of your league and can’t answer the question: try to say so politely, instead of lashing out like a child.
This is misleading. If you go to the Aldi website, it's more like a few dozen. There are 156 jobs in Missouri, about 1/3 in the St. Louis area
My wife has applied to ALDI dozens of times over the last several months for different positions, different hours, etc. She has a huge work gap from raising our kids. Each and every time they reply to her application that they are going in a different direction. These businesses need to stop letting their automated systems reject great candidates.
I’ve seen a theory about this recently that I think has some legs.
All these big businesses are claiming they can’t hire enough worker. I’ve also heard plenty of stories like your where people are applying and getting nowhere. Essentially the theory is this: these companies don’t want to hire people. They want the employees they already have to be placated into sucking up the stress of being understaffed and customers to suck up the associated inconvenience as long as possible because having lower wage expenses without a major loss of customers can mean more profit. And all the while, it’s a convenient excuse for poor customer service.
A fast food restaurant near me had 4-5 people working a shift pre-pandemic. Last time I was there they had two. So those employees are doing at least twice the work per hour they would have before.
Are they getting paid twice as much? No. They might have gotten a raise to $15 an hour but that means they are making *less* money for the amount of work they now have to perform per hour than they did before.
It's pretty obvious that this is the case. McDonald's in my town is starting at $14/hr. And they can't find workers, yet, people are applying all the time. It's an intentional drive by corporations to keep their payroll low, give an excuse for poor service, and blame poor people for "not wanting to work".
I would definitely advise her to put something in that “gap”. I put it in quotes because taking time out of the workforce to raise your kids is totally different, she was raising kids and that’s work. Work that will likely make her a better employee, especially in a grocery store.
I’ve been advising a lot of moms who are returning to the workforce to show the power in that pause. I’ve yet to meet someone who didn’t come out the other side a better worker.
I disagreed with the person who said to add childcare duties to their resume but I think your advice is better. A lot of parents out of the workforce helped coordinate volunteers for a playgroup or school PTA and volunteer work in lieu of employment is something worthy of inclusion. But absolutely don’t list your childcare as if it is a job on your resume. Every hiring manager I know trashes resumes that do that whether you agree with it or not. Feel free to discuss in interviews or maybe even a cover letter but in a retail job especially, absolutely not on a resume or application.
I'm surprised they even ask for a resume, given it's a retail job
Your wife needs to start lying on her application, afterall, everyone else is. It's a game to get past the machines. Say anything you need to.
She's not a liar, so she's not going to falsify something to get ahead in life. It's not honest and her and I both believe in karma. So no lying over here. She ended up finding a job the old school way, go around to businesses and ask for an application. She would fill it out and turn it back in right then and there. I just think if your business is struggling to hire some of these automated processes need to be looked at.
She could fill that gap by adding childcare duties to the resume - that's time and schedule management, etc
Don’t do this. Employers hate it and it’s not great to invite the conversation to your family status.
If you can't even get to the conversation with said employer because some automated system is filtering you out for having a gap in work experience... well, what's there to lose in trying??
If you both truly believe that her gap in employment is a potential issue or something that needs to be discussed with a potential employer then I can respect that stance.
If you and her believe that she would have no problem returning to work and that her applications are being rejected via an automated system then you are foolish and pretentious to act as if a white lie about work history is going to cause “bad karma.” Especially if the embellishments are specifically to subvert an obviously flawed system.
To your first part, she did end up thinking it was an issue so she went the old school route and just going to businesses directly instead of applying online. She would show up, ask for an application, if they had one she would fill it out right there, and if they said it was online, she would go back to her car and fill it out and go back in and let them know she did. So they could put a face with the name. It eventually worked after about a week and now she has a pretty good job doing something she really enjoys.
Glad to hear it worked out for you all.
No matter the color, a lie is still a lie. Foolish would be the struggling businesses relying on an algorithm for their hiring practices. Pretentious would be ALDI for claiming they are hiring hundreds of workers and automatically rejecting applicants because a computer told them too.
> Foolish would be the struggling businesses relying on an algorithm for their hiring practices.
Do you really believe any large business isn’t doing this?
I can only speak on our experiences.
>her and I both believe in karma.
The original concept from India or the bastardization that Westerners use?
We do not equate karma with luck if that is what you mean, karma is the consequence of an action, good or bad.
The "My Name is Earl" version.
Karma is a funny thing.
That's consequences, not karma. Karma is your deeds in a past life affecting your reincarnation into this life, and is used to justify the caste system.
Not trying to argue
Just wanted to know what you meant by karma.
Did not think you were, sorry if my reply came off that way.
These automated systems screw so many people out of jobs. I think if she doesn't want to go a little overboard w/her resume to get past the automated system, she might need to reword her experience to include key words like 'management' & etc so she has a better chance of making it through
Don't say "anything you need to" because if you're lying that'll be an immediate rejection if you're caught. If you're not caught, it usually becomes apparent after from your performance which could also lead to being fired.
I'm part of the executive steering committee with the c-suite of the company I work for. You are right it is kind of a game to get past it. I know it can be kind of ridiculous, but it weeds out a lot unqualified people. Not everyone weeded out is unqualified, they just aren't aware of what they need to put on their resume. I recommend looking at the job posting and adding keywords from that. The screener, oftentimes, is looking for those keywords. Don't leave gaps in your resume, put some sort of date/time reference for what you were doing during that time.
> if you're lying that'll be an immediate rejection if you're caught. If you're not caught, it usually becomes apparent after from your performance which could also lead to being fired.
So if you lie you might get/keep the job. If you tell the truth you definitely won't get the job. Sounds like lying is the best option of the two.
People need to work to eat and put a roof over their heads. It has nothing to do with character.
Wait, your grocery store and landlord don’t accept character as currency?!
If you believe lying your way through life is the best option, go for it, but that says a lot about your character.
It really says more about our society. Tell the truth and starve or lie and get somewhere.
For the opportunity at a chance of employment.
That's not a moral issue with a person. That's a shitty situation caused by corporations and the wealthy. You're blaming the wrong people and this attitude is why it perpetuates.
So what you're saying is you don't want to do your job and skim resumes, while you continue to scratch your head as to why you can't find qualified people?
Or let me guess, nobody wants to work.
> If you're not caught, it usually becomes apparent after from your performance which could also lead to being fired.
It's a part time job at a grocery store....not lying about saying you know the cure for cancer or some shit
I have no issue finding qualified people or having people work. The issue is when you have people who are completely unqualified constantly applying. College students apply to everything.
>College students apply to everything
"ugh, how dare these young people entering the workforce seek out experience and employment to become productive members of society. The audacity"
I assumed I was talking to a relatively reasonable person that didn't need this explained. College students should be applying for entry level positions, not positions that require 5+ years experience in a completely unrelated field.
And my suspicions are confirmed, I'm speaking with someone who hasn't applied for a job in years.
Just what are new grads supposed to do when 95% of "entry level" jobs are the ones requiring 3-5 years or more experience?
Your suspicions are wrong. If you read through my comment history, you'll see that I have and have experience sending out multiple resumes.
My understanding is that entry level usually doesn’t mean no experience at all, but rather the position requiring the least experience at a company. It's entry level to the company not the industry.
That was never a thing until shitty HR personnel and recruiters hijacked the term to justify their seeking of purple squares
The actual fuck are you talking about? Entry level positions *require* multiple years experience. This isn't the 70's bud.
What are you talking about? Most entry level positions assume you need no experience which is true in some cases. It depends on the company. I'm aware this isnt the 70s. I'm nowhere close the age of someone born in the 70s. Guess what. Millennials are in management positions now.
I'm going to totally disagree with you here and would down vote you twice if I could. You're way too far removed from the day to day reality of running a company at the entry level to know you're wrong.
I've dealt with the automated rejection stuff. In a grocery setting. The automated stuff is absolute crap and cannot at all accurately determine who will and will not be a good employee. For HR/paperwork/process purposes our high schoolers and college kids would technically have to re-apply so that we could re-hire for the summer/Thanksgiving/Christmas/Easter. Once we started using the automated crap it would routinely reject people who had been nothing but fantastic, requiring us to manually override it. Not even college kids. We'd have people leave to raise their kids and come back, only to be rejected because a computer said so.
This was all way far back in my past. I'm in IT management now. And even now I can tell you computers are routinely wrong. A human should be doing your hiring.
Your company is part of the labor problems if they're letting an algorithm call the shots. There are some "problems" that IT can't appropriately fix, and people is one of them.
This would've gotten my free award had I not given it to something stupid that made me chuckle earlier.
Risking getting fired from a job you wouldn't have gotten unless you lied is no risk at all. So what if they fire you? You're no worse off than you were when you were unemployed. And how are they going to find out? It's Aldi's not brain surgery. Just go thru the training and you'll be fine.
Lastly, everyone lies on their resumes nowadays. It's endemic. If you aren't lying you aren't playing on a level field. Would you go to a poker game and play honestly if you knew for a fact everyone else at the table was cheating? You'd be a fool to do that. Same goes with job hunting.
Just my .02 after tons of job searches over the years.
>f you're lying that'll be an immediate rejection if you're caught.
the horror of getting caught one day as a fraud at Aldi and being fired/banned from the grocery industry
>Don't leave gaps in your resume, put some sort of date/time reference for what you were doing during that time.
Stay At Home Mom - 25 years
> Stay At Home Mom - 25 years
Domestic Facilities & Personnel Management - 25 years
Right being caught lying and then explaining why you potentially got fired isn't good.
Okay you're a stay at home mom, there's certainly something in your personal time that can benefit you. I'm sure you don't literally stay home all day. Maybe you're involved in some sort of activity (e.g., through church, NGOs, or some other acrivity).
For starters, you can be confident knowing you don't need your hand held at work or to be micro managed because you're used to taking care of things, unlike most younger people.
>then explaining why you potentially got fired isn't good
Its easy to explain if off TBH
"Hostile work environment" and you don't have to explain more and covers why you don't have a good reference
Also we're talking about a front of store position dude, those always have high turnovers so nobody is interested in doing a deep background check.
Nothing in this comment has convinced me entry level applicants shouldn't lie their asses off.
Obviously don't go around saying you're a doctor or anything but if you're applying to a grocery store... say what you need to.
This is correct, and I'm not sure why people disagree. As a hiring manger, if I find out that you're lying, or I even suspect you're lying, I disqualify you from the interview process.
I once hired someone that oversold their skillset to the point he was basically lying, and became clear within the first month that they were barely capable of doing what they said they could do. Long story short, this person didn't last a year on the team. You need to show that you can do the job without lying.
Sure, but if you don't find out, then they might get the job. On the flipside, without lying, there isn't a chance at the job in the first place. In that sense, there's no risk in trying the lying route - the worst that happens is that they're back to square one.
Well, if you don't get caught lying good for you, but it speaks a lot about you as a person. In the working world, you need to have credibility. That said, if you lie once to get a job, why do you have to continue lying to keep getting jobs? You should get the experience then switch to a position that is similar to what you're already doing (but is an upward move). If you have to lie every time you apply then there is a problem with the person applying, not the job. It says to me that the person can't keep a stable job and that the person doesn't know what kind of job he/she wants so they switch jobs a lot - which is also a reason I wouldn't hire someone.
I would rather train someone who is upfront about not knowing what they're doing than train someone who lied about what they can do.
Its aldi bro
Just tell ur wife to lie on her application. They are lying to her, so who gives a fuck. Have her put my contact info down i will say she was the best damn manager ive ever had.
Call the manager and tell them your name and that you put in an application. HR and the automated system will take 100 applicants and give a hiring manager 4 shit choices.
This ain’t the 90s dude. They get annoyed as shit when you do that or tell you they can’t do anything
Then don’t get hired. Doesn’t bother me - I guess the most important thing is not annoying people.
I’ve applied dozens of times and no call. I’m qualified and available. Like banging my head against a wall.
Story of my life up until recently
Do they have any CDL jobs?
I feel like maybe ALDI's not telling the whole story? 🤔
Aldis nuts in yo mouth
I applied to Aldis, they don't contact you back after their annoying online application that takes too much time for no human response.
Such is the modern job hunt
I’d like to clarify that these positions will likely be part time as hell, and if you want to work these jobs it would be good to get hired on specifically to unionize the shops and ensure full time contracts
I worked at schnucks once in their union. That union was trash. I only ever got up to 20 hours. and they were scattered through out the week so i was still working 7 days a week. On top of that i was paying union dues but not getting any benefits from the union because of my part time status. Unions wont protect you from the part time bullshit. Find a GOOD union(:
Union are as good as you work to make them. Did you ever actually reach out to 655 to get requests on hours/ arbitration?
No i had omly just started working there and was told i couldnt reach out to my union rep until 90 days probation period was up. Personally, i dont have 90 days to wait to make a living wage. Not all unions are shit (most are amazing) but the one that represents schnucks is garbage.
Can confirm, worked @ Schnucks in their union for 6yrs...it was trash for the most part but when they had the lockout in the early 2000s, everyone was super united though. I too was PT & they would work me like 32-36hrs just so I would remain PT, sometimes 7 days straight. I would have had no problem being FT seeing I was in video. But I can say I some real fun times working here...I got a few of my friends hired so we would have watergun fights, etc.
I'd say have at it for Walmart, sure.....but I've heard nothing but good about Aldi.
There's a misnomer that "good" stores don't need unions. If they were good they would just willingly recognize a union
Uh. So get hired to be a union instigator? Uh. Ok…
Yes, what's wrong with trying to make a shitty job better? Get hired on and form a union. Seems like a better use of time than doing menial pointless work at bad wages that will get cut as soon as the market adjusts back to being employer dominated
Have you done this at any position you have been hired for yourself?
Not that it's any of your business, but yes.
Did you succeed in shutting the business down?
Fun way to get fired and have some adventures while working a shit job.
Sounds defeatist; I'd rather work to make the world better than complaining on the internet
Oh for sure! Go for it! It's genuinely what our minimum wage workforce needs.
It's just that the track record for starting a union somewhere usually leads to instant termination "for being late" as soon you start using the word too much. So if you go work for Aldi with the intention of unionizing, probably best to plan on needing another new job pretty quickly.
Which shouldn't be hard because the only perk of a $13/hr job is that you can quit or even get fired and have a new $13/hr job somewhere else tomorrow.
My mistake; I thought you meant to bemoan the idea.
I think if you know nlrb rules and have close contact with a union it’s a great idea, especially now when a bunch of places are hiring and turnaround time will be short
How could someone get hired in to unionize?
[Forming a Labor Union](https://www.ufcw.org/start-a-union/) requires only a 50% vote of a given class of employee.
Once that vote happens, the employer MUST negotiate with your appointed reps and all workers of that class must accept the contract that comes out of those negotiations.
Get hired at a place and then contact a union to unionize it
I love this idea , need more people like you 🤝
Aldi still advertises its pay as if it's something unique. 15 is barely a living wage now. They need to make 19 their bottom line if they want to maintain the image that they pay their workers a fair wage
> barely above minimum wage now
I think you mean a living wage.
Yeah I did
It's 50% above minimum wage.
Maybe the minimum wage but not the market rate.
I meant living wage, but yeah
Kind of, but not really. We voted to raise the minimum to $12, its just being done over a period of 5 years to ease the "burden" on business.
In my mind, $12 is really the minimum, though it should be higher.
$15/hour is $30k+. That's well above a living wage in St Louis.
No it's not. That is about 1800/month after taxes.
Health insurance: 50 (with a tax credit from marketplace)
Car payment: 150 (generous estimate)
Car insurance: 75
Cell phone bill: 75
Total (before even paying a cent towards any sort of leisure or unnecessary expense): $1625
That is barely scraping by and that's if you literally do nothing besides exist and maintain communications with your friends, family, employer and pay for reliable means of transportation as well as having zero debt payments. It also doesn't take into account annual expenses like property tax and whatever else pops up but isn't a fixed, monthly expense. It also doesn't include emergencies or unexpected costs. A single car accident could put you in a terrible position. It's not "well above living wage" it's "enough to scrape by but not enough to make any sort of meaningful investment in your life, save any money, travel, or afford an emergency if it came up"
$30k a year is $2k a month after taxes. You're paying too much for a lot of things. You can eat well for a lot less than $300/ month. $75 a month for a cell phone is ridiculous. Personally, all my expenses are at $1600 a month and I live and eat well, I travel and take time off, I have two vehicles, I even have chronic medical conditions. It is not at all impossible or even that difficult.
Yes nitpick the cheapest expense on the list. Make it $40 and it makes little difference. 300/month on groceries isn't ridiculous at all.
I highly doubt that you do all of that on 30k/year unless you have other income/someone covering costs or splitting costs with a roommate or partner.
"Live like shit and $30k a year is fine."
Right? And notice it's always privileged fucks who preach on and on about how $x is clearly a living wage, yet have never actually experienced it. It's easy to say $15/hr is easily a living wage when you have no perception of being in debt, not having upfront money to buy things so you're forced into high interest installment plans or whatever, low credit score meaning less opportunities, etc. They just don't get it at all.
You can get Visible phone service for $25/mo & if you shop at places like Aldi, $300/mo for groceries is pretty high. I spend, I shit you not, maybe like $150/month or even less on groceries & I mostly shop at Aldi. I wish my car insurance was only $75. You might be able to get rent for cheaper than $750 too, depending on where you're looking & what's you're looking for.
None of these numbers are fixed, but the total amount is going to be pretty much the same no matter what expense is less and which is more. Unless you expect poor people to just have the shittiest version of everything which is basically just trading monthly cost for larger and more frequent unexpected costs (i.e. phone breaking frequently, car break downs, etc)