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skelocliq

i don't mind witchcraft subs until it's being used for a questionable / negative reason


AffectionateWhole165

yessss! i saw a comment saying that subs like this didn't work because it wasn't possible for a god to help you create a subliminal. meanwhile, the person prays every day hoping HER god will hear her 💀


ismystreetname

💀 :o


Cameroongurl

Because God is undeniably good. And witchcraft is questionable.


goblin_fairy

As someone who is a baby and in a broomcloset , I would say that , it's the misconseption and ignorance to some extent. There are times you would want to explain that 'hey , witchcraft is not evil and also a lot of religions has such practices' but they wil keep on repeating 'Devil worshippers' . (You can be a witch and not follow any religion) People are wierd and ignorant, but I hope it will all change


Luciddream369

Because people have been programmed to associate witchcraft with the devil or any sense of “evil” without any understanding of it’s not what you do it’s how you do and most important the intent behind whatever your doing


AffectionateWhole165

you looks so smart


loveiscanceled

Because; ✨Christianity✨


RadiantLuminals

Well regarding your take on Christianity vs. witchcraft, the main difference is Christian sub makers aren't praying to God and putting intentional energy work into the thing you'll be putting in your head. They're just sub makers who happen to also be Christian. Sub makers who do use witchcraft very often don't know what they're doing. The spiritual realm is NO JOKE. Yes there's light, but there's also dark, heck even the fun fae have been known to be tricky. You could think you're working with ancestors, but you're actually working with a trickster spirit. You're playing around with not only your mind, but your soul so it's good to be discerning. If you use witchcraft just be open about it so people can decide whether they want to use it or not. Some people care, some don't. But don't take away or disguise the choice.


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RadiantLuminals

Right?!


AffectionateWhole165

Christianity have your bad side too. I agree about say that the sub have witchcraft, but yes, some christians submakers are acused of have affirmations citing their god.


RadiantLuminals

And that would be bad. Like Vel.


cyankitten

I’m no longer religious and personally I’ll listen to subs by makers of most religious and or spiritual persuasions including witchcraft and including Christianity and others besides. Where I draw the line is if any sub maker tried to - for eg - put in affirmations to try to convert me and or others to their faith. ALSO I personally have no problems with for eg subs to be a better Christian or witch or ANYTHING like that as long as it is transparent about it so people have that CHOICE to get that


minm1n_

Hm, because there are some tricking spirits? I research often about witchcraft and I always see witches talking about being extremely careful with their beliefs because one mess up and you put your life and others in danger. I think that the main problem here is that people already assume that the Christian God would never do something bad to people praying to him, and because normally its extreme there's Good and Bad and if do the right you go to Good if you do wrong you go to Bad and no one can interfere in this. If you are talking about cherry situation, in my opinion, I think it's fine for people to get a little suspicious of her new subs, her old ones did wonders to everyone who used apparently and they still ok. Her explanations and titles were sus, you can't deny it. I think it can hurt you in the long run, especially the "remove your subconscious mind" one


minm1n_

I forgot to add!! But, now, it's not only your mind in game, it's also your soul. One wrong step and you can lose both. I kinda don't like the idea of trusting subs so easily like this. Let people be critical for once in their lifetime.


AffectionateWhole165

i understand sus cherry, but no they being intolerant with her religion.


Moonandstars0

I’m not really surprised manifesting communites are so weird when it comes to certain beliefs


DifficultAd6161

exactly! people should learn to respect other people's beliefs.


driftydabbler

Yikes, who’s Christian?


AffectionateWhole165

I meant that people wouldn't be so nervous if some subcreator said "god bless you" or whatever, but with a witch that would be a reason to stop listening to her subliminals.


driftydabbler

Yeah I’d def stay away from submakers if I know they’re Christian


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why 💀 that doesn’t make sense


AffectionateWhole165

that is my point. doesn't make sense w witchcraft too


irisirl

What’s wrong with that? Kottie and vel are christian and most people have gotten amazing results from them


AffectionateWhole165

LOL but christians aren't being oppressed


irisirl

That’s not my point i meant why do you have a problem with christian submakers


AffectionateWhole165

i don't have any problem, just asking why some people have sus of subcreators that aren't christians


skelocliq

i don't think people are sus of people who aren't christian. there just doesn't seem to be many popular submaking christians in the community from what i've seen (or submakers who say they're christian).


AffectionateWhole165

its just you search up for "cherry" on this subreddit


skelocliq

i think its pretty obvious why people think cherry is sus. it isnt because she's christian - i don't think she even is christian lmao.


AffectionateWhole165

I just believe that no religion should be considered right and another wrong.


skelocliq

as long as someone isn't hurting themselves or others in the name of their religion i dont care what they believe. cherry isn't a good example to use for your argument because she has done a lot of sketchy stuff.


AffectionateWhole165

ik what u mean, but people associating witchcraft with satanism (something cherry is being accused of being, even though I still don't understand the problem with her having a non-christian religion) is the bad shit.


skelocliq

cherry did claim to have s3x with lucifer and stuff so.. c'mon you've got to see why people don't like that.


SelfImprovementPill

Yes, they are.


AffectionateWhole165

what fucking world are u living? christians are being murdered for being christians? i can't with oppressors trying be the victims 💀


SelfImprovementPill

You genuine have no idea what you’re talking about it’s astonishing you’re revealing how little you know. Middle East boys and girls are raped and killed for being Christians and forced to convert to Islam or killed. In Asia, Christians and Muslims are sent to jail and concentration camps and sometimes killed for practicing the beliefs they have since the Chinese Communist Party does not adhere to religious practices. In Sharia states take Iswap for example, Christians are beheaded in the name of Allah. Next time you say a baseless statement instead do something, do something productive and of value research what you’re talking about so you don’t come across as a dumbass.


VirtualCardiologist6

You’re so stupid I can’t even


driftydabbler

Kottie too? What a pity Vel though I’m not surprised


AffectionateWhole165

im surprised about kottie, her subliminals don't make the christian profile


irisirl

Yeah vel is so toxic he has been accused of putting weird shit in his subs


cyankitten

I just realised today (though I may have seen and forgotten) that one of my current faves is either a witch or pagan (they have a spell on their channel, I think they have a happy Yule video etc). For me it's not creepy but back when I used to be religious I might be been wary cos we were raised to be I guess to be suspicious of other religions and beliefs, that they might try to convert us to their side. So that might be part of why some people are suspicious. Now also, the one of my faves who is either a witch or pagan is very transparent about it. Open about it and also as I've said I'm more inclined to believe someone like that who is straight up about having those beliefs. And I know that not all witchcraft is bad but some people have been taught that ALL witchcraft is for bad purposes. Which I personally do not believe.


AffectionateWhole165

i understand your point, but u can't believe on anything that u don't wanna.


cyankitten

Yes I agree.


cyankitten

AND I'll use Christian makers' subs too. As I said ANY religion or spirituality doesn't bother me. But it might have back in my raised religious days.