By - A-nice-bowl-of-soup
Soul Drinkers 🤤 or Hawk Lords
I could go all day
I play souldrinkers and people taunt me with emperor children...
I play loyalist Emperors children and I never am taunted.
Same, nobody gonna talk shit about the saints of cavill
Absolutely love the hawk lords
Damn, you stole mine...
Hey at least someone agrees
Ever since I read their book they've been one of my favorites.
What’s the book called?
Death of Antagonis
I felt so bad for them in that book. I went as far as playing 40k D&D as a Black Dragon Tech-Marine. And somehow thanks to an Angry Marine Librarian and a saving roll I appeared before the Emperor and managed to convince him that the chapter was not heretical at all. Which he then went and basically changed the inquisition/history’s minds and made it known. That is until the damned psyker chimpanzee freaked on the librarian and set us all back to basically the very beginning of time and we were erased /)_<; I was so upset by that QAQ I know it doesn’t affect the actual lore but that tiny victory q~q somebody give these guys a hug they try so hard in their book
They really do try hard. They know they look like absolute monsters but they still do what they can. And I never got to actually PLAY my 40k DnD campaign, but I was gonna do a Black Dragons Assault Marine.
Iron hands. They seem to be the founding chapter people forget about the most.
*cries in raven guard*
When you’re main schtick is being sneaky, don’t be upset you’re not noticed
Oi! I’ll get the purple orks on you!
Hah! I haven’t seen one of those in decades, they’re obviously all de-
I may be an ork boy but I can still sniff a heretic
_Waves in White Scars as I zoom by_
...Oh yeah, these guys exist....
Nah. With iron hands taking half of the 8th edition meta. It's now hard to forget them
Yeah but aside from that they don’t really have a lot going for them. Their primarch does not have a lot of screen time, they don’t have a super interesting gimmick, and they don’t have a super striking color scheme. As someone who doesn’t really follow the competitive scene they seem like the least talked about founding chapter. The white scars and raven guard are close but one of them is based on Mongolians and has a somewhat unique color scheme (even if it is a bitch to paint) and the other has the cool helmets and is emo.
I feel this deep in my soul 😂😭
Iron hands didn't have a named character until 8th edition, and minotaurs, a iron hands successor chapter did. I love my iron boys but man were they forgotten about until they suddenly ruled the meta.
White Scars also.
My favourite legion
Iron Hands are like that one dude from Justice League.
Sons of the Phoenix
I couldn’t agree more, Skovakarak Uhl Zarûn
They are so Underrated.
They got a lot of stuff going for them. Their color scheme is blue, but not ultramarines’s patented boring blue. They defending elara’s veil basically alone since the lions went on a campaign to see how much you can poke the inquisition before an ork sniper kills you. They also have this nuance of barbarism and shamanism but not enough to compare them to the wolves or white scars. But yea they got their book and white dwarf mini-supplement (which is also kinda good) and quite a few people painting them so not completely underrated
They were on the front cover of a white dwarf issue recently and they have their own book too. So, they’ve had more recognition than most
Mantis Warriors. Their gene anomaly/quirk is just so cool. Plus the whole redemption crusade. Just makes rhem more "human" and likeable.
Came to say the Bug Boys. 123 comments and it's just us two.
Love these guys
Plus tack on how hard they got dicked over by the sharks and it makes their story much sadder.
The iron snakes lore is great. Fighting giant sea worms on rocky outcrops battered by giant waves to be initiated into the chapter.
Such an epic image
Exorcists all the way
Also terrifying shark boys
Tyberos the walking mountain of metal, teeth and death incarnate
I want a REALLY detailed model of Tyberos. I'd but it in a heartbeat
If you want a model for him major kill sells a proxy
Just got mine in today and he’s HUGE. I think on the Carcharadon subreddit, someone put a side-by-side of Majorkill’s Shark Daddy and Forgeworld’s Tyberos and its like comparing a terminator with a dreadnought
He might sell the file for 3D printers if you have one
White who? Never heard of them @[email protected]
Silver Skulls, the ABSOLUTELY 1000% ULTRAMARINES DESCENDED SUCCESSOR AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR TRUE GENESEED ORIGIN REPORT TO YOUR LOCAL INQUISITOR FOR FURTHER DETAILS
DID SOMEONE SAY IRON WARRIORS? *BLAM* Now were there any further questions?
ah yes, trazyn the infinite, the well known silver skull
My fan theory is that they \*are\* an Ultramarine's successor chapter, heretic geneseed is heresy yo, but they were founded in honour of Barabas Dantioch, the Iron Warriors loyalist warsmith who joined forces with the Ultramarines during the Heresy.
The reasonable marines strike again!
Agreed, love my Raptor army
It warms my het that someone beat me to it.
*INFILTRATE, ISOLATE, ELIMINATE.*
"Stop blindly obeying the words of the book and look at the situation. You have completed your training, but you must now learn to apply it. Regurgitation is not the answer, simple analysis and thought must be used to solve the problem!"
— Captain Maodes Karib, Raptors 5th Company
OH FUCK BABY YOURE SO PRAGMATIC *toes curl in ecstasy*
I want Primaris Lias Issodom rules
They're purple anti-heroes, what's not to love?!
Old fashioned crimson fists
As a fellow Crimson Fist player, I really can't agree with this. We've got a few books and a few short stories. We've got a fair sum of visual depiction and some chapter specific models. Plus we're one of the few medium-tier chapters to actually have published rules.
So I gave an answer like that but ... the statement is underrated not underserved.
They're Chaos, but *The Scourged* have a great gimmick and are a rare example of a Tzeentch-aligned chaos warband that aren't the Thousand Sons.
Just looked these guys up. They sound badass. How would you play them on the tabletop though, as CSM or 1k Sons? Or a mix? Ngl I kind of hate how 1k Sons push Tzeentch CSM into a very specific niche.
I guess you'd play them as CSM. That's what they look like, anyway.
Star Phantoms look fucking cool
Scythes of the Emperor
Do they have a book? They should. I loved the bit about them in emporer's spears.
Edit: just remebered the spoilers about them in that book.
The Raven Guard
They extremely underrated, the trickiest Marines to play against.
Right! Still that be tricky to play with, but it's fun most of the time. Never had an opponent who wasn't atleast a bit nervous :)
Add a Callidus Assassin. For extra CP cost and more psychological warfare. 🤣😂
No one as mention the Charcaradon Astra. Man if I could be bothered to paint my marines lol. They’d be space sharks.
Minotaurs for me
Intervene when two chapters start fighting during a major campaign. Don't pursue the one that stopped and left. Let the other one surrender and redeem themselves. Suddenly you are a bad guy and a bloodthirsty executioner.
Tired: Magnus did nothing wrong
Wired: Asterion Moloch did nothing wrong
To be fair, they didn’t leave the opportunity to surrender or escape to the remaining group. They cut off their only hope of survival, killed them to a man, and spared a handful of soldiers after they were defeated just to prove a point. They’re cool, and definitely badass, but they’re not exactly some noble force of justice.
Yes I play Admech, how could you tell?
I like the idea of them and the Black vipers (let's ignore that the viper is literally red). Are they purely lackeys?
The minotaurs are asked to confront them and realise that they are all under somebody's thumb and they should maybe rebel against this illegal control.
My number one pick too. I’d be tempted to start an army of them, except I’m already doing Fallen (not too chaosy) which hit a lot of the same points.
White scars, wich is funny cuz' it's lore accurate
You beat me to it
Lol I was surprised no one said their name yet
I think nobody said it because lamenters are one of the most popular successor chapters
Redditors dont understand the word 'underrated'.
So you want to be a death spectre... Let me just kill you and if you can will yourself back to life you're in
oh, so they’re greyjoy’s?
I know I'm double dipping here but the Mantis Warriors low-key carried the Badab War, they're awesome
Pre-retcons Mentors are really cool and unique.
Sons of Malice. https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Sons\_of\_Malice
I mean this is CSM not loyalist but The Purge. For loyalist though the Dark Krakens have an AWESOME concept!
Purge are so underwhelming in Dante
I couldn’t agree more
Space sharks for sure, never get any light and tbh i think GW should make them part of their range, well after they acc upgrade you know, the universe of 40k other than SM.
Libators. Hands down best Ultramarine Successor. Blood for the Primarch! Blood for the Emperor of Man!!
I disagree, Emperor’s Spears are so cool for being a UM successor
They have really been done over in the last few editions. I loved them when they were just that Chapter that was rumored to be using Chaos weapons against their enemies, and depriving them of their Chaos Relics.
They were Grim Dark Loyalists and I loved it. Now they are Renegades? They lost some of that tension
Back in 4th edition I build an army of them. They even had WD rules to use Deamon Weapons and I made a Chaos Banner for my command squad (the ancient was just part of the squad back then).
Then some WD issues later they printed a story where an Inquisitor commands a fleet of Grey Knights to destroy the Relictors chapter Monastery. After that I, too embraced Chaos and build a Lost and Damned army out of my Guard and Relictors. Then the 4th ed CSM Codex dropped and made that army unusable, too.
I started Orks and about a year in to 5th my group stopped playing because life (I was around 19 at that point).
Now after coming back mid 8th I don't play loyalist Marines anymore. (DE, Orks, CSM, Guard and IK, thinking about starting Tzeentch Deamons)
I remember those daemon weapon rules well
Yesss I was hoping someone already mentioned the one true underrated chapter. Still building up a force of these guys right now.
Silver skulls. Iron within, iron without!!
"Silver within, silver without" Would be funnier. :-)
Black Dragons, Carcharodons, Crimson Fists, Iron Fists, Raptors, and Storm Wardens
I would say either the charcaradons or the exicutioners chapter both are brutal as fuck honestly besides the problem children of rogal dorns gene seed the rest get no love
The mortefactors, the bone boys need some models
Check my comment, they'd be a great source for a book.
I would say Charcharodons because of Tyberos the Absolute Unit
The Star dragons and blood swords. Sure that’s two, but you can’t have one without the other.
I’m gonna say it
It’s sad but somewhat true
Nobody wants to paint that much yellow
Edit: Badab War book has an Imperial Fist in Night Camo if you are looking for a workaround.
Edit: Or was that Howling Griffins, I will have to check
I’d love to see the Rainbow Warriors getting some modern love, possibly with a slight revamp to give them a more unique flavor. Mesoamerican gets passed around a lot.
I’ve never heard of them but when I saw your comment I instantly thought of noise marine
I’d recommend checking them out, they’re one of the oldest Chapters in the game, being introduced in the original Rogue Trader. Unfortunately they never got the love that other chapters did and have kind of fallen by the wayside.
Dude id love to see them.
Yeah I’d like to see that too, to me they are the second legion
Ultramarines, and I mean this sincerely.
Forever hated because the marines on the box art happen to be painted blue and GW chose Guilliman to be the primarch to return. They're actually really cool!
I always figured they became so popular in the first place because both the Roman aestethic and Blue have a very wide appeal.
I like the paint scheme, but figured it was so widely used, I wanted to do something else.
...so I went salamanders. And then, of course, found out they're also very popular... 😏
But you can do some dope lizard stuff with them and with Ultraboyes you can't really do much creatively.
😁 well, you can probably do that - I'm a beginner, I'm lucky if the green paint ends up in the right place!
Practice makes perfect, regardless of skill you've selected an honorable Chapter that has the added benefit of being creatively open so you can do interesting things, when you're ready.
Edit; Test out crackle paint because imo that looks very good on Salamanders.
They have wide appeal. Not just cause they are on all the box art, the minis are used as the base for all other chapters, their color scheme is both vibrant and very beginner friendly, and every time a book needs some marines for the plot, they are on the short list.
I get that they have some characters and lore that is interesting and well done, but there’s also a mountain of generic vanilla “space marine” they represent.
They are basically the antithesis to this post, even if there are some cool lesser known bits.
I'm just not a fan of them since they are pretty much your stock standard good two shoes, with only a few exceptions. Lore was good till they suddenly were written back in with more then a full compliment of their army
I notice a lot of imperial fist successors here.
Exorcists all day
Carcharodons all the way bby! Failing that, I think the Sons of Malice are neat
Totally Space Sharks 🦈🦈
Howling Griffons! They even have a knightly house on their main homeworld (House Trainor, mentioned in one of the IA books). Plus the red and yellow scheme looks amazing
A cursed founding chapter that spontaneously combusted in the Emperor's holy flame. Unfortunately, a local Inquisitor had a different view on this miracle and they got purged.
They don't even have an official color scheme AFAIK :/
Iron snakes. They have some neato books and a short story where one marine is alone on a planet for 10 years fighting orks. Intentionally.
Crimson Consuls (RIP)
Dusk Raiders (Pre-Mortarion Death Guard that used combined arms)
Revenant Legion (Pre-Sanguinius Blood Angels that were beautiful and brutal vampires and cannibals which would be PERFECT villains in a book)
Well it's obvious... it has to be the ***\[All records expunged from the library\]*** and the ***\[All records expunged from the library\]***.
Guardians of the covenant
Tybros of the charcarodons.
Ultra marines barley get any love at all, ok nah I’m a serious note I’d say the shark marines they seem cool
Sons of Oror
Rainbow warriors because they have a really cool Aztec look
Black dragons, carcharadons, raptors, white scars. Yes white scars are an OG chapter. But given how rare in tabletop and minimally used in marketing, i still consider them underrated. but.. their lore and books are grade A writing. Definitely are more than just space-mongols as they get stereotyped into.
Doom Eagles obviously
Mantis warriors, White Scars
Chaos Space Marines.. Iron Warriors and Night Lords or all besides thousand sons, black legion, death guard.
I have an army of Black Dragons. They are total badasses
Honestly, the Blood Ravens. Them not getting any official tabletop support is a huge crying shame in my opinion.
***FOR THOSE WE CHERISH, WE DIE IN GLORY!***
Lamenters, of course!
Says Black Dragons. Posts picture of Dark Angel in relation to a meme about under rated chapters.
Fire Hawks! Awesome colour scheme, major role in the Badab War, and a tragic disappearance.
they were the second chapter to be described after the launch of rogue trader (after the smurf obvs) featured heavily in the early early days and then never mentioned again
they were designated the 888th chapter (but not the original 888th) and were unique in that they were never deployed as a company fighting force.
Instead squads and individuals would be dispatched to assist or lead forces. They would field test experimental weaponry and were considered elite specialist units.
I actually quite like the flesh tearers, they’re just so silly. Rainbow warriors deserve more attention. Ultramarines deserve better. They should be the Roman chapter, not the generic and bland chapter.
Sons of Medusa
The II and XI legions. Hardly anything about em!
Personally i always liked the Exrocist and Death Specters.
they get mentions at times and even rules on coccasion but no one ever talks about them
How about Lamenters?
What about the (In Rogal Dorn's voice) RANBOW WARRIORS!
Ultramarines now hear me out before you grab the pitchforks and torches.
Ultramarines really got a lot of hate before big guilliman came back and he got some good stories but before then and even now to a lesser extant some people really hate space marines which means ultramarines sadly one of my favourites, not well liked from my experience.
Ultramarines. I wish they got more love from GW and the writers ;-;
They're the best but nobody gives them enough credit. They're my guys and even I don't give then enough outside!
Bow down Smurfs! Get out Edgelord Ravens! Take a chill pill Imp Fists! The first are the boys!
Obvious trolling. I don't think any are really underrated, they all have their charms.
I hate to say it but I hate the dark angels with every bit of my soul.
As a tyranid player
So.. you have no soul. Just insatiable hunger.
White Scars. 🇲🇳🐎🏹
Hammers of Dorn, i love how much they troll the Ultramarines "the codex was written by Guilliman but it can only be mastered by a son of Dorn" 😂