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They want to be victims

They want to be victims

curbrobin

*white fragility crystalizes*


BellicoseBastard

Is that what they're calling meth nowadays?


Riptide_1828

It’s what I’m calling it now


1_10v3_Lamp

Remember when that guy said black people cant get the coronavirus live on snl? Good times


ISurvivedCrowleyHigh

Every job has necessary requirements to be qualified. If being vaccinated is one of them, and you refuse, then you've chosen to not meet those requirements. Tbh, if I was hiring people, I'd put "Must be vaccinated," in the job posting.


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ISurvivedCrowleyHigh

And those lawsuits will be lost if the jury listens to science. The below is from four days ago, if you have a credible source from the last three days, then let's see it. More than a third of COVID-19 infections result in zero protective antibodies Natural immunity fades faster than vaccine immunity Natural immunity alone is less than half as effective than natural immunity plus vaccination https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination


firstletmegethigh

This study is flawed as fook! Let me explain: Only 72 people??? Forreal?? No more needs to be said, like "come on man" (bidens voice). They used a pcr test to determine if they had covid or not. We know the pcr test isn't 100% accurate. Meaning, someone could have tested positive but never actually had covid 🤷‍♂️. But fine, whatever, this isn't as bad as 72 people! lmao 3rd: the CDC did the study. Find out who funds them. The CDC can't make the people who write their checks mad Get this misleading, fearmongering, rhetoric out of here! Ask yourself, why would an organization do everything they can to disprove the effectiveness of natural immunity? There are many studies, with thousands of people that have proven natural immunity is superior. This means more people are safe and protected, is this not the goal? So once again, WHY WOULD AN ORGANIZATION DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC ABOUT NATURAL IMMUNITY (as explained above)? Are you sure this is still about health and safety?


ISurvivedCrowleyHigh

So you have no sources then. We're supposed to believe you because why? Let me guess, you're being "super serial." Fuck off with your conspiracy bullshit. You're a fucking moron, and the species will be better off without your genes in it.


firstletmegethigh

I literally broke down the source YOU gave me Dont be mad at me, I'm not the one spreading misleading, fearmongering, rhetoric. You should feel ashamed of yourself Edit: if you want sources, check my history 🖕


ZealousidealBarber85

Ueah because joking about killing people who aren't vaxxed isn't called bullying.. its called passive aggressive death threats.bullying is much much more preffered


Ok-Mix1592

There are many forms of bullying not just physical violence or verbal abuse of which I think the tweet refers.


not_lurking_this_tim

While this is absolutely true, constant reminders and repercussions of actions are not bullying. But if you guys examples of actual bullying, post them here, call those people out


Ok-Mix1592

I would describe 'constant reminders and repercussions of actions' as harassment. Harassment and bullying are regarded as interchangable. So what your saying to me is bullying is not bullying. Isn't what your saying an oxymoron?


not_lurking_this_tim

Harassment is not bullying


Ok-Mix1592

No but they are regarded as interchangable. If the harassment has a veiled threat or repercussions I think it would just class as bullying anyway. I'd rather not have a somatic argument with a rando.


Ok_Butterscotch9590

For real man.


Significant_Ad7895

Yes, yes, yes.


hacimpascy

Facts lol


NN_besomething_iWish

Some people are getting bullied into getting it. If you're getting made to do something against your will, threatening with consequences. Its bullying


52_pickup_limes

Oh no, consequences 🙄


NN_besomething_iWish

Getting fired can be a pretty bad consequence for some.


52_pickup_limes

It sure can be, but people who are getting fired are CHOOSING not to get vaccinated and companies are firing them for not following policy. It’s their own fault if they are getting fired for not getting vaccinated. So, like you said, it’s a consequence, but not bullying because they still have a choice. Nobody is being forced to get the vaccine they’re just being incentivized to get it.


Nixavee

If not getting it means losing your livelihood I would say that qualifies as being forced.


52_pickup_limes

Nope, just facing consequences for a decision that will likely harm other people.


Nixavee

I’m not defending them. I don’t think it’s necessarily wrong to force them to take the COVID vaccine in this way. We could argue about the precise definition of “forced” forever, so there is no reason to continue. In my opinion it is reasonable to say that something that someone is required to do in order to meet their basic survival needs is something they are “forced” to do. If you disagree with that that’s fine


zbrown1993

Yeah that’s not bullying. Being bullied is when someone is putting you down and making you feel worthless over either something you have no control over or because of things you enjoy. Deciding not to get vaccinated is neither of those things, just selfish people being selfish.


NN_besomething_iWish

Being forced to do something against your will with threat of looming consequences is bullying. If i said you better pet that fucking chicken or im going to curb stomp your head into cherry pie. I just bullied you into petting a chicken.


zbrown1993

No one is using violence against you for not getting the vaccine. The government is restricting people’s access to certain goods and allowing businesses to do likewise if you decided to not get vaccinated. It’s still illegal to assault people regardless of vaccination status


NN_besomething_iWish

Ok. So if I said you better pet that fucking chicken or I will never let you wear footwear ever again. Its not violence, but still bullying at its core. I would be bullying you into petting the chicken. Which you wouldn't do, be it not for the consequence I would impose on you.


zbrown1993

If me petting the chicken would save other people from dying then yes.


NN_besomething_iWish

It doesnt matter the circumstance or conditions being asked. Its still bullying at its core is my point.


zbrown1993

Is it bullying to arrest and jail someone for drunk driving? Is it bullying to arrest someone for going into a public space and shooting off a gun? No it’s not. It’s called protecting the public safety. Same thing with vaccine mandates. You wanna endanger your fellow humans? Have fun not getting to do shit you wanna do.


NN_besomething_iWish

Its interesting how people will assume things based on what was said. I never said I dont think laws are necessary, or that people shouldn't be vaccinated, or that I want people to shoot guns off randomly. I simply stated that the vaccine mandate, and literally all other laws are a form of bullying. Nothing more nothing less. You can call it what you want, protecting the public, bullying, it can have more than one view Like getting your dick sucked and getting a blowjob. Same shit different name


Decker1138

Choices have consequences, that's life.


-Mycol-

By that logic it is bullying to stop people from bringing guns on airplanes. It sounds like you’re the exact person he was talking about


NN_besomething_iWish

It is bullying. Laws are literally people being bullied into submission.


-Mycol-

So you think we should be allowed to bring guns on to airplanes. Cool, good to know.


NN_besomething_iWish

Its interesting how people will assume things based on what was said. I never said I dont think laws are necessary, or that people shouldn't be vaccinated, or that I want people to bring guns on planes. I simply stated that the vaccine mandate, and literally all other laws are a form of bullying. Nothing more nothing less.


-Mycol-

Your initial premise is flawed though. That is not what bullying is. Bullying has to have intent to harm, which is not the purpose of laws. Saying that they are just makes you sounds like an angst filled 14 year old.


NN_besomething_iWish

Bullying doesn't need to intend harm. If I said go to college, or im going to fling feces in your face. I still bullied you to go to college. Forcing someone to do something against their will, with the threat of consequence if they dont, is bullying. And thats all im saying


-Mycol-

But that is too loose of a definition. What you just said is bullying, but then so would a parent saying a child doesn’t get to have dessert if they don’t clean their room. The parent isn’t bullying their child


NN_besomething_iWish

Except they are bullying their child. Bullying isnt a complete negative, sometimes its necessary and can be positive


-Mycol-

I understand what you are saying, but I don’t think that bullying is the best word to describe that situation. If that was the case, everything with a consequence would be bullying. And that diminishes how bad actual bullying can be and makes every day cause and effect sound like abuse.


Unblued

Stop trying to reverse the circumstances. Employers are requiring their workers to get vaccinated as a condition for working there. Employees aren't being forced to do anything. They're free to leave and look for a job somewhere else. Not having a job is their own self imposed consequence.