Didn't Know These Were Still Flying!
By - keenly_disinterested
When they were first removed from frontline service, they were shown at their hangar lineup and were being kept for possible future use. Then there were rumors of them being around Area 51and Tonopah. Then when they started being sent to museums, government hinted they were out of service. Then they started showing up in daytime in Nevada, now flying out of Fresno in dissimilar combat training. Pretty lively for a retired aircraft.
Damn, i just moved out of Fresno 2 years ago.
Snip-snap, snip-snap, snip-snap
Yeah turns out it's a great OpFor aircraft.
I feel sorry for the adversary pilot in an F-117 charged with dissimilar air combat training against, well, anything.
They've never stopped flying, they just don't fly in combat...... As far as us mere mortals know.
F22 can’t carry it internally
F35A and C can carry a 2k store internal
I’m betting it’s air to air combat training vs gen 5 semi stealth trash, coming out of Russia and China with the felon and j20
A secret stealth jet tells you it is retiring…
Idk, I feel they probably kept flying them even in combat. But I am only a mere mortal so I will never know.
They’re obsolete at this point. The F-35 can do all of the same stuff, and more.
The f-35 will always be inferior at looking like a ufo.
Okay, but uh, damn that’s good, but, uH, is it as cool looking?
F-35 can carry 1 GBU-31 in both weapons bays.
The War Zone has had a number of good write ups over the years following the F117's. Most recent - [https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42498/stealthy-f-117-nighthawks-have-been-masquerading-as-cruise-missiles-air-force-confirms](https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42498/stealthy-f-117-nighthawks-have-been-masquerading-as-cruise-missiles-air-force-confirms)
+1 for those guys. Great balance and in-depth reporting and Tyler fucking loves the Nighthawk lol.
The warzone is my daily read.
The F-117 is the most studied and understood radar cross-section in the military's arsenal. It is used to support test activities with other platforms. Primarily radar testing.
I read they've been standing in as "cruise missiles" during trainings. Close enough radar CS and performance to the real thing but cheaper to operate.
I'm not at liberty to discuss this further.
I could tell ya, but then I'd have to kill ya.
same here cause i have no fucking clue mate
Then why the fuck did you post
I see you're not capable of reading sarcasm online.
Awww I thought this was funny
I think they're also using it because the RCS comparable to adversary fighter jets.
Even at its worst the F-117 has an RCA orders of magnitude better than any adversary plane. The Su-57, probably the closest non-US plane to proper stealth, is estimated at around 1m^2 frontal RCS - similar to a clean, new F-18. The F-117 is closer to 1cm^2, if that. However, it is a good plane to use to train against stealth.
According to www.af.mil: An F-117 Nighthawk lands at the Fresno Yosemite International Airport, Calif., after conducting a training mission with the local Air National Guard unit Sept. 15, 2021. Two F-117 pilots were participating in dissimilar air combat training missions with F-15 pilots from the 144th Fighter Wing. (U.S. Air National Guard photo by Capt. Jason Sanchez)
I wonder how old the youngest F-117 pilot currently is.
Supposedly one landed in Kuwait not that long ago after an IFE.
Confirmed. Here is the story:
"flying" is a generous term for the wobblin goblin
I laughed out load to this!
I love that term for it. Thank God fly by wire because I'm sure no pilot can legit fly this brick without a flight computer keeping it in the air
They've kept a few going for spooky stuff is what I've heard.
Well I think they land between missions 😂
The pilots flying these planes are so lucky!
Isn’t that kinda the point of stealth aircraft?
What still flying? I don’t see anything…
As a Serb i can confirm there is a F117 in that picture.
I still think its cool that the stink bug pilot and the SAM commander who fired the missile are still friends.
Just a white box, did this picture not load for anyone else?
I think it's the fastest flying pigeon in history
Officially, they are not.
Cats out of the bag now, they have been landing in daylight in major metro areas in Cali lately (Fresno, Navy North Island area) and they are on the front page of [af.mil](https://af.mil) lol.
Right, they're like 35 years old now?
F22 is 20 years old and is still miles ahead of anything else out there. Old does not necessarily mean obsolete
The B-52 is over 70 years old. What’s your point?
sometimes a design is just that good at what it needs to do
USAF Public Affairs ran a story about their recent training in Fresno. It’s official enough.
Is the front gear not centered or is it just my eyes / perspective?
they weren't officially until they were spotted at FAT last week afaik
They using em as Aggressors to teach pilots how to detect stealth planes
Ah yes, Darth Nighthawk.
I can’t believe that thing flew in the first place! It’s a tri-corner hat made of LEGO’s!
This is one of my all time favorite jets. It’s such an oddity and so cool. I love the F-117 and always will, kinda like the A-10, just so ugly it’s magnificent.
I've read this, too - that the F-117's stealth capabilities is a close enough match for the current near-peers' crafts making it useful for some training exercises. I don't know about dog fighting, though. The F-117's weren't designed for that and are probably pretty easy to out maneuver.
The "F" shouldn't be there to begin with, but "stealth fighter" sounds a lot cooler than "small subsonic tactical stealth bomber." It doesn't even have the basic capabilities of a normal ground attack aircraft.
I'm not sure that a true stealth fighter existed anywhere before the F-22, and I think the F-35 is the first stealth plane with real ground attack capability.
The F-22 has ground attack capability but it’s by no means a bomb truck
Saw them working as Agressors in Miramar a little more than a year ago.
Certain flight tests only I believe.
What was still flying? Op has a nice photo of the sky there.
I think they are used to simulate adversary stealth aircraft for aggressor training.
There have always been clouds😂
It's design is working then, isn't it? 😉. Apologies, I'll see myself out.