No way Bo just lost an Emmy to "Hamilton"😐
By - tavon1220
Eh. Three outta six ain’t bad.
True. But said another way.
No way a recording of a stage play from 6 years ago that was released on a streaming service won an Emmy over... Anything actually made in this year for the format being judged.
I thought he got 4??
He won 3. I thought he was only nominated for 4, but I don’t know
I was thinking he was nominated for 7 and won 4. It must’ve been a dream. Haha! I’m just glad he’s being recognized on this scale for his work. Next stop, Grammies! 🤘
That funny feeling
Think about it this way - Yes, Bo lost but the fact he’s even being talked about in the same conversation as Hamilton. A big ass major full length musical made by hundreds of people taking many years is put right next to a film made by one guy in a year and a half. That is insane.
Well think about it this way - Inside was a complete and well thought out project that was intended to be released as a special. Hamilton is a musical that’s been out for 6 years and has already won many awards. Inside was beat out by a stage recording of a musical that was released during the pandemic so people could still see it
I fucking love Hamilton. But Inside should have won.
Who cast these votes!? If only I could've been in the room where it happened.
hate that reference LMAO
Hamilton was an amazing work of art folks. It’s disappointing, but let’s not let tribalism overtake reactions to this. Bo’s nomination was very big in its own right, and sharing the nominee list with the works that Inside is a major step for Burnham.
Hamilton was an astounding piece. Inside was an astounding piece. Both of those statements can be true.
Hamilton already got its spot in the sun at the tonys years ago. Just because they decided to record it with a camera doesn’t make it deserving of an Emmy.
Their recording and production of it for streaming to the masses exposed the work to such a huge and diverse audience as compared to those who would have seen it live on a stage. I don’t think it’s fair to dismiss that.
Again I was rooting for Inside, and I’m disappointed it didn’t win. I can’t be mad at Hamilton though.
I'm not mad at Hamilton.
I'm mad at Disney.
Get mad at the aging Emmy voters who don't watch half the things that are nominated and vote mostly by what they've heard of.
Mad why? Legitimately curious. I think the theatrical release was, whilst being created for commercial purposes (as was Inside — it wasn’t done for free), a truly great work of art.
Would I have voted for Inside over it? Yes. But I’m curious at what Disney has done here specifically that’s worth ire.
Hamilton was recorded over 3 days in 2016. Then it sat on a shelf for 5 years.
I'd be mad at Bethesda if Skyrim won game if the year every time they released the exact same game on a new platform.
Agatha all along? Hamilton? Disney's influence is real. A bop "in the styling of" isn't that original and a play recorded to video. Cool.
That Skyrim analogy put into words what I have been struggling to express. Thank you.
Right there with "does the D+ re-release deserve fresh Grammys?"
Dont get me wrong, I have ALL the questions.
I guess the skyrim analogy helps validate the legitimacy of being upset. I don't wanna come off as a butthurt salty fanboi when there's a real reason to feel betrayed.
Can we get new "butthurt salty fanboi" flair? Hahaha.
At work, we have a shelf for all the glasses that don't fit with their other sizes/shapes that we call the "nasty little fuccboi shelf" it makes me laugh so much.
The Grammy's question was further validation of this "can we recycle old media and call it new with literally no changes to the original format other than the delivery channel it was put on?"
You think exposure is art? An award winning addition to what it was awarded for years ago? It's worth dismissing because it isn't a variety special. It's a musical/play and it has been awarded for being a musical/play.
I think exposure and release dates are absolutely critical, yes. The nominees must be things released in the past year within a certain time window (both Inside and Hamilton fit this bill), and must be things that are actually released. You could create the greatest work of art ever imagined and it wouldn’t mean anything, as far as the public is concerned, if it’s never seen.
Saying that the theatrical release of Hamilton is ‘just’ a ‘musical/play’ is underselling the engineering and artistry that was required to translate the work to the screen.
Not mad at Hamilton, I’m mad at the people who make these decisions. Hamilton is great, but Inside was true art created by a true artist. It’s the same feeling I get when some corporate album written by 10s of people and sung with auto tune gets a Grammy over someone like Beck who creates every moment of his work.
Also as many other people have pointed out, Hamilton is years old, it has no place winning anything in 2021
I think that Hamilton is true art created by a true artist, but I don't think the less than creative years-old recording of that true art should be up against original content.
Arguing that Hamilton isn’t art created by an artist (LMM is a genius in his own right) is a tough sell. The creation date is a valid argument, but I think its release last year to a massive audience that otherwise wouldn’t have seen it shouldn’t be overlooked either.
Yeah I’m definitely wrong in the first respect, Lin Manuel is fantastic and I’m not trying to undercut what he did with Hamilton. I still think that what is essentially re-release (same material different medium) has no place in this years awards ceremony though. Honestly both pieces are amazing works of art, I’m just bummed that Bo didn’t get the recognition he deserved for an extremely timely masterpiece. Easily the greatest pandemic commentary that exists
I’m bummed too. I think the nomination is a huge recognition though, and he won in multiple other categories, so I don’t see it as a snub. But it would have been awesome.
Oh didn’t know he won other categories! Good for Bo
"pc load letter"? ...the fuck does that mean??
Michael Bolton?.. Like the singer?
Who gives a shit? Setting aside that Hamilton was a worthy opponent for Inside, Emmys don’t determine the value of a piece of art. Inside is a masterpiece regardless of any award vote
Anyone who thought they would give him this over Hamilton just hasn’t been paying attention. That would require it to be judged n art and not just a popularity contest.
I really wanted Bo to win, but Hamilton is fantastic. If you haven’t seen it yet I suggest you do.
No no. I agree that Hamilton is a fantastic play. But... It's a play. It won Tony's for being a fantastic play. It wasn't fantastic television... It was a pre-recorded play released on a streaming service. They didn't change anything about it for the format at hand. It was the original format.
2017 me had already sang all of the songs and shed all of the tears from Hamilton. It's already 2021, Bo deserved this one.
In 2006 I discovered Les Mis, that doesn’t mean that because I cried my heart out to on my own when I was 10/11 it is any less relevant or heartbreaking. It was written in 1980s that doesn’t make it anyone’s least favourite lol. When the concert recording came out 15 years after it was released snd the 20th royal Albert hall version in 2005, they both were nominated because of their own right. The cinematography of Hamilton was great and gave a new dimension to the stage performance than you could have gotten from sitting in the gods. I am so glad Hamilton got released when it did. Both inside snd Hamilton are forces of greatness
I don’t disagree, just saying Hamilton is a great piece of work. Trying to process this just like everyone else haha.
i LOVE hamilton, but bo was def robbed im sad
Bo vs Lin
Ain’t no way we’re discrediting fucking Hamilton rn, one of the most important musicals of the decade
uh, take a fucking chill pill. i love hamilton and have watched it multiple times. But a musical filmed in 2016 won over one of the most influential pieces of art of THIS time and decade. Bo deserved the Emmy, simple.
musically hamilton is better than inside i will not elaborate
bo didn't have the help of a fuckin orchestra, he did produced everything himself. but no i understand ur compelling arguement of one man vs an orchestra
I wish Hamilton would choke on a dick
He was shot, is that good enough?
Tbh I really did not like inside at all, it was so obnoxious but so was hamilton.