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SilverRoyce

Reminder for no Doctor Strange 2 spoilers or Thor 4 spoilers. "\>!spoiler tag!< you can't have spaces between ! and start/end of spoiler


ProtoMan79

I’m surprised the Guardians were barely in the trailer. Wonder if they’re in the movie much.


AGOTFAN

They are probably only in the first 10/15 minutes.


ProtoMan79

I could see some whining on “not enough Guardians” if people coming into it expecting to see them more. Just like people who thought Mutants were going to be introduced in MoM. lol


Zepanda66

People should think of their cameo as like an extended trailer for vol 3 imo it works better that way.


breakfastbenedict

The trailers have really not featured them much so idk why people would expect that.


AGOTFAN

I mean, some MCU fans are just batshit insane. They expected Tom Cruise Superior Iron Man in DS2 even though there was *nothing* in the trailer that showed Iron Man, let alone Tom Cruise. Then they got disappointed when he does not appear in DS2, and so talk shit on the net about the movie.


Batman903

The problem with cameos and fan service is that people never stop. They just want more and more each movie


TacoParasite

My friend didn't like MoM because he said Tom Cruise wasn't in it as Iron Man. That was his biggest complaint. I love the MCU, but goddamn does it have some shitty fans, with terrible expectations. I've stopped reading most threads about castings, theories or anything related to upcoming Marvel movies or shows because people just make up stuff to get angry about. People were saying that Gorr would be showing up at the end of Moon Knight..


Spider-Padre

I think they give Thor a lift to the rugged work-out planet, Quill gives him a little pep talk (hence the joke about Thor thinking Quill was talking about *him*, when he's going on about love), and they are on their way.


Vadermaulkylo

I'm guessing they're in the first 20 mins then return for about the final 20 mins.


ILoveRegenHealth

So that pixelated ass shot (never thought I'd say that for a Marvel movie) will likely be unpixelated in the actual movie, right? Because it will look weird if they keep it pixelated. I believe you're allowed one ass shot for PG-13, 3 shits and 1 fuck (I made up those numbers)


NotTaken-username

It will most likely be unpixelated in the movie. And you can say shit as many times as you want I think in PG-13


Block-Busted

If it's actually unpixelated in the film, then I will have to conclude that Taika Waititi's PG-13-rated films are more crude than James Gunn's PG-13-rated films. I mean, **Thor: Ragnarok** contained a blatant orgy reference.


French__Canadian

Starlord, in GotG, said there's so much jizz on the spaceship's walls that if you used a uv light, the whole thing would look like a Pollock painting.


Block-Busted

Yeah, but people might not get it at first. Case in point, me.


paximperius

I was the only one who laughed out loud in the theater. That made for a very awkward date night explanation later.


NotTaken-username

Both Guardians of the Galaxy movies had lots of swearing, many sexual innuendoes, and a whole conversation about a character’s penis size


MIAxPaperPlanes

“ "Filthy? She has no idea. If we had a blacklight, it would look like a Jackson Pollock painting”


Block-Busted

Yes, but most of those innuendos weren't as noticeable as what we saw in **Thor: Ragnarok**.


Omegamanthethird

That's true, they had a full conversation about the orgy ship. Although the "hide the zucchini" line from Stark is more obscene in that it forces imagery into my mind. You could say the same about the Jack Pollock line in Guardians (even if it's more subtle).


ScratchyBallsack

*Oh my God the hammer tugged you off!*


AGOTFAN

*You rode a hammer?* *No, I didn't ride the hammer.* *The hammer rode you on your back?* *No. I used to spin it really fast, and it would pull me off the...* *Oh, my God. A hammer pulled you off?*


Sckathian

Why aren't people getting its not pixelated because their trying not to be explicit - its a gag.


breakfastbenedict

I mean there clearly some kind of orgy during filming of this movie so.. wouldn't be surprised if it was a horny PG13 movie.


Block-Busted

Umm... what...?


breakfastbenedict

oh i guess you missed those paparazzi pics lol


TastyLaksa

Link?


breakfastbenedict

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/taika-waititi-rita-ora-tessa-083747263.html


TastyLaksa

The man fucks.


breakfastbenedict

I mean we saw Hulk's ass so


ILoveRegenHealth

I forgot about that. Taika has certainly been consistent.


Erdago

There’s probably a bit of a difference between a giant green monster and a regular human from the MPA’s perspective.


breakfastbenedict

That Anya Taylor Joy version of Emma was rated PG and had butt shots of that guy.


Worthyness

I think the MPAA is fine with male butts in PG-13, but not female butts.


breakfastbenedict

I think they’re fine in a non sexual context just like the single use of an f bomb


schebobo180

I find this kind of funny. Male bare ass is ok, but female bare ass is too far? I’m guessing part of it is that most of the MPAA are probably old dudes, whose thought process is that male ass = funny situation, female ass = sexy situation. Come to think of it, I have never seen a movie have a women with her ass hanging out just for a joke.


Pinewood74

Without a comedic female ass it's impossible to know the full rationale, but i always thought it was similar to the F-word in that intent was relevant.


monsieurxander

You're not far off. The documentary This Film is Not Yet Rated goes into the reasonings for a ton of double standards. Memberships skews older... They're supposed be parents of children between 5 and 17, but plenty stay on well after their children grow up. And they have input from religious leaders. Rating depictions of female nudity/pleasure more harshly than male was one of the big double standards they went into.


RajyavardhanSingh029

What?


Celeborn2001

I'm pretty sure we also got a female ass shot in that movie too—in front of the the fireplace if I remember correctly.


ContinuumGuy

That's no regular human, that's the GOD OF THUNDER


Bowler_300

Gimme the real God of Thunders ass. Natalie Swoleman.


Chuck006

We saw Hugh Jackman's ass in Days of Future Past.


lobonmc

That was Sakaar's ass


Rman823

I’m expecting it’ll be similar to what we saw recently with Channing Tatum in The Lost City (also PG-13).


eidbio

The pixels actually fit with the movie tone. But yeah, it would still be PG-13 like Days of Future Past, which had Wolverine's bare ass.


PainStorm14

They pixelated too hard, dammit!!!


bigbelleb

It was pixelated for youtube ass guidelines to avoid limiting ads WWE youtube channel does this alot with blood or chair shots being edited in their match uploads


subhuman9

ass isn't nudity , no limits


123steveyc123

I got the vibe that people were watching that gladiator event from home and it was censored on tv. Like he rips his pants off, it pans to an alien family watching a censored version being broadcast… the guardians see on a tiny tv from their ship… the whole world gasps simultaneously. Then it cuts back to Thor from the waste up in real time. 🤷🏻‍♂️


robotslendahand

The "fuck" number is correct. You're allowed one non-sexual utterance of the word.


uhaul26

No,that’s right according to my high school girlfriend.


run-on_sentience

1 (non-sexual) fuck.


fuxoft

In a PG-13 movies, you are allowed one "fuck" (but not as a reference to sex) and unlimited "shits".


baribigbird06

Chris Hemsworth’s ass is going to push this over $1B.


fivethousandhamsters

Pshh, Natalie Portman's muscles will take this to at least 40 morbillion dollars.


ILoveRegenHealth

Biceps, bare ass and (God) butchers


topdangle

I will pay good money to marvel if this trend of jacked women continues


Carlos_CP

She looked so strong while morbin in morbius


[deleted]

I think so. Not a marvel fan but I'm gonna watch this shit.


BettmansDungeonSlave

Chadmé


Jlx_27

In another shot her arms are thinner, looks like her muscles have been digitally enhanced.


French__Canadian

This is ~~America~~ Argard's ass.


lordatlas

> This is America Argard's ass. What on earth is "Argard"?


crusty_jugglers93

Christian Bale as Gorr looks cooler then I was expecting.


Luxpreliator

I was really hoping they didn't cgi the shit out of it when the cast was announced and looks to be pleasantly surprised.


crusty_jugglers93

Yeah it’s the makeup but having his scenes looking like it might play all out in black and white gives his character a nice aesthetic as well.


emong757

This July, it'll be Thor vs. Batman.


ContinuumGuy

What of E.T.?


Worthyness

Fine.


-o-_______-o-

They probably don't want Hemsworth to look average compared to E.T., with that sexy bulbous head and exquisite long feet...


lobonmc

Why does super pets releason on July?


Xenovore

MARTHA


hatecopter

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!


DarthTaz_99

Thor: I don't want to fight you Batman. Batman: I wouldn't want to fight me neither.


NotTaken-username

Multiverse of Madness might not have made a billion. This will


ROBtimusPrime1995

The lighter & funnier tone will lend itself to more rewatches compared to how spooky DS2 got in it's 2nd act. I agree that this could reach a billion if it nails its tone just like **'Ragnarok'**.


DarthTaz_99

Given Taika's track record this will be a crowd pleaser. Add to that how much Thor's popularity increased and Jane Thor and Christian fking Bale, looks set to be a billion


samueljbernal

I don't think Bale will factor at all in the general audience, he has makeup in his face, doesn't do promo to any of his movies and his character is not known to even comic fans, maybe it factors a little but just that


AGOTFAN

Lol Christian Bale is already trending on Twitter and other social media.


samueljbernal

Twitter is only the general audience when it's convinient to you


topdangle

most popular comment on youtube is about bale in a movie with a stacked cast. that's pretty mainstream


lobonmc

>his character is not known to even comic fans I can kind of agree with the rest but WTF with this he was the main villain in one of the most famous and most acclaimed arcs in recent thor history he definitively is well know by comic fans. Now the problem is that comic fans are such a minority that they may as well be a non factor.


xmarianix

He literally played batman


PCGAMERNOW

I don't think this is true. I have friends who don't care for Marvel but wanna see this because they love Bale. He is a huge selling point for casuals.


007Kryptonian

He’s the most acclaimed/well known Batman, and him playing a sick Marvel villain will definitely draw a good amount of people in. Plus, you can clearly recognize him in a couple of shots.


Lachrondizzle23

Batman is a Marvel baddy?? I think it factors


AGOTFAN

Michael Keaton approved.


10thDoctorHairGel

It’s crazy. I don’t think I’d ever have thought watching any of TW’s work even right before the Thor movies that he’d be putting some top 20 ever grossing movies under his belt in a few years. Just says a lot about putting the right people with the right material and trusting them.


breakfastbenedict

Out of all the MCU directors, I think he clearly has been the biggest benefactor of playing their game. Absolutely no way Jojo Rabbit gets made before Ragnarok and whatever non-franchise movie he does next will be on his own terms.


10thDoctorHairGel

Excellent point. These movies also lead studios to take chances they maybe wouldn’t on some talent. Evans and Knives Out is maybe another example of that.


WhiteWolf3117

I think Johnson and TLJ were a bigger factor for Knives Out.


10thDoctorHairGel

I don’t know. TLJ was so controversial but Knives Out overcame that. I’m not sure that was b/c of Johnson’s involvement. I don’t see a lot of intersection between Star Wars fans and people who would see Knives Out.


WhiteWolf3117

This is…frankly, a very odd take. Why would a studio be willing to take the chance with Evans, who creatively had nothing to do with the film, and not the director? It’s literally the same situation as Taika. How is there small overlap between Star Wars fans and Knives Out but not Marvel fans. It’s basically the same group of people, lol.


10thDoctorHairGel

I’m a fan of both and there are lots of people who don’t like both but I guess I meant more the general BO. I don’t think there are a lot of, for lack of a better term, normies who’d jump at Knives Out because of Star Wars but there are a lot more normies who’d see it because they liked Captain America or James Bond. Does that make sense?


breakfastbenedict

Also he has two hit TV shows on FX (subsidiary of disney now) and all his future indie projects will likely be supported by Searchlight. I wonder if his adaptation of The Incal will end up going to the main 20th Century branch, but if that happens then him playing the game with Disney will be more than worth it for him creatively.


Erdago

Yeah, Ragnarok already made $850 Million, and this will have a sequel boost with it’s goodwill plus Thor’s strong appearance in Infinity War.


nguyenkhoi282

no china though


Erdago

That hurts a bit, but there’s going to be enough gains in other territories to make up for that loss.


TheHoon

Not saying your wrong but Thor Ragnorak also made 20m in Russia, so that's another loss.


colder-beef

Why no China?


icefire9

I doubt any Marvel movie will be released in China again. Seems like the CCP felt that Marvel was getting too culturally influential and overshadowing Chinese movies. They want control over what their people see and think, and don't want foreign influences 'corrupting' their population.


colder-beef

Man that sucks


007Kryptonian

100%. It’s also going to be a phenomenal film according to internal screenings, not to mention Taika’s track record. Edited for clarification on the screenings


breakfastbenedict

what test screenings? marvel doesn't test to the public only internally


007Kryptonian

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/tzu45u/thor_love_and_thunder_test_screened_internally/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf The leaker who posted this is only second to ViewerAnon in terms of reliability. Plus I definitely believe it given Taika’s coming off winning an Academy Award and delivering one of the most praised MCU entries.


breakfastbenedict

I mean I don't doubt Taika will make a crowdpleasing movie, its just weird hearing about Marvel test screenings when they are usually so airtight about that stuff


silentlycold

Doctor Strange had a ton of leaks.


breakfastbenedict

I guess I managed to dodge them but when else have we heard test screening info about MCU films?


WhiteWolf3117

Pretty much all of phase 4 has been like this.


Nightwing_in_a_Flash

It’s because since covid all of these movies have been sent to 4-5 different vfx houses to get finished on time, that’s much more chances for things to leak. Footage of Gorr was already being sent around to different people a few weeks ago.


silentlycold

The plots for Endgame, Eternals, and Spider-Man: No Way Home all leaked ahead of time.


zxHellboyxz

Has the film had reshoots ?


samueljbernal

I don't remember any test screening for this movie, and the MCU only makes them with family members and Disney employees so it's not really useful anyways (the movie looks great brw)


Financial-Series-985

wait for reviews first


AGOTFAN

I mean, even Eternals, a movie with no previous MCU heroes, with bad reviews and released in much worse environment still grossed $400 million.


Erdago

I’d be surprised if the reviews were bad enough to cause an issue; his previous films have generally been well liked by critics and I don’t see any reason this will deviate heavily.


Lord_Raiden

I'm just here for Natalie's arms.


Bowler_300

So say we all.


RenTSmith

Christian bale as the villain will be epic


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Erdago

He had three solo films for shirtless shots; they needed something else to up the stakes.


lobonmc

He really looks ripped on this one


AGOTFAN

Buffed Hemsworth v buffed Portman. Will there be an uncut version? Would love to see it.


Justice1993

After JoJo Rabbit, I will never doubt Taika. That was one of the best directed & written films I’ve ever seen. This should be phenomenal and Christian Bale looks FANTASTIC!! I was worried based on set photos but holy shit, they knocked it out of the park.


irrealewunsche

I ignored JoJo when it came out because the reviews were so lukewarm. Was bored about a year later, so put the film on to kill some time, and wow - it was as quirky, warm hearted, and wonderful as I could have hoped!!


darko2309

150 Ow. 400 Dom. 1 bil WW.


DancingChromosome

Jane looks absolutely gorgeous 😻 I’m predicting $1.2 billion for now if it has good reviews I think this will make more than MoM.


AGOTFAN

I've met Nathalie Portman in person when I was working as a server during my college days. She and her two friends dined in our restaurant. A lovely person, she smiled and said thank you. Of course I tried to pretend I didn't know her although I wanted to scream and hug her.


nicolasb51942003

Lucky you.


AGOTFAN

She looked beautiful in real life, even without make-up. Her face was radiant. I still remember it even though that was *years* ago.


TastyLaksa

What like 3 or 4 years?


fivethousandhamsters

You know that if someone's good looking asf if they can pull off being bald.


Vadermaulkylo

Honestly idk. Without China, Thor Ragnarok makes about 700m. I'm thinking this one may struggle to hit 1 bil if it does.


DancingChromosome

That’s true. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see


Block-Busted

Is it just me, or is some part of the film in black-and-white?


breakfastbenedict

I think Christian Bale's planet or whatever is monochromatic?


Block-Busted

And Thor seems to be in black-and-white in some shots as well. Any idea why that is?


breakfastbenedict

Maybe it's like Pleasantville. You enter his planet you turn b&w


Block-Busted

So rather than the tonal experimentation like they went with **Eternals** or **Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness**, Marvel is going for a visual experimentation with this one.


metros96

I mean, both of those films I think were also visual deviations from what had been typical in the MCU, but absolutely, playing with grayscale and color scene-to-scene and stuff like that is not something we’ve seen much of in MCU films.


Block-Busted

Oh, the visual experimentation is even more blatant for this one, for sure.


metros96

I mean, playing with color is one aspect of “visual experimentation” is all I’m saying. And it seems like it’s only a thing they’re doing in that one scene so far?


Block-Busted

Can't say for sure, but I have a feeling that we'll see quite bit of scenes in black-and-white in this film. Also, what if those scenes are actually in 1.43:1 aspect ratio in IMAX?


metros96

Eternals has shots that are in 1.43


JJoanOfArkJameson

Imo Eternals is not a tonal experimentation. it's just a drawn-out, charisma-free slog that forgets how integral fun actors are to the MCU. The formula is laid out bare with longer stretches of pretension and faux-arthouse visuals in between


AGOTFAN

Further confirm MCU experimental era!


Block-Busted

Wow. **Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings** somehow looks GENERIC by comparison now. I think even **Black Widow** was more noticeably experimental than that by trying out a more drama-heavy film.


NotTaken-username

I’d say WandaVision had its fair share of visual experimentation. The first two episodes were black and white. It and Multiverse of Madness both had brief 2D animated sequences as well


Block-Busted

True, but keep in mind that **WandaVision** is a TV series and with **Multiverse of Madness**, that hand-drawn animated sequence was very brief. Here, however, those black-and-white scenes are actually some of the selling points of this film.


lobonmc

Probably a consequence of the necrosword


Geler

Those shots are on his planet.


KentuckyFriedEel

The Gorr character sees things in black and white, figuratively speaking


Worthyness

The sword in the comics can bend reality to a certain extent. Usually flashes black and white. I wager that's what's going on in the movie


Block-Busted

Either way, Marvel is taking bolder directions on Phase 4 for certain.


sprenlight

Yes, and it looks so good. Kudos to the cinematographer.


Block-Busted

So before **Oppenheimer**, we might have **Thor: Love and Thunder** as the first film that have black-and-white IMAX scenes. Granted, this film wasn't shot with IMAX cameras, but still.


NotTaken-username

Will Oppenheimer be completely black and white or just some scenes?


7ujmnbvfr456yhgt

I'm betting black and white but the nuke goes off in color


Block-Busted

I'm genuinely curious about that, actually. Set photos are in color (obviously), but still images(?) that we saw so far are in black-and-white - at least I thought they were. :P


Jazzlike-Patience557

Does IMAX certified count as imax cameras? I'm a bit confused over the designations. All MCU films post Eternals says Filmed for IMAX and are shot with certified for imax cameras. So does that count as real imax?


Block-Busted

Not exactly. Those films are classified as “Filmed for IMAX”.


fivethousandhamsters

Damn. Taika did not and will not disappoint.


cheesyry

Yuuup, this one is gonna be BIG. Trailer looks fantastic. Guessing it will open less than Doctor Strange 2 (maybe around 150 mil ow), but will end up making more total worldwide (guessing 1.1 bil+)


lobonmc

Christian bale looks awesome as Gorr and this looks so inventive on the cinematography I'm so excited


nicolasb51942003

Thor's first billion dollar movie, here we come!


Purple_Quail_4193

That’s no moon, that’s America’s friend’s ass


michaelm1345

Damn Jane looks good😍also Gorr looks terrifying I can’t wait to see Bale’s performance


Mugiwara116

This looks fun and audience friendly. Will probably have lower DOM OW than MoM but with better legs. I expect the same for its International numbers.


agutema

SWEET CHILD OF MINE!!!! Ok but for real this is going to be THE summer blockbuster.


icefire9

I'm shook. Looks like this will be amazing!


Hat-Wearer

So are they going to keep that one scene blurred in the movie or do we get to see some Thunder buns?


TheIntrigued2

Finally, I can no longer be duped by my Google feed with a fake trailer..


The__King2002

cgi lacks depth in some scenes but other than that the movie looks great


w1nn1p3g

That's probably shots on the volume, it was immediately noticeable to me lol


Wolventec

It looks flatter than the volume in mandolorian and batman


metros96

As mentioned below, some of this is The Volume, but I think Ragnarok was pretty similar between stuff that looks really cool and awesome, and stuff that looks almost deliberately not-quite-real. In a dramatic film it might be an issue, but Ragnarok was so good at keeping the fun so high that you don’t care that some locations or backgrounds look pretty phony


breakfastbenedict

Kinda feel like that's a deliberate choice with more comedic scenes?


crusty_jugglers93

Not everything is a deliberate choice especially since every phase four marvel movie has had some iffy CGI sequences. Especially when you consider the amount of movies and TV series they’ve been doing and there’s only so much post production time for the VFX houses to get 1000 of VFX shots done parts are always going to be a little rough around the edges.


Landon1195

OW: $175M DOM: $425M WW: $1B


007Kryptonian

This looks incredible and like a ton of fun. Bale as Gorr looks menacing and the movie just feels like a blast. Combine Thor’s popularity and Taika’s record and the sky’s the limit for this one. 95% on Rotten Tomatoes OW: 200M WW: 1.2-1.3B


subhuman9

1065% on Rotten Tomatoes 500 Metacritic 600m OW 3 B WW


NotTaken-username

Hey, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. It’s not Morbius 2: Morebius


random_guy_somewhere

Tonally weird trailer. It felt campy at times with Thor really hamming it up. But then it was like it tried to also be serious introducing Bale as a God killer, but it seemed like he was an afterthought to the humor.


TheTyger

I suspect this movie will tell 2 stories that collide. One is the story of how Fat Thor managed to roll from there to being his full self again (by gallivanting around the start having fun), and the story of how the worthy, Jane Foster, has taken his role with Asgard. Jane and other God level supers are meeting to figure out why gods have been dying (maybe a shout out to Moon Knight there?), but the answer is Gorr, who Thor and Lady Thor will show down against, with one of them I suspect having to sacrifice themself to get the victory. That's why it shows the campy Thor 3 fun but offsets it with an unsettling and dark undertone.


NaRaGaMo

Fat thor sub plot will be done in like 10-15minutes


The_Count_Lives

Agreed. I didn't get this trailer at all really. I thought it looked very generic Marvel, but I trust Taika.


Jazzlike-Patience557

I am so pumped at Marvel's experimentation. Suddenly phase 4 doesn't feel so monotonous anymore. Fine, it may not have yielded perfect results most of the time But I'd rather take flawed experimentation as with Eternals and MoM than repeated cookie cutter done to perfection. The film looks visually stunning honestly


TraditionalWishbone

1.2-1.4B Thor's popularity benefited the most from thanos saga


Low-Blackberry-2690

Lol I think this will do a lot better than DS for tone reasons but you could literally copy paste your comment and replace Thor with Doctor Strange and you’d get upvoted here a month ago


TraditionalWishbone

I do believe that Doctor Strange's popularity benefitted the second most, only after Thor.


gerrothoraxpulcher

Totally Thundergun. Dude hangs dong.


Vadermaulkylo

160m opening 400 DOM 850m WW


ryanmahaffe

Gonna be super frontloaded with steep drops as is the new standard and people here will be shocked about it for the 10th time and youtube neckbeards will say the drops are because it was just too damn woke


hauntedgauntlet

I’m hyped.


Tossed_Away_1776

Looks amazing!!


Sinsley

So. Now we've got Natalie Portman giving an entire new generation their first boners once again. I appreciate her service to those unknown.


Lincolnruin

Looks like a crowd pleaser.


vouteda

Predicting about the same gross as MoM