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What are some tips and tricks to ensure that your PC lives a long life?

What are some tips and tricks to ensure that your PC lives a long life?

winkapp

I've found that PCs in the hands of people who leave them alone actually last pretty damn long.


AMSolar

I've built PC's for my parents mom&pop store back in early 2000s and then refreshed these PCs around late 2000s maybe 2008 or something. I haven't been there for many years almost a decade and I was very surprised to hear from my brother that everything is still working fine and nothing was upgraded or replaced. I mean HDD's supposed to just die. I have no clue why it's still working lol


BlueTrin2020

It’s random after a certain time, some will die some won’t. You may have been lucky.


Lord_emotabb

Better do a backup!


BlueTrin2020

Yea definitely also failures on HDD are iffy, you can sometimes lose data but still be able to boot ans not notice immediately…


JeffTek

I had an HDD do that to me. Files started corrupting in large batches and things started erroring out but I could still boot and play games. It just got worse and worse over time but never fully failed before I upgraded everything


nmiller248

Depends on if the HDD’s were manufactured on a Monday or a Friday.


GeneralSalty1

I bought my Western Digital hard drive factory new in 2012/2013 and its still working good as new, haven't had a single issue.


Scav3nger

The first time I read that, I thought you'd bought the whole factory.


BlueTrin2020

He’s still producing HDDs apparently


Borkton

I thought it depended on how often they were used. I didn't realize it was age-based.


AjBlue7

I’ve got a laptop HDD from 2010 thats still kicking in my desktop. I use it to store unessential data like videogames and gameplay videos. Still works perfectly but damn its such a struggle to watch videos off that drive, you can’t scrub in vlc at all unless you want to wait 30minutes for it to load.


MegaScubadude

Oh my god this is too true. Took the 500gb HDD out of my ~07-08 laptop cause one extra is better than none extra. I straight up took it out a week later, it was too frustrating trying to load any newer games off of, which was unfortunately my plan for that drive


innocentlilgirl

i still have a pair of 1tb WD blacks from 2010 running granted they arent being put to any heavy load these days since i most apps/games et al i put on the ssds now


AjBlue7

I knew a guy that worked for a major datacenter and he gave me an intel 158gb server ssd like 6 years ago. Those things were designed to chooch for a long time. I still use it as my OS drive, and have a new samsung drive for important docs and games.


Stoogefrenzy3k

wow that must cost a bunch


AjBlue7

Brand new it was a $1000 ssd. Kinda insane how cheap storage is now in comparison.


paulwolf20

I've also bought a PC second hand in 2013 with components from 2010 like athlon ii X2 and a GeForce gt 430 and the HDD still works to this day with just a switch to an athlon ii X4 and an ssd


AWildGamerAppeared25

It also depends on usage, if your HDD doesn't get a lot of data written to it, then it won't wear out as fast. But there's also the chance it'll just fail randomly


hardolaf

HDDs fail due to reads or writes as the head assembly is moving. SSDs fail only due to writes.


Torafuku

If it fails randomly it means the quality was rather poor, just buy good ones and they will last for 10 years.


Narrheim

What an argument. "Just buy good ones". Which are those "good ones"? Even the most expensive HDD can fail anytime and the cheapest can endure many years of service. All of them will also wear over time. Considering the HDDs and SSDs are non-serviceable products, you can´t forecast its durability. That´s why all wise people have backups and those who don´t, will eventually learn at the cost of data loss, to make them as well.


AWildGamerAppeared25

True. I meant like after a good number of years, since he said these PCs were running since the 2000s, I wouldn't be surprised if an HDD from like 2008 just failed today after 13 years lol


Narrheim

It also depends on how often is the PC used. Like if it runs 24/7 or once/twice a month - a PC with such light usage has a potential to survive decades.


Torafuku

I have 2 6 years old HDDs and they never gave me problems, i haven't made a backup yet but they should still last for a good 3-4 years.


Narrheim

You really should make backups. Otherwise you will learn to do it the hard way.


ReverendDizzle

I’m one of those build-and-coast people. I build a good PC with parts that do what I need without over clocking or modifications and it just runs… forever. The build I’m using right now is from 2013 and other than some video card drivers causing a blue screen, it’s just chugged along.


Terr_

Yeah, I'm still coasting on an Intel 2500K and while I'm definitely overdue for a new one I'm surprised how long it has been effective. It's even using the same AIO cooler. The upgrades have all been in the video-card and SSD, until *very* recently I actually added RAM. (Changing jobs, running some virtual-machines for work.) I've basically been using sleep-mode forever rather than power-cycling, not sure if that helped or not.


ReverendDizzle

Outside of gaming or serious heavy lifting like video editing, there's really no reason for most people to upgrade. I've been using an i5-4670k/16GB RAM/SSD build since 2013. I built it with a GTX 770 and eventually swapped that out a few years ago for a GTX 1080 (for gaming, obviously). It's only now in 2021 that I'm starting to feel like the computer is sluggish for day-to-day tasks. Honestly I could probably wipe it and drop in a brand new SSD and it would likely solve that sluggishness issues enough to buy me even more time... but I've been getting and upgrade itch and am seriously considering dropping about $1200 on a new build (and reusing the GTX 1080). It's crazy to me that I could get almost 10 years out of this machine without any complaint. Back in the day computing moved so fast that a few years difference made your old computer look like a horse and buggy by comparison.


qtx

Yea, rule #1; Don't go fucking around in the registry just because some people on the internet told you too. Just leave it the fuck alone.


ga_rebel_1860

I fucked around in the registry to completely disable cortana and remove it from the start menu. Worth it.


MILITARY_SOURCE

Here's a utility for that and more! It's great. https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater


joszowski

You can fuck around on a VM, if it survives you can do it on your host OS


CantThinkNameNo

regedit has a backup option, just back up registry before you edit it


Rocky87109

The registry isn't that scary. Just follow directions.


SnooWalruses9019

You can make a backup ahead of time...


F-21

Don't fix stuff if it isn't broken...


Carnildo

If my Pentium MMX is anything to go by, "don't turn it off" is also pretty useful. 25 years and still running; last turned off a year and a half ago due to a power outage.


bunrollbreadloaf

im curious how such an old processor can still be useful today.. are you still running windows 95?


Sco7689

I can run Winamp 5 under W98 on my laptop with a 133MHz MMX. So, pretty alright as an MP3 boombox. The screen is 1/8 dead though.


QueefyMcQueefFace

Ahh WinAMP. To this day, it really kicks the Llama's ass. My dad still runs a Pentium IV processor. I'm like, dude, you know there are at least dual core processors available these days lol


Deathbynote

I recently experienced this with my pre-built PC. Beyond turning it on i never touched it for 7 years until the PSU give up. Reason (i think) was the carpet of dust i found in the filter situated directly under the PSU (on the case itself) which i never cleaned obviously. Infact i didn't even know it existed until i installed the new PSU. Disclaimer: I haven't gamed in about 4 years. If i had it would've died much sooner i'm sure. edit: actually bought it 9 years ago


Hastylez

Dont play League


fuego_w8

Instructions unclear. Tyler1'd my pc into my neighbors living room.


lao7272

Don't run stupid high OCs, dust it off every now and then with compressed air, the cooler every thing runs the better but don't spend a fortune on cooling.


vonwastaken

Imma run a stupid high oc for my 24/7 use case


lao7272

24/7 LN2 OC


merchant2

Eh, that isn't cold enough liquid helium is more effective for higher clocks.


Kagia001

Why use liquids when you can use a solid cooled to 0K?


Ninlilizi

Electrons stop flowing at 0K.


HardwareSoup

I'm not an expert, but a quick search suggests electrons do not stop, but slow greatly and exist in their lowest energy state.


saadakhtar

It's called undervolting for a reason.


augustinemory

Fuck I ran a 2500k at like 4.8Ghz or something, all power savers turned off, 24/7 for like 10 years. Thing was a tank, zero issues. ...on a 212 cooler no less.


Bizarro-

Just curious, is there a such thing as too much cooling? I’m new to this PC stuff and I just got a prebuilt recently and when i game it gets really loud, and I recently wanted to save up to get some more fans


AdrianHD80

You Cant overcool your pc just make it noisier


Bizarro-

Oh dang so I probably shouldn’t get some more fans.


AdrianHD80

If you get some high quality fans like bequiet noctua etc. You dont have to worry about the noise infact if you replace the Standart ones the pc will get quiter Just dont buy cheap fans But the noise also may come from your cpu cooler or gpu


MEDDERX

Make it so your pc is OnlyFans


ankits_reddit

:D


lichtspieler

If your target is a fixed amount of airflow, more fans equal, if the case allows it, lower RPM requirements from the fans. In desktop space static pressure with fans is not a real thing, so in reality its just about airflow and that can be solved with low RPM and a bigger surface/more fans. It matters what case you got of course, some case designs are so restrictive, that it kills desktop fan performance with to much airflow restricions - again there are no real static pressure fans in desktops, it would be just to noisy.


m_kitanin

Not for the scenario you are asking about (Edit: aside from hard drives as the other person wisely pointed out) but there is such thing and many scenarios when going subambient, like when cooling with nitrogen or helium that you can drop the temp too low and the CPU/GPU will lock up. Or if using chilled water or a TEC you can accidentaly go below the dew point and condensation may occur which is dangerous


Carnildo

For hard drives, yes. Google published a study about 15 years ago of the hard drives in their datacenters. One of the surprising results was that a hard drive that's run too cool will fail almost as fast as one that's run too hot. The ideal temperature for a hard drive is in the 30-35 C (85-95 F) range. I'm not aware of any similar result for other hardware.


hexapodium

In general no, with a very narrow exception that SSD NAND has an optimal temperature for maximum lifespan of 40-50° when in use, as it reduces the currents needed to read and write the flash memory, improving overall wear. Conversely the controller likes to be as cool as possible. However this is such a phenomenally niche situation - NAND flash in domestic settings has a multi-decade lifespan - that there is unlikely to ever be an issue. I run m.2 SSDs with heatsinks primarily to cool the controller, and they parasitically warm the NAND as well.


NPKgrow42

Clean it sometimes, keep it off the floor, try not to smoke/ vape into it lol


XxDiCaprioxX

Off the floor? Oh shit....


toastmannn

Just make sure you get enough ventilation into the bottom and clean out any dust that accumulates.


slowestmojo

I've been keeping it on hardwood floors on top of a box is this okay?


Quiziromastaroh

That's probably fine but if you already have hardwood floor I think you don't need the box. There are some here who complain about keeping your PC on the floor but I think that as long as it's not on carpet and your floor is clean it should be fine.


SolidParticular

Ye, there really is no issue in keeping your PC on hardwood floor. The only issue is that you might knock a drink over and it'll spill down into your case, which has happened once to me but other than that... there really is no issue.


jonker5101

Floors tend to be a lot dustier than a desk. Also more pet hair.


SolidParticular

Not an issue unless you never vacuum your floors and at that point you most likely have other issues you should consider first. Not to mention most cases these days have dustfilters at the bottom.


Drunken_HR

That's good. I upgraded to a full tower last year because my office is way too hot in the summer and my Corsair midtower didn't have enough ventilation. Probably overkill but it runs cooler. However it's fucking massive and there's no way it will fit on my desk so it's on the hardwood floor.


LeftySmith

I bought a full ATX tower for my first build all the way back in 2002. I bought it because I had no idea what I was doing beyond what I'd read in Maximum PC, which had given me the impression I would like the extra room when putting everything together, rather than for cooling, though. Turns out that my freshman apartment wasn't air conditioned, and I built an AMD Athlon XP system...for those that aren't familiar, those things ran HOT. 120mm fans weren't common in smaller cases at the time, but this one had a 120x25 for intake. It wasn't making the cut, so I ordered some behemoth 120x35mm from the internet that did some absurd CFM. The case didn't have mounting screws, but instead a 120x25mm bracket...that didn't fit the new titan of a fan. So I redneck engineered a solution with some fishing line. Our living room sounded like an airplane hangar after that, but I didn't have any overheating problems anymore.


shine_on

Mine is at floor level but sitting on a small plank of wood so there's an air gap at the bottom for ventilation. PCs are ok at floor level, just don't put them on deep pile carpets.


Basti2706

So my pc has been on the carpet floor for almost 6 years now. It does have feet for a 1-2 cm lift and no air intake at the bottom. Cleaning the dust filters monthly, plus cleaning the components every now and then and its perfectly fine.


Dashurius

My old PC lived for 6 years and I kept it on the floor.


EdynViper

I think the best you can do is make sure the parts get good airflow and don't overheat, whether that be through regular cleaning of the case or making sure you have sufficient cooling like enough fans or a decent CPU cooler. Keep it away from anything that could compound those issues. Having the case on the floor means it will suck in more dirt. Put it on your desk or at least some elevation from the ground. Keep your pets off it so they don't shed hair into the case (or worse, poop on it). And especially keep it above drink spilling level.


aalios

> And especially keep it above drink spilling level. But my PC likes a beer when I'm having one.


deathstr0ke

A family member of mine spilled water on my PC. Cleaned it and let it dry for a week before using, and it still had some issues, but has worked okay since. The build is now 8 years old, and i get my new build this week !


_YeAhx_

> Keep your pets off it so they don't shed hair into the case (or worse, poop on it). Hmmmmmm


InsertMolexToSATA

Try to keep it dust-free, use a surge protector, replace the surge protector as needed.


KarlKonrad

Clean the pc regularly


Dontcare_at_all12345

How do you define “regularly”? Honest question.


A7ftFox

Yeah I would say a good dusting out every 5 or 6 months. If you have furry pets, I would do it more often though.


BlueTrin2020

I clean my furry pets only every 6 months. What about the PC though?


MysteriousTBird

Cats hate this man! Find out his secret!!!


BlueTrin2020

r/buildapet


footpole

We're not talking about your buddies who identify as furries here. Actual animals.


BlueTrin2020

My furry buddies have feelings! You insensitive clod! 😂


KarlKonrad

I do this every 6 months or so...


laddie64

Kinda depends, if you keep your PC on the floor or have pets that shed a lot it's gonna get dusty a lot more quickly. I would say just glance inside your PC every now and then and clean it out as needed. I usually clean mine out three times a year or so.


BlueTrin2020

If you use a PC for gaming I’d blow the dust every 2 months to avoid dust build up. But I use a special blower for this purpose and my case is easy to open for cleaning, so I prefer to do it regularly to avoid build ups. I do it more frequently because it’s in a carpeted room.


ssjx7squall

I have a husky and live in the south west. I have to do it once a month. Dust in dryer climates increases the chance of static shock too so be careful with that if you’re interested he Southwest like me. Cooler climates and less fit you’re probably fine extending that time period out.


hughk

In the earlier days of minicomputers, we would have a quarterly preventive maintenance check. One of the main things was a thorough vacuum clean of the boards, the cable harnesses, the PSU and the fans. I have the PC plugged in but switched off so it is earthed. I have kind of stuck with this over the decades and had few problems apart from the capacitor plagues. But we don't have animals all the time. If we did have a dog or cat, then I guess we might need to do it more often.


goretsky

Hello, Let's see… I would add, the following: * "Use a good quality UPS." That could be placed in front of the surge protector, or it could take the place of it if it has the surge suppression features you desire. * As far as undervolting the CPU goes, I would recommend against this if your particular model is vulnerable to Plundervolt-style attacks. * Use a high-quality thermal paste and periodically reapply it per the manufacturer's instructions, taking care to thoroughly clean the CPU and the heat sink before applying new paste. (This may or may not apply to thermal pads.) * Perform regular backups of your computer's data, and periodically restore some of it to verify the backup was successful, preferably to a different computer. * Use a unique and memorable password for each online service. Enable two-factor authentication for all accounts that allow it. You did not ask for any specific security recommendations, but I added the last one as kind of a general thing. The r/antivirus wiki, which I've spent some time working on, contains a list of things you can do to secure your computer besides running antivirus software. That might be worth a look as well—it's located at the bottom of the page. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky


nosleepy

> Use a high-quality thermal paste and periodically reapply it How often is periodically?


jbourne0129

FWIW im still running the stock thermal paste that came on my h100i 6 years ago. if your not seeing temp issues i wouldnt bother replacing the thermal paste.


Free_Dome_Lover

Most cases people will find every 24-36 months sufficient, even good pastes can be susceptible to drying out after extended periods of heavy use. If you use crappy pastes I would say 18-24months.


Sol-Infra

Ah, so I probably need to reapply it to the PC I assembled in 2017 then.


timeslider

Same but 2015


digitalhardcore1985

Don't bother unless your temps are suffering. There's more (although still very slim) chance you'll do some damage pulling it apart than you'll actually make any difference to your chip's longevity if the temps are still good.


killm_good

**NEVER plug in a surge suppressor to a UPS, or the other way around.** You can cancel out the protection. All consumer UPSs have surge suppression built in.


fkngdmit

What is the basis for this theory? Having two surge protectors in series is not a failure mode, the protection would not fail, it would be magnified. The danger of plugging a surge protector (or any power strip) into another power strip comes from the possibility of drawing more amperage than the first power strip can handle and becoming a fire hazard.


killm_good

This is the comment I read a while ago, each surge suppressor adds components in series with the power. When even more are added in series (a second daisy-chained surge suppressor), the electrical characteristics of the circuit change and they can no longer function as designed. https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/h61s9/why_is_it_dangerous_to_daisychain_surge_protectors/c1suku5/ Another discussion: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/34048/why-is-daisy-chaining-surge-protectors-not-recommended


fkngdmit

There are some good points, but there seems to be some people with tunnel-vision assessing series surge protectors as if they were parallel, which isn't a realistic assessment. There is also much talk of how limiting devices in series could somehow effect eachother, which is patently false, as current in a series circuit is the same at any point, and having multiple fuses in series could not interfere with eachother, as when one blows the circuit is now open, not modified. The same is true with MOVS, as long as they are not in parallel, their protection is maintained even if daisy chained. I think a lot of the fear of compounding surge protection is based on a) lack of understanding of electrical theory, but mostly b) misunderstanding of the design of electrical protection devices.


lazy_tenno

i did that but only for a few minutes until i decided just to use the UPS. am i fucked?


killm_good

No, but your gear was at risk while it was plugged in like that


ICrushTacos

Yeah. Your whole life is ruined now bro.


Jeffrey_Jizzbags

What do you guys use for backups? Have backups of all my files and info, but don't have any system images. Need to get around to that.


MyBitchesNeedMOASS

Don't vape near it.


laddie64

So you're saying my custom vape-cooled rig is a bad idea?


Trioculu5

Lol thanks


Bradrb66

Genuinely asking, why is it a bad idea to vape near your PC?


entrluzrnaam

Dust normally builds up on pc components over time. Usually it's pretty trivial to shoot it out with some compressed air and wipe some areas with a soft cloth. When smoke is involved, be it from a cigarette or vape, the dust gets sticky like a thin layer of tar on your components and is really hard to remove.


XxDiCaprioxX

Vape liquid also usually includes some type of component that could crystallize on the components, like some sugar or wax


000McKing

My guess is that the vape clouds clog the dust filters easily


MyBitchesNeedMOASS

It forms a sort of sticky goo on a surface it lands on. I cleaned my fans after vaping near it for a few months and it had a wet moist goo (nice) on the intake fans. It'll fuck with heat dispersion if it gets on other components


NotKhaner

Vape juice is hdyrosorbic, meaning if you put it on a scale and leave it for some time, it will weigh more from absorbing water out of the air. So that getting sucked into your PC and getting stuck means higher chance of water buildup on your boards. Water= no good good for compooter Also I have vaped by my computer for 4 years and have no issues at all, I have also used vape to test airflow on the rare occasion I am fucking with my fans. Still runs fine


SpacemanC1997

Oh my god, you have no idea how happy I am that someone else has blown vape in their PC to see the airflow pattern. I don’t make a habit of it, but I thought I was the only one. Probably not wise but it was a great visualization.


Myzhi1

Pray to the PC god… Electronics can fail randomly. Nothing you can do. Just remove dust from it once awhile. If you get power outages, run behind a UPS.


mombawamba

Is a surge protector enough in most cases? How can I tell if a UPS is good or not? Can you reccomend one? I have a pretty beefy 3080ti build, does that matter?


Zenben88

APC is generally the UPS brand I stick with. I have a 1500VA that will run my 10900k/3090 build for several minutes ([this one](https://www.amazon.com/APC-Battery-Protector-BackUPS-BX1500M/dp/B06VY6FXMM/ref=sxts_rp_s1_0?cv_ct_cx=apc+1500&dchild=1&keywords=apc+1500&pd_rd_i=B06VY6FXMM&pd_rd_r=9f1a2cea-6713-48d6-948e-8cf987b4f74d&pd_rd_w=4PWKb&pd_rd_wg=6jED1&pf_rd_p=c0fa563a-b0ba-455a-bd65-7b14bea6288c&pf_rd_r=M05CZPFY3WJ507YN2CZ6&psc=1&qid=1631705407&sr=1-1-f0029781-b79b-4b60-9cb0-eeda4dea34d6)). $170 is pricey, but when you consider the $4k machine it's protecting, and that I live in Florida with brown-outs every other day, it's a no-brainer.


Sol-Infra

Take this guys advice. Dont skimp on the UPS.


Ellan511

Get a decent, or if you have the money to blow, a good UPS. Surge protectors do help as well but it wont stop it from turning off.


mombawamba

Okay, but what does a good one look like? They all have different voltage and watts and I have no idea what those mean in a UPS.


WildSauce

I highly recommend Tripp-Lite - they are widely used in industrial applications and their UPS systems are absolutely bombproof. I have their 1500 VA system, and it will keep my computer on standby for several hours, and I have once or twice gamed through a 2-3 minute blackout before the power came back on. Even their 750 VA UPS would give you plenty of time to gracefully shut down your computer though. Personally I have both my computer and my router plugged into it, so that I don't have a lengthy internet reset after a short outage.


MrEff1618

You mean pray to the machine spirit?


MysteriousTBird

Just keep replacing parts whenever you have money. Only my case, fans, and DVD-R drive are from the original, but it's technically the same pc, right?


wizardent420

Theseus' pc?


saadakhtar

Has a DVD drive. More like Jesus's PC.


GeraltForOverwatch

* Good PSU. * Don't keep high temps. * Good surge protector. * If you use UPS make sure they have senoidal or at least semi-senoidal wave. * If your GPU is high end make sure each PCI-E plug has its own separate cable. * If your house uses 110/127 volts outlets, make sure they are properly installed. * Don't put your PC in the same circuit breaker as motors, air conditioners, hair dryers, electric shower heads, freezers, electric heaters... * Luck.


Bizarro-

What’s some ways to keep temps down, I noticed mine rise when either dusty or when gaming.


GeraltForOverwatch

Rising temps are fine, it's supposed to happen. That's different than overheating.


Bizarro-

Ahh okay, okay.


HybridPS2

And some chips can handle it if running quite hot. The Ryzen 5000 series can handle running at 95c, although performance will obviously be a bit degraded at that level.


_YeAhx_

Undervolting both cpu (in bios -mV each core or using LLC offset) and GPU (msi afterburner custom voltage curve you can shave -150-250mV easily) Brings down at least 5c each depending on how good undervolt it is without affecting performance. Unless you overdo it.


SandOfTheEarth

Can you explain the aircon/heat dryer thing?


LYDTF

might pull too much power and trip a circuit breaker


GeraltForOverwatch

They cause interference that runs down the electric circuit, specially when they turn on and off, like a discharge happening counter of the AC current. Technically it happens with every equipment but motors, heaters, freezers and such have big spikes that eventually take a toll on a PSU.


-Toshi

>GPU is high end make sure each PCI-E plug has its own separate cable. Could you expand on this? I've got a RM850 waiting, I assumed you just plugged everything in as directed?


SinkingCarpet

[Like this](https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/8-installation-remark-for-high-power-consumption-graphics-cards)


Jules040400

Huh, I had no idea. Interesting


Tots2Hots

Good mesh filter equipped case, open it and clean it regularly, check all your temps every now and then to make sure nothing is running too hot. Prioritize functionality and performance of components over getting something that looks like a leprachaun barfed on it.


Teftell

Buy high airflow cases, high quality PSUs, use wired antistatic wristbands, clean heatsinks, do not put PCs on a carpet, surf web safely.


sawcondeesnutz

Those wristbands really don’t do all that much.


hara90

Leave it the hell alone. Don't look at it, don't touch it apart from the power button, do every activity 5ft away from it. I find most problems originate from user error.


DexRogue

I love this but it's way overkill. I have a i7-2700k that has been over locked at 4.5ghz since 2011 when I got it. It sat on the floor, I used an AIO water cooler, and I didn't use a UPS. Components these days are significantly more resistant and easier to handle for the most part. Less moving parts is a good thing. Keep it clean and use good components. Cheap stuff breaks and doesn't last as long as the quality ones. Buy a PSU with a good warranty from a reputable company. You will be fine. Keep it clean and don't be cheap! :)


jimenycr1cket

People in this sub are obsessed will all this shit like "pick up your PC off the floor". Guys, it does not fucking matter. I can tell you with modern pcs if you get good quality components and occasionally dust your PC, absolutely none of these tips will extend your PC life at all.


RedIndianRobin

Why shouldn't one use an AIO? I've been using AIOs since 6 years now and I never had issues?


Insidious-Ruin

It's just another unnecessary source of error with many CPUs, usually the pump is one of the first things to break on a PC with an AIO, over time the cooling liquid will evaporate and without sufficient liquid the pump is guaranteed to break, as this usually happens after a few years it's usually not a big problem as many parts are updated over time. But since we are talking about longevity here, without major hardware replacement, only the fan of an air cooler can fail one day, which most people will never experience, and even then anyone can replace it with a new one for $5.


BushHide

My i5-4690k back then did not enjoy being pegged at 85c due to dead pump


ServinTheSovietOnion

What a beast of a CPU though. I've had mine under a stock cooler since I built my first pc in college, and it's still going strong today. It has been relegated to transcoding for my Plex server, but its still just chugging along.


RattledSabre

Can confirm, my Fractal T12 cooler needs refilling about once every 1-2 years. No clue where the water goes, it's not leaking, but vanishes anyway. Wouldn't even have to think about it with air cooling. I'll be going back to air when I next change things up, much less hassle. I guess what you're saying is that issues are not guaranteed, but you have a higher probability of requiring intervention over a period of time.


rodrigoa1990

> No clue where the water goes, it's not leaking, but vanishes anyway Water evaporates and goes through the material, nothing you can do about it. Same way an air balloon eventually deflates even if you completely seal the lip (or whatever that's called, the part where you put your mouth to blow air into it lol)


Zeppekki

JayzTwoCents explained this very well in one of his videos


Thomas5020

Regular cleaning and a high quality PSU


Jordan_Jackson

You can use an AIO. Both of mine have them and one of the AIOs is going on 6 years and keeping a 4690K overclocked to 4.7 GHz the whole time. There is a potential for leakage but that is very rare. I’d say it’s the same chance as a fan failing and I’ve seen some old fans still operating. Just keep everything clean and if you OC, monitor voltage and temps. Pay attention to your PC because it’s expensive and you’d want it to last a long time.


SacKing20

Don't watch porn on it


Bradrb66

Don't tell me how to live my life. Only my wife can do that. ^(/s)


Doomblaze

Wait what else are my 3 screens for


Infynis

Don't make CON your dump stat


WartyWartyBottom

Nice. I knew someone would have commented this already.


Sharpman85

Don’t spill water on it and make sure it runs as cool as possible


SumAustralian

But pouring water on it keeps it cool.


_YeAhx_

That's where you are wrong. Gotta piss on it so show dominance


sawcondeesnutz

Piss is warm


Anna_Avos

Don't let overheat. Keep it clean of dust. Don't let your kids pour juice in it


Scrug

Thermal paste doesn't last forever. Replace every 3ish years, or get a graphite thermal pad. Slight drop in cooling performance with the thermal pad but it will last a lot longer. It's all about keeping things cool. The cooler you can keep your components the longer they will last.


digitalhardcore1985

Using a thermal pad is basically akin to running it constantly for the next 3 years at the same performance level as thermal paste after having been run for 3 or possibly many more years. My last PC only saw a couple of C increase over like 7 years on thermal paste.


SnooMacaroons5489

One of the more interesting ways besides dusting, is to actuat reinstall windows and change up some aesthetic components such as fans or led strips once in a while Sort of tricks your brain into thinking it's new since teure are obvious changes, yet nothing has actually changed under the hood


dynozombie

Invest in an electronic air duster and blow out once a month. Then just check on temps every once and awhile and that's about it


makoblade

Don't feed it. Also don't be dumb. Clean it if you want, and at least have a decent surge protector if nothing else.


Menes009

I would consider using a UPS an overkill for a household PC. air cooler instead of AIO has no influence, its just that AIO needs more maintenance, but then you are already talking about re-pasting stuff so you dont have a problem with high maintenanace it seems


cury41

Maybe it falls under 11., but I'd suggest to keep your PC clean, e.g. remove things from your PC once you dont need them anymore. More a software thing rather than a hardware thing, but some processes eat up RAM, even if you are not actively using them.


Scotty8633

Don't put a drink or food on top of it. A few posts recently where either their dinner or a drink of some kind have managed to get inside.


CrabbitJambo

I install as little stuff as you can get away with! I’ve lived by this and my PC runs like a dream compared to my sons which he’s always having issues no installs all kinds of crap! If you’re a gamer just install the games! I have a laptop I use for all the other shit and keep the pc as clean as possible.


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lao7272

You're a little confused, that's for phones.


EdynViper

No, for phones you put them in the microwave to extend battery life.


lao7272

That's to quick charge.


ClintE1956

I store mine in the freezer. My phone is so cool.


GraveGalius

Does it work with PSUs?


DukeOfGamers353

for legal reasons this is a joke


SumAustralian

For legal reasons this is not legal advice.


Tom1255

Im conflicted about your undervolting advice: General consensus is it is good for temps, and doesnt harm your hardware. However ive been following a couple of electronics specialists, who make a living out of fixing laptops/GPUs/consoles, and repair their stuff on YT. They both seem very knowledgable, and both say undervolting is bad for modern electronics. Their theory is, that modern GPUs for example have very complicated power delivery systems, anda lot of power phases so the GPU die itself has as much as possible power delivered, and the power delivery is as smooth as possible as well. Only one power phase is delivering the power to GPU at the time, and they are dislocated in time in relation to each other, and mosfets are switching the phases millions of times per second. So more phases=smoother power delivery, and you can deliver more power as well. During transition time between the phases capacitors take care of powering up the GPU, discharging when doing so, and charging when the power is delivered through them again. They say that when you undervold your GPU, you make the gaps between phases bigger. That means that capacitors are diacharged more when off power, and can sometimes not be fully charged again when on power, which can result in micro fluctuations of power. Also bigger gaps can lead to micro power surges, which can lead to shorter life span of capacitors, and even critical failure in extreme examples. They both also claim those power delivery fluctuarions and surges are not good for GPU die itself. Also, one of them (he specializes in GPUs repair) says that used GPU from crypto miner is a big no no, unless it still has a lot of warranty left, and that cards used for mining are not in better condition than the ones used for gaming. If anything, he says their memory fails more then gaming ones. That's also against general consensus, that mining cards are fine. Can anyone with more electronics knowledge confirm this theory? Also, I'm not electronics expert, but this is my understanding of what the dudes I watch were saying. Also English is not my first language, so I will appreciate if I made a mistake somewhere, and you can correct me.


3600CCH6WRX

>They both also claim those power delivery fluctuarions and surges are not good for GPU die itself. GPU voltage always fluctuate ........ >Also, one of them (he specializes in GPUs repair) says that used GPU from crypto miner is a big no no. Mining GPU are mostly undervolted. Those memory and the gpu it self is usually in good condition because they are run in constant voltage and temperature. >That's also against general consensus, Good thing they make living fixing laptops, instead of engineering them.


Narrheim

Best pro tip, if you want your PC to outlive you, don´t use it. ​ I am wondering, but what will happen to a PC sitting on the floor? Will it get sick? Also, how often should i do the repasting? I´m doing once a year, is that sufficient? Is UPS that much needed? ​ Half of your points are debatable, man.


iHeisenburger

why is air cooling better than AIO?


YengaJaf

Noob question. Why is air cool better than aio


A_Erthur

Why shouldn't i place it on the floor?


spinja187

Never turn it off


VeljaBiceps

My pc is going strong for 9 years with occasional dust cleaning, luck I guess.


Dioapple

I tried overclocking for the first time yesterday, didn't wanna go overboard so i looked on youtube. Loads of positive comments so i decide to give it a shot, boot Cyberpunk to test it out...it loads faster, huh nice...i play for a full 25 seconds before the whole damn shit crashes. Ok, i tried...revert settings. I'm out.


LeonTempest

Why cant i put it on the floor?


enido777

How does leaving it on the floor affect pc lifespan?


enido777

How to clean dust away?


ianisysto

I’m pretty sure it’s fine if you put your pc on the floor if the case gets it’s intake airflow from above and not the bottom


PoundKitchen

Nice list. I'm not sure how it fit's but I'd add, always buy motherboards with 3 year warranty.


RaptorF22

Open it up every 6 months or so and blow out the dust with a can of compressed air.