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Would've called this "Atlas Bugged" if it didn't give away the ending.
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Believe it or not, the book of maps is named for a different Atlas. It's named for the legendary king of Mauretania who supposedly first created a celestial globe.
Yeah, but to be fair, in a lot of representations that make it look as if he's holding the Earth, he's actually holding the celestial sphere, a spherical representation of the sky that we can see around us
Depends how ancient you want to go, but yes, by 500BC most Ancient Greeks knew and accepted the world was round. For reference, this was 20 years before the Battle of Thermopylae, or about 150 years before Alexander the great was born. By 240BC a Greek mathematician even accurately calculated the size of the Earth.
So basically flat-earthers are fucking idiots.
Are you sure the Egyptians didn't know how big the earth was? The perimeter of the great pyramid is at a precise scale to calculate the circumference of the earth.
To my understanding it was the greece that calculated the circumstances in Egypt (late ancient Egypt and early ancient Greece), basically.
Also, the great pyramids was built in late ancient Egypt.
Absolutely not. The Great Pyramid was built in almost roughly two thousand years before what we know of as ancient greece!Greece! Herodatus first mentions the great pyramid in the 5th century BC, but they were built in the 27th century BC. It is now roughly 4600 years old and the oldest of the seven wonders of the ancient world.
I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the pyramids were built during the Mycinean era (Trojan war era) and while what is mainly considered Ancient Greece started around 900 BC there definitely was still “Greek” culture in the area. The Minoan culture in Crete well predates them.
Well, the math to prove the earth was round came around then, yes, including Eratosthenes and its circumference.
People had been putting two and two together regarding the shape of the moon correlating to the shape of the earth for a long while. I'd wager the first thoughts were like, some ancient persian, it just wasn't documented.
It was the Greeks who first made that discovery. Pythagoras and Aristotle were some of the first to propose the idea, and Eratosthenes was the first to calculate the Earth's circumference.
School lied to you, we have known the earth is round for a very **very** long time.
People even knew the approximate angle of curvature over 2000 years ago
Most advanced ancient people knew. Greeks knew from measuring shadows inside two wells miles apart and doing math. They even had a pretty accurate estimation of Earth's size.
The first person to mathematically prove the Earth was not flat was Eratosthenes in the year 240 BC. He also calculated the circumference and got relatively close. (Like within a couple thousand miles)
It's a lot easier to draw him holding up the planet than it is to draw him holding up the heavens. So I don't fault most artists for opting to show the former.
But the gods aren't in the sky are they? They'd be up mount olympus or in their various domains. Isn't the sky heaven thing a christian take on this? Or is this purely a take on how he's often pictured holding the globe?
Atlas was a Titan, the group overthrown by the Olympians (I.e. Zeus) and he was punished by being forced to hold up the sky. Iirc the Greeks thought he lived in the extreme west hence “Atlantic Ocean”
Hey, this is Reddit. Putting the punchline in the title and ruining the joke has never stopped anyone before. A lot of people would have called this "Sorry, Atlas"
Zeus exclusively raped human women, though. They were only turned into animals after being violated, when Hera punished them for being sexually assaulted by her husband.
Zeus' usual M.O. was him turning into an animal, and in one instance golden rain, to tap dat. Women turned into animals as punishment I can remember just one that got turned into a deer, my memory may be deceiving me tho.
There's a dude who did a review of Disney's Hercules from a Greek Mythology perspective. The very first thing was, This is stated to be based on Greek Mythology and the name is HERACLES, not Hercules. They got the main character's name wrong.
There's also a disclaimer at the start where he says something like, "Don't get me wrong. I love this movie, it might be my favorite movie of all time, but it gets the Greek Mythology wrong on basically every point." Which in hindsight was almost certainly intentional, Disney likes to take classic stories and twist and change them to something newish so they can be copyrighted.
[Every Mythical Inaccuracy in Disney's Hercules Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvjeXN_BWkE)
I don’t think it’s an attempt to re-copyright the public domain so much as it’s the fact that Disney has never really cared what the point of the original source material was. Regardless of whether they’re dealing with an ancient story or a relatively-recent novel, Disney animation almost always just grabs the basic premise and runs with it in their own direction.
Whether this is a good or bad thing depends on your point of view — but it generally works for them.
I think it's simply because the latinised version is just more popular. He's the same character anyways.
Like how in anglo world Chinggis Khan is called Genghis.
Hercules is the Roman version of Heracles. Greek and Roman mythologies became very closely related, to the point they're jointly named Greek-Roman mythology nowadays.
Most of the gods and heroes were basically the same in both, only with different names and slightly different customs.
Zeus - Jupiter
Afrodite - Venus
Ares - Mars
Poseidon - Neptune
Hades - Pluto
Dyonisos - ~~Saturn~~ Bacchus
and so on.
Dionysus - Bacchus.
I saw your comment and got into a pit trying to trace back why I always associated Saturn with Cronus. Re-checked and Cronus is identified as Saturn in Roman Mythology.
Dionysus is Bacchus. I needed to make sure about that because Dionysus is one of my two favorite gods. Him and Apollo make a revolutionary duo. Nietzsche wrote about their dynamics as two ways of life and influence on humanity in his Aesthetics. One of the best reads of my life. Literally changed my path.
All this to say, the gods are awesome. Greek Mythology is awesome. Most Mythology is awesome.
Yeah and the Marvel movie, Thor, completely inaccurate from actual Norse mythology.
It's like people just want to tell their *own* story for a modern audience but want to draw inspiration from mythology from the past. *HOW DARE THEY*
[Atlas carries the sky, not the Earth](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(mythology))
> A common misconception today is that Atlas was forced to hold the Earth on his shoulders, but Classical art shows Atlas holding the celestial spheres, not the terrestrial globe;
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He was forced to lift the sky (not the Earth), because he fought against the Olympians in the Titanomachy. Heracles actually managed to lift it temporarily too when he completed one of his labours.
Since he's carrying the earth (yes i know the mythological Atlas is supposed to carry the celestial sphere, but this is comic atlas), then from the perspective of someone walking on the earth atlas would be upside down, with the earth on his shoulders.
I see a few people in the comments being surprised that Atlas actually held the sky and not the earth, so here's a couple other misconceptions about Greek mythology:
- Narcissus did not drown. He starved to death. He was also only 16 and was cursed by some bitter guy for the crime of rejecting him. He thought his reflection was someone else entirely, so it's not actually narcissism.
- Medusa did not turn people to stone. They just dropped dead when they saw her.
- Achilles did not have unpierceable skin. Even gods can and do get stabbed in the Illiad, it would make no sense for a mortal to be that way. Achilles is, however, given an unpierceable armour at a point where he doesn't have much of a will to live or defend himself. It makes more sense than the weird styx-dipping bit.
- Eros was not exclusively a baby. He often took the form of a teen or even a young man. Had a bunch of kids in those forms.
- Apollo, on the other hand, was not meant to look like an adult. He's a beardless youth (not a child, what we'd call a teenager). He also very much behaves like a young person, he's very emotional as far as gods go.
- Hades is not really analogous to Satan. He's not uniquely evil, he just got suckered. He's objectively less despicable than Poseidon and Zeus.
> Medusa did not turn people to stone. They just dropped dead when they saw her.
The extent of my Greek mythology knowledge comes from Immortals Fenyx Rising, so I know virtually nothing about it, but the [Wikipedia page about Medusa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medusa) does say:
> Those who gazed into her eyes would turn to stone.
Is this actually wrong? And if so where can I learn more?
Aren't most these just depending on which Greeks you're listing to? Like with Perseus taming Pegasus, the common image we have comes from one tradition but there is a probably older tradition of it being someone else? Like Joker origin stories, or rebooted franchise - both exist and it's upto you to decide which you prefer. Perseus is described by Greek authors turning people to stone with Medusa's head isn't he?
I hate posts like these,the Greek myths didn't have canonical or non canonical versions like modern media does, something like whether or not Medusa gaze turned people into stone depended on whether you heard the story,same as everything else you mentioned
Since he's carrying the earth (yes i know the mythological Atlas is supposed to carry the celestial sphere, but this is comic atlas), then from the perspective of someone walking on the earth atlas would be upside down, with the earth on his shoulders.
Everything is relative. That's what makes the comic humorous.
I often imagine that my gas pedal does not move my car forward, but causes the earth underneath me to move. Same idea.
I don't mean to criticize but I believe that the last panel would read better if it were "Oh right. Sorry to bother you, Atlas." I know it's quite anal bit that's my only gripe.
I really enjoyed the comic
Nope, the sky. Heracles actually managed to hold it up too for a small time. Atlas was forced to hold up the sky as punishment for his part in the Titanomachy.
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Would've called this "Atlas Bugged" if it didn't give away the ending. Thanks for reading. You can read more of my comics on Instagram @ [thejenkinscomic](https://instagram.com/thejenkinscomic).
How many times has someone commented or DMed you that Atlas carries the sky and not the earth?
He's obviously holding the sky up with his feet
Yup it's just leg day
Mith that men can't multitask, totally busted.
damn…. Fbi open up.. the *‘feet pics please’* crowd are headed this way… take cover!
At least once now.
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No top but okay
No top butok
Mmmmmm
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Didn't need to be.
Dumbass
ok
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who hurt you
So we named it an atlas for nothing?!?!
Believe it or not, the book of maps is named for a different Atlas. It's named for the legendary king of Mauretania who supposedly first created a celestial globe.
Wikipedia (Atlas Mythology) says the Atlas you brought up is the same Atlas from the comic. I have zero knowledge on the subject personally.
It's not different. That's still the same [Atlas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(mythology))...
I never knew that. Super annoying that he's often represented holding the planet.
Yeah, but to be fair, in a lot of representations that make it look as if he's holding the Earth, he's actually holding the celestial sphere, a spherical representation of the sky that we can see around us
Wait did ancient Greeks know that earth is not flat?
Depends how ancient you want to go, but yes, by 500BC most Ancient Greeks knew and accepted the world was round. For reference, this was 20 years before the Battle of Thermopylae, or about 150 years before Alexander the great was born. By 240BC a Greek mathematician even accurately calculated the size of the Earth. So basically flat-earthers are fucking idiots.
Ancient Egyptians knew the earth was round. Edit; But not how big the earth was, Greeks even figured that out (within margin)
Are you sure the Egyptians didn't know how big the earth was? The perimeter of the great pyramid is at a precise scale to calculate the circumference of the earth.
To my understanding it was the greece that calculated the circumstances in Egypt (late ancient Egypt and early ancient Greece), basically. Also, the great pyramids was built in late ancient Egypt.
Absolutely not. The Great Pyramid was built in almost roughly two thousand years before what we know of as ancient greece!Greece! Herodatus first mentions the great pyramid in the 5th century BC, but they were built in the 27th century BC. It is now roughly 4600 years old and the oldest of the seven wonders of the ancient world.
I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the pyramids were built during the Mycinean era (Trojan war era) and while what is mainly considered Ancient Greece started around 900 BC there definitely was still “Greek” culture in the area. The Minoan culture in Crete well predates them.
By the time Late Egypt came around, the Great Pyramids were already ancient. Mammoths still walked the earth when they were new.
I don’t believe this is true - it only began to be widely accepted between 500-380BC, thanks to Pythagoras and then Aristotle.
I believe it was an Egyptian bloke who had 2 pillars built and realised he couldn't see one from the other, concluding the earth to be curved
You’re referring to Eratosthenes, who was Greek - he did however conduct his experiment in Egypt, as that’s where he lived
Oh, he was a Greek fella was he? Makes sense I suppose, the ancient Greeks invented computers too so of course they'd know the earth is round
Well, the math to prove the earth was round came around then, yes, including Eratosthenes and its circumference. People had been putting two and two together regarding the shape of the moon correlating to the shape of the earth for a long while. I'd wager the first thoughts were like, some ancient persian, it just wasn't documented.
Key term is widely known. It's not widely know what components make up a quark inside an atom but it's been observed already.
It was the Greeks who first made that discovery. Pythagoras and Aristotle were some of the first to propose the idea, and Eratosthenes was the first to calculate the Earth's circumference.
School lied to you, we have known the earth is round for a very **very** long time. People even knew the approximate angle of curvature over 2000 years ago
Yes, they even had a pretty good idea of how large the Earth actually was from measuring the shadow of the sun at different places.
Yes, they also had the size of the earth relatively close.
500b.c. they figured it out
Yeah. Well, at least by 500BCE, I’m not sure about earlier
Yes
Most advanced ancient people knew. Greeks knew from measuring shadows inside two wells miles apart and doing math. They even had a pretty accurate estimation of Earth's size.
The first person to mathematically prove the Earth was not flat was Eratosthenes in the year 240 BC. He also calculated the circumference and got relatively close. (Like within a couple thousand miles)
Yeah but the monkey king held a heavier all of creation
It's a lot easier to draw him holding up the planet than it is to draw him holding up the heavens. So I don't fault most artists for opting to show the former.
Maybe he's holding the sky up with his feet for a bit of variety.
He should've been holding up the sky instead *are you trying to tell me you once caught a fish that big*
But the gods aren't in the sky are they? They'd be up mount olympus or in their various domains. Isn't the sky heaven thing a christian take on this? Or is this purely a take on how he's often pictured holding the globe?
Atlas was a Titan, the group overthrown by the Olympians (I.e. Zeus) and he was punished by being forced to hold up the sky. Iirc the Greeks thought he lived in the extreme west hence “Atlantic Ocean”
One less as I don’t have to mention it now.
Hey, this is Reddit. Putting the punchline in the title and ruining the joke has never stopped anyone before. A lot of people would have called this "Sorry, Atlas"
I hate that this is so accurate.
There should be a bonus panel or two where Atlas falls over, and the Earth goes rocketing out of orbit.
Smh inaccurate. Atlas stood on the earth and held the celestial sphere on his shoulder.
No, it works, he's just in Australia.
FYI that’s a headstand.
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[Hallieluia, my man Atlas told me I shouldn't try to hold his world up](https://youtu.be/5ZvARPshVYg)
You can hear Zeus mating with something again in the distance.
Goat?
Loki had a horse too. But Zeus had a much worse one than a goat
Pretty sure Loki also was a horse
It was basically unpaid labor. Poor Stone mason
Not only as a horse but also a female one too Nordic mythology is wild
I love how all the bad art is odin's liquid shits.
And gave birth to a horse. With 8 legs
Loki is beyond gender.
Zeus is the goat, I don't even know what he's fucking, God knows what metahuman he's giving us now.
Zeus exclusively raped human women, though. They were only turned into animals after being violated, when Hera punished them for being sexually assaulted by her husband.
Hera, the first conservative
Zeus' usual M.O. was him turning into an animal, and in one instance golden rain, to tap dat. Women turned into animals as punishment I can remember just one that got turned into a deer, my memory may be deceiving me tho.
Likely dog
*raping
He could ask Heracles if he could substitute for him again. But Heracles would probably want to take part in the Olympics as well.
*Herakles*
There's a dude who did a review of Disney's Hercules from a Greek Mythology perspective. The very first thing was, This is stated to be based on Greek Mythology and the name is HERACLES, not Hercules. They got the main character's name wrong. There's also a disclaimer at the start where he says something like, "Don't get me wrong. I love this movie, it might be my favorite movie of all time, but it gets the Greek Mythology wrong on basically every point." Which in hindsight was almost certainly intentional, Disney likes to take classic stories and twist and change them to something newish so they can be copyrighted. [Every Mythical Inaccuracy in Disney's Hercules Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvjeXN_BWkE)
I don’t think it’s an attempt to re-copyright the public domain so much as it’s the fact that Disney has never really cared what the point of the original source material was. Regardless of whether they’re dealing with an ancient story or a relatively-recent novel, Disney animation almost always just grabs the basic premise and runs with it in their own direction. Whether this is a good or bad thing depends on your point of view — but it generally works for them.
A Disney realistic Herakles getting 50 women pregnant or murdering Meg and their sons would be a hard sell I think
Speak for yourself
I think it's simply because the latinised version is just more popular. He's the same character anyways. Like how in anglo world Chinggis Khan is called Genghis.
i love the mythology guy
Hercules is the Roman version of Heracles. Greek and Roman mythologies became very closely related, to the point they're jointly named Greek-Roman mythology nowadays. Most of the gods and heroes were basically the same in both, only with different names and slightly different customs. Zeus - Jupiter Afrodite - Venus Ares - Mars Poseidon - Neptune Hades - Pluto Dyonisos - ~~Saturn~~ Bacchus and so on.
Dionysus - Bacchus. I saw your comment and got into a pit trying to trace back why I always associated Saturn with Cronus. Re-checked and Cronus is identified as Saturn in Roman Mythology. Dionysus is Bacchus. I needed to make sure about that because Dionysus is one of my two favorite gods. Him and Apollo make a revolutionary duo. Nietzsche wrote about their dynamics as two ways of life and influence on humanity in his Aesthetics. One of the best reads of my life. Literally changed my path. All this to say, the gods are awesome. Greek Mythology is awesome. Most Mythology is awesome.
Yeah and the Marvel movie, Thor, completely inaccurate from actual Norse mythology. It's like people just want to tell their *own* story for a modern audience but want to draw inspiration from mythology from the past. *HOW DARE THEY*
Her ankles
🤤
^achillespit
Achille spit 🥵
Herakles? I barely know her
Yep.... I've heard that Hercules has qualified for 12 events.
Hercules isn't his name, Heracles is actually the correct name. Hercules is Roman.
Maybe I'm roman?
This is a good one!
I don’t get it
atlas carries the earth
[Atlas carries the sky, not the Earth](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(mythology)) > A common misconception today is that Atlas was forced to hold the Earth on his shoulders, but Classical art shows Atlas holding the celestial spheres, not the terrestrial globe;
Kids these days would know that if they listened to more Zeppelin
Which Zeppelin song talks about atlas?
Achilles Last Stand
🎶*Oh, the mighty arms of Atlas Hold the heavens from the Earth*🎵
From the EeEEEEeeeeEEeeeEearth
But how do you listen to a zeppelin, gran'pa? Isn't it, like, flying super high?
You listen to it when it goes boom
I just thought he was holding the sky with his feet
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Atlas carries the heavens not the earth
Yes. He is a Greek mythological titan that was condemned to do this.
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He was forced to lift the sky (not the Earth), because he fought against the Olympians in the Titanomachy. Heracles actually managed to lift it temporarily too when he completed one of his labours.
I've held up the earth too but you don't hear me bragging about it in mythology books.
I wonder if you'll ever need this information again
It gives context for many art pieces. Not the worst bit of knowledge to aspire to using...
Ohhhhhhh , thanks for that
So is atlas in Australia or the guy starting the Olympics?
Some of yall never read the Percy Jackson series and it shows.
This was an absolutely baffling comic. Now I see it’s because the creator got what atlas did completely wrong. Here I thought I was missing something…
sorry to be that guy but Atlas held up the sky not the earth
He's holding it up with his feet
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Since he's carrying the earth (yes i know the mythological Atlas is supposed to carry the celestial sphere, but this is comic atlas), then from the perspective of someone walking on the earth atlas would be upside down, with the earth on his shoulders.
Holding up the earth doesn’t even make sense. Holding up the sky is immediately intuitive.
What the hell. Wishbone lied to me!
It’s leg day
I’m a big fan of this comment
I see a few people in the comments being surprised that Atlas actually held the sky and not the earth, so here's a couple other misconceptions about Greek mythology: - Narcissus did not drown. He starved to death. He was also only 16 and was cursed by some bitter guy for the crime of rejecting him. He thought his reflection was someone else entirely, so it's not actually narcissism. - Medusa did not turn people to stone. They just dropped dead when they saw her. - Achilles did not have unpierceable skin. Even gods can and do get stabbed in the Illiad, it would make no sense for a mortal to be that way. Achilles is, however, given an unpierceable armour at a point where he doesn't have much of a will to live or defend himself. It makes more sense than the weird styx-dipping bit. - Eros was not exclusively a baby. He often took the form of a teen or even a young man. Had a bunch of kids in those forms. - Apollo, on the other hand, was not meant to look like an adult. He's a beardless youth (not a child, what we'd call a teenager). He also very much behaves like a young person, he's very emotional as far as gods go. - Hades is not really analogous to Satan. He's not uniquely evil, he just got suckered. He's objectively less despicable than Poseidon and Zeus.
> Medusa did not turn people to stone. They just dropped dead when they saw her. The extent of my Greek mythology knowledge comes from Immortals Fenyx Rising, so I know virtually nothing about it, but the [Wikipedia page about Medusa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medusa) does say: > Those who gazed into her eyes would turn to stone. Is this actually wrong? And if so where can I learn more?
Is not wrong,it depends on the version of the story you read or heard back then.
look in the references of the wikipedia page to see where the quote comes from
Rick Riordan has lied to me
Aren't most these just depending on which Greeks you're listing to? Like with Perseus taming Pegasus, the common image we have comes from one tradition but there is a probably older tradition of it being someone else? Like Joker origin stories, or rebooted franchise - both exist and it's upto you to decide which you prefer. Perseus is described by Greek authors turning people to stone with Medusa's head isn't he?
That's it, there's dozens of version of these major stories and neither is the true or official one.
I hate posts like these,the Greek myths didn't have canonical or non canonical versions like modern media does, something like whether or not Medusa gaze turned people into stone depended on whether you heard the story,same as everything else you mentioned
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Greece
I didn't enjoy this *at all*. 😕
the pillar in the back is already broken?
We have broken modern structures, too. Shit breaks, yo.
Because this actually happened last week
Really old marble, Minoan vs Mycenae Greeks.... Or someone tripped
Why is he upside down?
Since he's carrying the earth (yes i know the mythological Atlas is supposed to carry the celestial sphere, but this is comic atlas), then from the perspective of someone walking on the earth atlas would be upside down, with the earth on his shoulders.
Everything is relative. That's what makes the comic humorous. I often imagine that my gas pedal does not move my car forward, but causes the earth underneath me to move. Same idea.
Atlas held the sky, not the Earth
🤓
Guy should fix the column in the background. Doesn't look like it's that old at the time the conversation takes place. Take better care of your stuff!
Is he in Australia?
This is so smart, i love it!
Haha, nice one
If his clothes worked realistically, he would totally be flashing everyone.
No he is holding the earth *up* therefore *down* is below him.
Although what he carries looks like an earth he in fact carries a sky sphere so he carries a sky while standing on earth. But it’s still funny.
if he rotated his right hand just right to a certain angle he would've made a specific symbol
Lol first time reading one of your comics. I like your style, keep it up!
He's clearly carrying the sky on his knees
"Well, thanks for inviting, me I guess, but I don't really care for it." *Atlas shrugged*
I don't mean to criticize but I believe that the last panel would read better if it were "Oh right. Sorry to bother you, Atlas." I know it's quite anal bit that's my only gripe. I really enjoyed the comic
Lmao I never thought of atlas that way
He's a titan, so I'm pretty sure he's bigger than that.
I meant upside down
Yes top. Not ok
And you still shouldn't, because in Greek mythology held up the sky, not the Earth.
Wasn’t it the world instead ?
Nope, the sky. Heracles actually managed to hold it up too for a small time. Atlas was forced to hold up the sky as punishment for his part in the Titanomachy.
He always held the sky
This makes... a bit more sense than the original story.
But Altas holds up the sky
You should post it also in r/accidentalswastika
Nope, check the arms.
He's carrying the earth through a handstand.
Atlas buggered
Should have had him shrug and then turn the comic into a bioshock spoof
Ever since I started imagining myself pushing the earth away from me, pushups have become way more enjoyable.
🤣
His beard go upward lol.
Wait, how come the "Timed Headstand" never made it into the Olympics?
this comic is clever, insightful and funny. very nice!
TIL Atlas is Australian
I don’t get it
Haha it's like that illusion. He looks like he's smiling/smirking upside down but when you turn the screen he's serious af.
I understand cuz I’m greek
That's a comic flat-earthers won't get..
Took me a minute to figure out he wasn't doing a hand stand to hold up his balls.
Must be in Australia.
Wait, he's holding the sky with his feet?
Lol