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SpentSquare

This item is called the histomap. A coworker had one and while interesting, it is far from complete. A neat visualization nonetheless. “The Histomap was originally designed by John B. Sparks and published by Rand McNally in 1931 and was presented as an easy-to-understand visual infographic of world history.” [Source (can buy from website)](https://www.thehistomap.com/about)


yods35

Sold out. 😢


vonrobbo

This is one of those things that I could spend hours going over. Awesome!


BobbyGrichsMustache

This was the coolest part about winning a game of Civ back in the day


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BobbyGrichsMustache

Good bot!


TomatoTunaCan

for me it was AOE2


Bender_23

100%


NorthNerr

If you are interested in these kind of diagrams, I found something in Public Domain Review a few days ago. Here is a link of it: [Stream of Time](https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/stream-of-time)


Renan_Cousland

India and China from the start to the end.


francesfu

Disappointed to see the Americas erased from history as if their history begins with colonization.


Open-Accountant-665

1350: South America 😎


VolatileUtopian

I think one of the biggest things is there's not enough information mostly due to the effects of that colonization. But even the little info we do have is super interesting even just the way different groups counted things is cool.


a_foxinsocks

I was thinking this. And how it almost looks like it’s saying that Mexico is in South America?


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francesfu

They most certainly had power. That power was absolutely acknowledged by the many people living in the Americas.


UrbanizeO4W

This is more like a chart of relative power and influence over Europe, the Middle East, North Africa, and, to a lesser extent, the Indian subcontinent. It's hard to compare classical military powers that would have never had any direct interaction with Western powers (Like the Han Dynasty which had around 30% of the global population at its height).


_xGizmo_

But this guide sucks because it doesn't include every single civilization that ever existed across the entire globe in one image /s


UrbanizeO4W

It's not the inclusion that's the issue. It's that the "power" is weighted towards Western History influence. The guide claims that the Roman Empire has 6-7 times more "power" than Han Dynasty China in the 1st century. And more than half of all power in the world. That's a stretch.


_xGizmo_

Yes I agree that the x-axis 'influence' rating is completely arbitrary and subjective


FeelingsShop

Do you really think it's out of bounds for someone to suggest that a pop history/grand narrative historical guide from the 1930s, aimed at Anglosphere audiences may have some shortcomings in how it approaches and presents global history? Or are you just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian?


_xGizmo_

I already conceded down the thread that the 'power' representation is complete BS and western-biased. My only complaint is when people expect every civilization to be represented on an infographic limited in size that already covers all of recorded history. E.g. someone complaining about lack of American civilizations. To me it makes more sense (especially with the inclusion of an 'influence' scale) to focus on civilizations that actually interacted with each other, directly or indirectly. The graphic is already stuffed as it is, you have to make concessions. And yes it was made in the 1930's, but for the time it's remarkable how detailed it is. People are obsessed with the negatives. It's not like someone made this today.


Foo_bogus

While I can agree with that criteria, the Spanish Empire is totally misrepresented.


platinums99

This probably needs an update look 20 years old.


No_Communication5538

It is circa 100yrs old


Digital-Soup

It was published in 1931


platinums99

Wow I would love to see how it's changed with all the modern research


stefanomsala

What a throwback: My parents got this some 40 years ago and I remember it from when I was a toddler. For the times it was a good attempt to put things in perspective. From today’s pov, one could argue that the perspective was skewed and very Euro-centric. Looks great on a wall, though


OhMy-Really

Right at the bottom, **Sharpie pen “made world uninhabitable”**


md4moms

Cool, but very western bias


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JePPeLit

I think China is underestimated and it feels like they split Europe into seperate powers more than other groups


Freshiiiiii

There were American civilizations that had massive power during this time (Aztecs, Inca, Maya, Mississippian, Haudenosaunee), but they don’t get discussed because the author doesn’t see them as important. Also large empires in Africa. These may not have been as huge as the Roman Empire, but they were easily as big or bigger than some of the smaller European powers that made it on the map.


nagahdoit

Read “like” a fucking fifth grade history book, clown.


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nagahdoit

Not sorry douche - autocorrect doesn’t make the point any less valid.


denverblazer

Well yeah, it was Rand McNally in 1931..


drnnstt

Thought this was awesome and then realized how messed up that Australia has no reference to aboriginal history and New Zealand none to Māori.


ArieWess

The third line in the title explains why.


GadiZelay

Am I missing something or did Africa not have a history (or is it not part of the "world")?


Atillawurm

Egypt is on there as well as Ethiopia.


ArieWess

It is about the relative power, and not about cultural relevance or other historical qualities.


GadiZelay

[Mansa Musa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansa\_Musa) was pretty big... But I get what you mean.


Briz-TheKiller-

Indian Hindu history is all wrong


StainedBlue

Modern day relative power seems kinda sus


Kitchen_Equipment_21

Probably half the truth


TirrKatz

I think there are mostly problems with naming. Like Russia didn't exist in 9th century, but there was "Land of Rus' ". That's quite wrong to claim it with the name of the modern country. With the same logic it could be named as Belarus or Ukraine.


jparadise506

Bahahahahahahaha, no. Africa has an amazing heritage and so does America. The Pacific was a thing, it's big, a lot bigger tha u can imagine and there a amazing things still unanswered


brounstoun

This isn't about "cultural value" or "heritage",: it's about relative power. Africa didn't have any power/influence over events in the way the other major counties on this map did


Spacelord_Jesus

American has its place there. Its Just Not as big or old as you might think in comparison to world history


jparadise506

https://youtu.be/__BaaMfiD0Q Waaaaay better


buzda06

Really cool, but it is missng so much of East Asian history.I would like to see an updated modern one.


nagahdoit

Christian history only recognizes the last 4,000 years. LOL.


Dearlyreassail

Ha,China is the only one that touchs both sides


thankyouhellogames

India


DisplayZestyclose415

I always loved looking at this when I was a kid.


TheCreazle

Oh wow, I have this one on my wall


juliawww

Wow so cool.. thanks for this! Yea I think I could spend hours on it too. ;)


MorgrainX

Do we have a high qualify version of this?


CDJMC

super interesting to look at!


Acamantide

We have 30 years before the Mongols come back


StarMan0713

They spelled Poltava wrong


mandrakeintraining

That's pretty wild. I love the visual representation


ededdeddie123

According to whom? :-)


wonderful_nonsense

I have one of those at home. Pretty interesting it to see it online


thomashelonblum

How to save this by the app without poor quality? When download the image turn blured :/


Disfattbidge1

The Aryan Invasion Theory assigned to India's history has been scholarly debunked multiple times by both Indian and Western researchers so I fail to understand why people still keep pushing this narrative as if the theory has any profound evidence to support it's occurrence. For those who wish to have a different perspective https://youtu.be/1bsyi4zYHP0


gr8mamuffins

This type of context is what I was always missing from history class! Well…this… and the fact that we learned western civ 4 different times instead of being able to take literally any other history class.


fluidzero

This is helpful.


Gloomy-Concentrate-2

Macedonia is Greek 🇬🇷💪🇬🇷💪🇬🇷


Moira-Thanatos

This should be number one guide on coolguides


BendedIronside

Lagahble..


-becausereasons-

VERY COOL! Next time someone says the term "cultural appropriation" show them this graphic.


nagahdoit

Cultural appropriation refers to when one monetizes a culture while preventing said culture to effectively earn from their creation. Elvis Presley is an easy example. Black artists were major contributors to the sound he used while simultaneously having limited ability to scale their earnings because of the color of their skin. Meanwhile … Elvis became so rich he died of gluttony.


-becausereasons-

Nope, it has nothing to do with money. Although it 'may' in some cases in volve money. It's actually quite a vague concept which has been misused, and has suffered from considerable concept creep since it's inception. "Cultural appropriation takes place when members of a majority group adopt cultural elements of a minority group in an exploitative, disrespectful, or stereotypical way. To fully understand its consequences, though, we need to make sure we have a working definition of culture itself."


nagahdoit

Exactly wrong


pappazeuss

That was a pretty good analysis.


FeelingsShop

Sounds like your analysis needs a lot more nuance, but ok.


opposite_days

Low key looks like a floppy vagina