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Grand Lisboa hotel, China

Grand Lisboa hotel, China

fan_tas_tic

I kind of like it, [when it's all sparkl](https://www.uniqhotels.com/grand-lisboa-macau)y and the photo is taken from street level, it looks like a giant blooming flower. The golden facade also doesn't make it look evil. If this was a pure matt black building, then it would look wicked.


gabrrdt

In some alternative timeline, Grand Lisbon is the center of the Portuguese Empire (the biggest empire on earth) and Macau is just like New York.


thebabyshitter

sometimes i think how my tiny little country that only has as many people as los angeles county and doesn't even matter much in a global setting nowadays had such a vast empire once and it's kinda crazy


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thebabyshitter

wow i didnt even know we went that far that's crazy, what's your last name? if you dont mind of course!


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RegularSloth

There is a famous Doctor in Brazil with this same last name. Dr. Drauzio Varella.


RealButtMash

Lol funny he deleted his comments


kanaka_maalea

My family's heritage goes from Portugal, to Macau, to Hawaii.


NobleAzorean

If the Portuguese side comes from Hawaii most likely its from the Azores or Madeira. Portugal was the original getting rabdom rocks in the middle of nowhere.


poofintoots

Your desserts are everywhere. In Asia, particularly Taiwan and HK, the Portuguese egg tart is like a traditional dessert. You can even get them Portuguese style with a carmelized top. They even sell them at KFCs there lol


genghis-san

Tbh, I grew up in Asia, and only recently found out they were Portuguese. I thought they were Chinese for years.


aVarangian

further even, some 1000 Naus sailed east, a few going all the way to China and Japan


kanaka_maalea

My family's heritage goes from Portugal, to Macau, to Hawaii.


boris_keys

Grand Theft Spice Trade


Shikizion

literally this, the Turks closed the spice trade, well we just went around them


Tachanka-Chan123

Briton here and while the UK is bigger that Portugal and still has some relevancy it's crazy thinking that my country used to own so much land and have as massive navy and economy and then that's all gone poof and we're a regional power at best in 60 years.


Rooyal14

r/suddenlycaralho


Martian_Shuriken

Isn’t that Brazil


Rooyal14

It is macau, an old portuguese commercial outpost in the south of China, like Hong Kong.


Martian_Shuriken

I mean the sub


Rooyal14

I've seen some portuguese people so i think it is for everyone that speaks portuguese


GlaerOfHatred

True, also, remember Mongolia?


PHDesignsGFX

I'm from madeira so the impact is even crazier lmao


soulfullofsnowflakes

Also murdered and butchered and raped across pagan cultures.


Politikr

That's enough man in the high castle for ypu!


Quenya3

But what about Djibouti?


udderlymoovelous

Cool building! [Here is another photo of this building shared on this sub that I found to be really interesting](https://reddit.com/r/evilbuildings/comments/878a3p/you_are_the_property_of_the_grandmaster)


morningfog

God it looks otherworldly


KushChowda

This the kind of shit you expect the Fire Nation to build.


sociapathictendences

I’ve been there and it isn’t surrounded by slums but it’s big enough that views like this are possible. And it absolutely it otherworldly.


aokaga

I know right? How can this be real architecture.


PMFSCV

Its an embarrassment to the entire profession.


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CapriorCorfu

Slums?? Those are far from being slums.


kittehlord

I took [this picture](https://www.reddit.com/r/UrbanHell/comments/efukke/grand_lisboa_macao/) in winter 2019 on my trip to China.


Boggie135

Isn't this in Macau?


hotdiggydog

Macau is part of China Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macau "...officially the Macao Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China."


Boggie135

I know that but it's also separate, and people refer to it by name when they talk about it. Even in China. And some of its laws differ from the mainland’s. For example, gambling is legal there(The Grand Lisboa is also a casino) but it is illegal in mainland China.


Midnight2012

Not anymore. New mainland laws basically stripped away all the special privileges of HK and Macao. Raiding pro-democracy newspaper offices. Its very sad.


Bloo3p

Macao is still the gambling center of the world


Marv_77

Not exactly stripped away in Macau tho, it's mostly towards Hong Kong but Macau is barely affected by the national security law


Midnight2012

Well there is less of a democracy movement to crush in Macao. Macao very much already steps in line. No need to cracks down.


AnEntireDiscussion

That and the CCP wouldn't want to interfere with that sweet-sweet gambling revenue.


Barrafog

Not just sweet-sweet gambling revenue but an exciting way to do money laundering for CCP officials.


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WalnutScorpion

This comment is the Yahoo answer to "how to get a free ticket to China".


BrockManstrong

Lol at how many chinese trolls you just pissed off


Midnight2012

KMT is the real Chinese government!


BlackfishBlues

KMT is not even the government in Taiwan at the moment.


Midnight2012

Yeah, that part was supposed to be funny


ZyglroxOfficial

I picture it like Scotland/Wales in the UK


xehcimal

I don't know how you're getting downvoted for literally just stating a fact, like it's been 20something years now


mfizzled

Probably more of a reddit thing than an American thing, people sometimes think Macau and Hong Kong are a lot more similar historically and politically than they actually are.


faerakhasa

Not that it should change anything, since Hong Kong *also is part of China*.


DenaliRaven

You are a part of China


MumbaiBooty

ish


jasenkov

No its not


Mechanic619

Because China Bad


RoundCat

Until they stop killing their minorities, yeah, pretty fucking bad.


Jaquemart

How nice to have our own killing of minorities safe in the past.


jasenkov

China bad =/= US not bad


fatelfeaper

Keyword past, genocide in China happening in real time.


Jaquemart

Native Americans' genocide happened in real time too. It was very real to them.


DisneyCA

Does the US own up to it? Yes. Does the US acknowledge its mistakes? Yes. Does the US kill everyone who mentions this? No. Ask the same questions for China.


Jaquemart

Now they do, but if course they keep whatever they took. Then they didn't.


guaxtap

Genocide with 0 deaths, do you even understand what you are saying, or you just repeat buzz words


fatelfeaper

0 STATE OFFICAL deaths I'm sure. How much social credit are you makong off of this?


guaxtap

Don't worry minorities in china are growing and thriving, this isn't the usa where they enslave africans, genocide the natives, ban minorties


DisneyCA

Whataboutism at its finest. We are talking about China here not US


guaxtap

Point is usa or western countries has no moral high ground to preach to china. Also don't cry whataboutism when u can't argue, just admit it


DisneyCA

Then does the rest of the world get to lecture China then? Europe? Australia? And you possibly can’t think that what the US today is worse than the CCP? It’s also funny how the things you talked about the US are all from the past (something they admitted their mistake to and not censor anyone from talking about it, unlike some Asian country. ***cough***) Also r/genzedong poster… sounds about right


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earthmoonsun

reddit is not 100% American.


BeautifulType

Bro you realize USA is asleep when it was posted right


Krinder

I’d say it probably has more to do with Chinese trolls being pissed about Macua being called Macau and not China. I don’t think Americans really give a rats ass honestly


xx_mitochondrion_xx

That makes no sense. Macau still refers to a certain area. You wouldn't call Shanghai China just because it's part of China.


Krinder

I wasn’t giving an opinion was just stating that it’s the Chinese that are probably more butt hurt about this than any Americans would be... which I think u maybe helping to prove. Then again I have no idea where you’re from. But speaking as an American you could call Macau: shit-sandwich, China and I wouldn’t be able to possibly express how little of a shit I’d give.


xx_mitochondrion_xx

No? Chinese have no problem calling Hong Kong its name for example.


Krinder

I think you’re completely misunderstanding me.


xx_mitochondrion_xx

Not at all; you've made some completely baseless and illogical statements. I'm a little amazed by the incredible mental gymnastics to conclude that saying "Macau is part of China" will be downvoted by pro-china Redditors and not the anti-china Redditors.


DisneyCA

They honestly do… same for Taiwan. They hate it when people say Hong Kong instead of “Hong Kong, China” and when people say “Taiwan” instead of “Taiwan, China” [Edit: read this article before you downvote me](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49354017.amp)


xx_mitochondrion_xx

In what context do say this? Like when they're making a passive aggressive political statements in an argument? Cause nobody says "I'm going to visit Hong Kong, China" in casual settings.


super_grasshopper

I dont get your point. The place is called Macau and it's in China, everyone agrees on that, Chinese or American. Why would this factual assertion annoy anyone ?


dai_tz

What are talking about, it literally has a name in Chinese 澳门.


Krinder

I don’t think you are understanding what I’m saying. And based on these responses you’re actually only further proving me right. Chinese people are the only ones who give a shit about this! That’s my point! So why would Americans be the ones downvoting your various view points about what is named what? We don’t care anywhere near as much as you do (assuming you’re Chinese). That’s my point.


dai_tz

You are just being corrected after you said something incorrect, no biggie.


coach111111

Wow that’s a whole lot of assumptions crammed into one person (assuming you are one ;).


PassionateAvocado

Tell us you've never been to Macau without telling us you've never been to Macau 😂


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PassionateAvocado

Then you would know that nobody there calls it china. Everyone refers to it is Macau. You're a troll, cool.


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PassionateAvocado

So you contradict the intent of your original statement?


PassionateAvocado

Thanks for the award! I appreciate your concession in this back and forth 😂


MrAirplaneTicket

Americans are annoyed they are becoming the smaller superpower :/


guaxtap

Pretty much, anxiety from the new superpower. But they will claim it's about human rights, talk about hypocrisy


goodboy3245

But not Taiwan, Rip John Cena


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tranquil21

Are you a human?


anything_butt

F


walktwomoons

Technically correct, but having had its own unique recent developmental history and cultural identity, people familiar with Macau (and Hong Kong) usually make the distinction and would never refer to them as "China". It would be a bit like referring to a photograph of Mauna Kea as "United States" instead of Hawaii.


hotdiggydog

I'm not saying that OP shouldn't have written "Macau" instead of "China", for the sake of precision. For obvious reasons, Hawaii-US and Macau-China are not comparable. In the same vein, Macau-China and HK-China do not share the same history. Macau is a part of China just as the island of Manhattan is a part of the US. Geographically speaking, Macau is a part of China, it's just off the coast. And while Macau has its own identity due to the Portuguese era, this is a cultural topic and not a geographical topic. So this isn't a matter of what people identify as, it's purely just a matter of categorizing a picture from where it's from. And someone asked "Isn't this in Macau?" and yes, which is also a part of China.


fat_stig

It's a Special Administrative Region (SAR) like Hong Kong. It has it's own currency and passport, a population of 680k and a gambling industry 7 times larger that Las Vegas, mostly Chinese mainland punters. Edit: Cool edit dude.


hotdiggydog

You're right... but it's also "officially the Macao Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China" according to Wikipedia. Sounds like it's part of the PRC. Care to explain? Genuinely interested


Fleming24

People also call the Unincorporated territories of the United States like Puerto Rico and similar regions like Gibraltar by their own names and not just the nation they belong to. And generally the both SARs, Macau and Hong Kong, as well are not referred to as simply China.


SPQR191

He's not disagreeing with you; Reddit just isn't a big fan of China.


fnljstce_thewhite

Considering you have to cross a border from China to Macau, and get visa entry to that country, I’ll still call Macau Macau and not China.


mfizzled

Gotta love reddit


anything_butt

Everything's a bit China at this point


JazzMusicOwO

Looks like the kind of building that's actually a huge rocket


Commissar_Matt

What makes it worse is all the shanties and makeshift houses well within sighting range of this monstrous hotel. You really don't have to walk far, and its visible for some distance. The sheer opulance of the large casinos in Macao in general is insane.


SPQR191

Those are actually fairly normal looking apartments just with colorful roofs. On street view they look like any apartment building I've seen in Europe. They don't have a unified form, but that's probably more a consequence of haphazard urban planning than of poor quality.


TorTheMentor

I've seen the street view and had the same thought. It just looked like it could be a dense residential-commercial area pretty much anywhere.


Commissar_Matt

My comment is based on my visit to Macao a few years ago. Though shanty is perhaps a strong word to use, the housing is very run down, and the Grand Lisboa is well within sight of these small run down apartments.


SPQR191

Fair enough, but it's not like it's really that different from most apartments; landlords don't often polish their apartments to look nice in the same way most people don't change their siding on their house until it starts to look like a crack den. It's just not something they would do unless they're trying to sell the building because tenants care about the inside, not the curb appeal.


mamaBiskothu

Macau residents have a fairly substantial UBI so not that terrible of a life - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_Partaking_Scheme


madscandi

That's about a thousand dollars a year. Not exactly substantial in a region with one of the highest GDPs per capita in the world.


VonHindenBiden

there were some drab apartments but i didnt see any shanties when i was there. macau is too crowded to leave any space undeveloped to be occupied by shanties. That would be luxury. The average hong konger has a far worse standard of living than the average macanese


joogipupu

To me, those most dingy looking buildings look like just pretty normal older apartment buildings. They might look a bit worn down outside, but can be very nice inside.


Midnight2012

Alot of those are literally house built on top of large apartment buildings. They sometimes even have lawns up there.


tape_town

looks like india had sex with the 1930s


QuittingSideways

While on absinthe….


SevereOctagon

r/BrandNewSentence


Sasasamker

Looks like an old Nokia


belleruin

I can smell the air just looking at this picture


Sir_Sytham

I mean it’s more Macau then China but sure


Medium_Rare_Child

*Macau


A-Normal-Fifthist

yeah, so part of china


hoointhebu

Yeah, about as much as Puerto Rico or Guam being part of the United States.


Enshaedn

So, 100%? Unique administrative status and cultural history ≠ sovereignty.


_Oooooooooooooooooh_

They have their own currency though


an_undecided_voter

When I was in Macau long ago all vendors preferred to use HK dollars instead. Their currency felt worthless.


VonHindenBiden

i had no problems getting it accepted, but it was all the same exchange rate anyway.


_Oooooooooooooooooh_

Which is technically also not "china"


New-Reaction5944

I use Schrute bucks in my house so therefore my home is part of Schruteburg


ultralame

So... China.


AdoboSwaggins

Exactly. Macau is “mainland china” in the same way that San Diego is “basically tijuana”


ili_udel

More like Macau is "mainland China" in the same way that San Diego is "mainland US"


AdoboSwaggins

So…. you realize that [macau is an island](https://wikitravel.org/upload/shared//thumb/7/7f/Macao-map.png/370px-Macao-map.png), yes?


DungeonDefense

So? Hainan is also an island


ili_udel

What's your point? Your first comment wasn't about Macau being an island, it was about Macau not being a part of China. And are you not gonna consider Long Island, for example, a part of the mainland USA? Yeah, technically Macau is an island but that wasn't your original point and it being an island is completely irrelevant


Living-A-Meme

Bro give up lol


SuperBlaar

Maybe evil.. But really cool looking.


chaseinger

evil is not the same as weird, cool or different, but i honestly don't care that this sub is more and more leaving the path of evil and just shares interesting architecture, except with the colors all weird and photographed in the fog.


tiorancio

I almost [took it out in 2013](https://postimg.cc/QBDJqWKW)


uw888

It's like an evil Queen from a Disney movie.


ThrowawayPurvurt

“What architectural styles do you want?” “Yes”


Antares42

Interestingly, the round building in the lower right corner is the original Hotel Lisboa, built in 1970. The Grand Lisboa was built as an extension in 2006. You can see the bridge connecting the two.


antmman

Do I go here to play mini games to win Materia?


abibofile

The top of this building has the same general shape as the sign on Biff Tannen’s casino in Back to the Future II… https://images.app.goo.gl/sUxpkjbaYvRhM2PMA


chunter16

Macau is also the home of [this](https://youtu.be/HFLV2lTzXnM)


faithle55

Looks tacky enough to be a Trump hotel.


DNZ_not_DMZ

Hey, I’ve had dinner in that cupola atop the building. Restaurant is called “Robuchon au Dome”. It’s good!


CFGauss2718

Maybe this is too pedantic for reddit but AFAIK this is in Macau, which like Hong Kong is a small region controlled by mainland China, but yet has quite a distinct feel to it owed (in part) to it's colonial history (Portugal).


FallingLedge

There are some pictures of this thing from the ground that look like something straing out of cyberpunk


random___pictures1

It’s in Macao


brodhisattva3

Looks like a mix of Zurg and Aku


pikachfa

Looks like a commode for some reason.


Adept_Band_9718

If its illegal to gamble in China then why are all the Chinese guys I know BIG TIME gamblers?


AnEntireDiscussion

Why do I expect there to be an 1000 year old sorcerer living on the top floor?


Jwchick

Reminds me of those Godzilla buildings in the 70s movies. Quite gaudily.


Chinkreddit

Wtf, why have I never seen this cool ass looking building before today???


TheSodomeister

Gaudy af


DukeSamuelVimes

Damn that building is huge.


minorevolution

Golden Saucer from Final Fantasy 7 vibes


TinyCowpoke

Grand Lisboa Hotel, Macau, West Taiwan*


MirriMazDuur

Am I the only one who is conpletely terrified of huge buildings?


Fez_and_no_Pants

Nope. I don't walk anywhere near them if I don't have to. I always feel like they are one second away from falling on me.


FreudsPoorAnus

or, coming to life as mindless idiot screaming death machines, offended by the living and stamping out life to subdue the pain of their own hollow existence. gigantic statues as well. gigantic buddhas, mindless, hundreds of feet tall, smashing people indifferently or perhaps out of a stupid sense of drooling enjoyment. short of fighter jets, nothing agonizing or quick death, the buildings indifferent to suffering.


l0k5h1n

You mean in the "Autonomous" Region of Macau?


letsnotansaywedid

I am a spoiled mother ducker and I’ve been in here! It was an experience I will legit never forget. Let’s just say the sound of Bob Marley’s ‘Exodus’ now makes me think if fishnetted asses, and leave it at that.


motiv8_mee

Oh man, I must’ve gone at the wrong time! When I was in, it was like any other low-key casino.


des_cho

It's an ugly building for me. Its neck should be longer, like twice the height to make it better looking.


dear_twitter

Looks like The Grand Lisboa!


FerjustFer

Yeah, who could have imagined!


MackTO

What Trump would build if it wasn't for all those pesky city planning regulations he has to follow.


Shakespeare-Bot

What trump would buildeth if 't be true t wasn't f'r all those pesky city planning regulations he hast to followeth *** ^(I am a bot and I swapp'd some of thy words with Shakespeare words.) Commands: `!ShakespeareInsult`, `!fordo`, `!optout`


sahdahsah

I legitimately don't trust any building built in China


DonneyZ

Ewww China!


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MirriMazDuur

China isn't a race


fat_stig

Han Chinese is a race, China is a country and it's people are mostly ok but the Chinese Communist Party are the modern incarnation of the devil. Stand with Hong Kong.


DonneyZ

We need another 10-15 years until people will wake the fuck up and realize that communist China isn't a race.


A-Normal-Fifthist

when has anyone ever called china a race except for like two people


earthmoonsun

I've been called racist a million times on reddit because of this shit. Actually everytime, you criticize the Chinese government, there come along a few idiots calling you a racist. Same with other easily triggered people like from Turkey or Azerbaijan. Russian and American nazis can also be butthurt quickly.


earthmoonsun

You're right about the race thing but only the name is communist.


Ramcharger8

If you're calling that China, you're as much of a bootlicker as John Cena


Bloo3p

Macao wants to be chinese


Donde_La_Carne

You’re a bootlicker if you’re ok with how Portugal got Macau in the first place.


Leto33

Who even says that Macao isn’t China?


PinkSploosh

I think it looks amazing


fat_stig

Looks like Ming the Merciless to me