French language is mesmerizing
By - HannibalGoddamnit
Dutch and German also say nine-ninety, it's really confusing as when spelling phone numbers people tend to split it up in sections of 2 numbers so when someone says 24 I have to translate that to 2 4 and be careful not to write 4 2
Doesn't German say nine and ninety (neunundneunzig)? Because it's the same in Hindi also (निन्यानवे)।
Yep! But the hundred goes before, so you get things like dreihundertvierundachtzig (384).
हां, ऐसा हिंदी में भी होता है – 384 = तीन सौ चौरासी।
and same in arabic ثلاث مئة و اربعة و ثمانون
edit: to make it say 384
edit 2: thanks to u/Simein for the اربعة و ثمانون
Counting in Arabic is just over complicated. Who thought having to know some 30 words only to count up to 100 was funny?
No its not in arabic its
اربعة وثمانون و ثلاثة مئة
That directly translates to "three hundred four and eighty", right?
But in Dutch that's the same. NegenENnegentig.
Sometimes you'll see archaic English saying "nine and ninety."
24... 24 hours in a day, four-n-twenty hours a day. 420 hours day... No wonder the Dutch are always high!
We're quite low actually. About5 meters below sea level on average
Happy Blue Cheese Day!
That some pretty dry humour coming from someone under water
That's why we have dikes
Would give you an award, but I don’t have any, so have this: **award**
and gets himself an Award...ironic
Oh so that's why dutch people are tall. Keep your head above water like Nessie
So it's like saying nineteen (NINE & TEN/TEEN)
Yeah exactly, for example 24 is pronounced vierentwintig in dutch, or four-and-twenty
in German vierundzwanzig...you get the similarities yeah?
This is one of the things I hate about my language. If you want to say 25 you say "5 and 20"
French jay z be like: i got 4 20 10 9 problems but the....
imagine saying " quatre-vingt dix-neuf problèmes"
We are the ones who changed them.
I'm from Romania and because Romanian is a latinic language and Stalin died I study French as my 3rd language
that was kinda random but okay
Yeah well I took one semester of French in high school in the US and got a B+
I took Spanish in high school. I know I had semesters of French and Latin in middle school, but remember nothing.
well i'm from north africa and i have to study french as a first language while abondoning arabic my native language :3
Damn, I'm french and it hurts my soul to read this. Which country?
I mean I love my language and I'm glad more and more people learn it but knowing that you have to learn it as a first language probably just because my country colonised yours in the past, at the cost of a language that was spoken here since much longer.
Pick any country in Africa and you have the same story, just different colonizers and different native languages being lost.
In the Netherlands where I live, it’s a obligated subject in high school.
As a French Canadian citizen, it breaks my brain everyday.
As a Canadian citizen who takes Arabic classes, I simply just gave up on numbers.
Just looked it up and holy sh\*t, why does the 5 look like an 0 and why does the 16 look like a 17, what
In all fairness, everyone else took the numbers from Arabic. We are the ones who changed them.
To be fair, Arabic numbers written in Arabic even confuse Arabs.
This coming from a Korean dude who is quadrilingual, and would joke about confusing Arabic numbers with Muslim friends. 🤔
You’re not quadrilingual, you’re a polyglot
How do you know he has more than one wife?
Wrong word. A polygamist is someone who has multiple wives, not a polyglot. When someone has one wife, they are a monogamist. And a bigamist is a large fog over Italy.
Many people doesn't know that 1,2,3,4 are actually Arabic numbers, but those you mentioned are Indian numbers, Arabic people uses Indian numbers and everyone else uses Arabic numbers.
Lol my native language is arabic and I hate those numerals. They are also confusing since you have to write from right to left. So when trying to write my number down I get confused as hell and get laughed at.
Fun fact: 0 1 2 ... are called arabic numerals since they were introduced to europe from north africa. The other numeral is called eastern arabic numerals.
Edit: Both numerals are pure indian inventions, arabic numerals (0,1,2...) were transferred by the arabs.
As a Wallon from Belgium when I hear "quatre-vingts dix-neuf" I fall in depression
as a Canadian citizen, ive completely gave up on french
And English, it seems.
Hey, no I'm... doesn't.
Wait... he aren't?
As a highschool student that learns French as the obligatory third language, I agree
I have the feeling that you're belgian.
Not in the slightest. I'm from Romania and because Romanian is a latinic language and Stalin died I study French as my 3rd language
I live in the Netherlands and while Dutch is not a Romance language I still had to learn it in school.
As nobody really gives a damn about French, I had to grow bilingual. That’s Quebec’s instinct of survival, bilingualism.
Lol c'est claire si vous êtes une minorité dans un pays majoritairement anglophone vous devez apprendre aussi la deuxième langue.
C'est vrai que ça peut être énervant pour les anglophones qui vivent au Québec, mais, après tout, c'est eux qui ont décidé d'habiter dans une province française.
Un autre québécois yay
Quatre vingt dix NUTS
Bilingual puns are the way to my heart.
\*laughs in nonante neuf\*
Are you Swiss? That's the only place I've heard *septante* & *nonante*.
Please tell the rest of the French-speaking world!
Imho French French (as in French from France) is way prettier than Belgian French. However, I rarely understand a frenchman, but i often understand belgian french speakers (i’m a dutch speaker btw)
As a Walloon Belgian-American, the most beautiful French accents to me are either the Marseilles or the Normandy accents. The Walloon dialects, including the Liègeois one I speak, are almost nasally in comparison, if easier to understand. And mine is worsened by the fact that I speak with a *slight* southern drawl in English that slips into my French periodically.
Imagine being a french speaker and living in belgium and saying " nonante-neuf problèmes"
**laughs in Belgian french** *nonante-neuf*
Also no need to fuck around with seventy *septante* either. Still use *quatre-vingt* though
Swiss french speakers have it figured out
Eighty sounds weird af but
*edit:* I would have assumed it was octante as well (sounds better imo) but then i looked it up and apparently it's huitante. Lol idk either sound weird to me
Meanwhile the German and Dutch say nine and ninety
1423 becomes thousand fourhundred three and twenty. Gives me dyscalculia just thinking about it. I often reverse numbers because of it.
In British English (at least where I'm from) it's fairly common to hear people use that number order but only for time. So you might say "It's 5 and 20 past 6" to mean 06:25.
then ur in french class and they tell you to write 1235764 in words
Un million deux cent trente-cinq mille sept cent soixante-quatre?
And snoop dogg would just stop at 4 20
Le Snoop Eighty Dogg
Me, an Australian: I Like Your Funny Words, Magic Man
Meanwhile, Walloon Jay Z be like: i got 90 9 problems...
In Wallonia, french-speaking Belgium, some people actually use ‘nonante-neuf’ (ninety-nine) instead of ‘quatre-vingt-dix-neuf’ (four twenty ten nine).
It's not just some people, it's the norm in Wallonia. But we still use "quatre-vingt", like the French.
In Swiss too
I am a French beginner and I have decided that I am going to go with this, quatre-vingt-dix-neuf is simply too much. I can barely speak French out, I don't want to do maths at the same time.
Septante, octante, nonante, simple and efficient
As a native French speaker i can say that we don't ''do math'' we only think of those numbers as they are said, it actually took me quite a while before i realised that ''quatre-vingt'' is actually 4x20, to me it only meant ''80''.
Or idk, Maybe i'm just the dumb one!
I'll admit that our numbers are kinda dumb though
Understandable, just the other day I realized that cigarettes are called cigarettes because they're just mini cigars.
Bruh i didn't know
I'm actually shocked
That makes sense. I definitely don’t think of “nineteen” as nine+te(e)n every time I say it.
what you said is true
Yes, in Belgium they use *septante* instead of *soixante-dix* and *nonante* instead of *quatre-vingt-dix*. Weirdly though, they still used *quatre-vingts*. In Switzerland *huitante* is used in some places instead of *quatre-vingts*.
You'll sometimes hear about octante, but it's actually not used in any French-speaking regions anymore.
Now you guys need to separate from Belgium, join France and export your ways to the rest of the francosphere.
Not some people, almost everyone in Wallonia uses "Nonante-neuf" instead of "Quatre-ving-dix-neuf". Same in Brussel.
Hahahaha I bet a lot of people would be confused on what the hell that is 😂
haha funny number
haha funny number
I thought those were airpods...
They've invented a letter for the AirPods? Absolute madlads
Before it was cool as well. Apple plagiarizing 👀
We are 4 parallel universes ahead of everyone
It actually has a pretty interesting origin! Back in the days, the Gauls used to count by twenty : ten, twenty, twenty ten, two twenty, etc
Then the modern way of counting (by ten) arrived and both models competed for a time until they "merged" into one. The most interesting point is that, most numbers derive from either system but 70 is "soixante-dix" : "sixty-ten", which is even weirder since "soixante" comes from the modern model but the idea of concatenating a "ten" comes from the traditional one, so it's a mix of both
In Switzerland we have different words for 70, 80 and 90, septante, huitante et nonante.
Same in Belgium.
My god, that sounds so much better!
Even huitante? I've never heard it in Belgium.
No, most people use quatre vingts, and you might hear octante but it’s rather rare.
Translation: zee Fronch, we are the insane, no?
Interesting, but still fucking stupid. I was in French immersion in school and math was so dumb in French, it just makes it harder for absolutely no reason.
Don’t think of it as "four-twenty-ten-nine" in because then you’re actually doing arithmetics in your head and it will show. Just think of it as "quatrevingtdixneuf" as if it’s a single word.
When I learned english in Quebec it never occurred to me that an anglophone would need to "count" to differentiate 80 from 90 in french. Am I getting this wrong?
>Just think of it as "quatrevingtdixneuf" as if it’s a single word.
Bro that's like 99 letters in one word
*German has entered the chat*
Just slur it all together. Half the letters in French are optional.
Same, I’m from Quebec and those numbers have always just been words to me, I’ve never broken them down into their separate numbers. Dix-sept just means seventeen, not ten-seven. Just like you don’t think seven-ten for seventeen.
When I was in France I asked people if they ever got confused hearing soixante-dix and "pictured" a "6X" in their head before they heard "dix" and corrected it to "7X". It was so weird to hear that no, that never happens (which is congruent with what you've said).
For me as an anglophone, yeah it's strange to a) hear 4-20 and have to convert to 80 and THEN b) hear 4-20-10 and convert the mental picture from 80 to 90. Now I'm sure if I spent a lot of time actually doing math in French, it would become more natural, but it's just not consistent with how we deal with numbers, where other than *maybe* 13-19 there is a complete connection from what's being said to what numerals show up.
Well we can't just change a language that have been used for that long juste like that, even if it's unpractical
Yes and no. There are already existing equivalent (septante, huitante/octante, nonante) which are used in other French-speaking languages. It doesn't take a lot to (a) recognise them as acceptable in official French (b) like every reform of the language, progressively start to teach them at school during the next decade (c) wait for 50 years or so for the current wording to progressively become considered as outdated.
It's not like there is an urgent need to change them, we just need to start using the better equivalents and let the natural evolution of the language happen.
I totally agree, it's something i do since i learn about those word and maths become less annoying
I mean you definitely can.... just... start teaching it in school. That's how most places do that lol
Oh, that's really cool
For those who don't know in french it works like :
And if you want to know more or just laugh check this vid https://youtu.be/9rmBqIFeHN8
THATS FOUR NUMBAHS FOR JUST ONE NUMBAH! WHOS GOT THE TIME?!
Can't believe i had to scroll down so much for this. Should be top imo. So funny
It's really funny reading these memes being French because you learn numbers at such a young age and in such a natural way that you never realize how complicated our system actually is. French people don't realize they're saying "4x20" when they say quatre-vingt, it's just our way of saying 80 and we don't put much thought in it.
It's one of those things that you don't realize how strange it is until you look at it from a different perspective. Like how in German (and I know other languages too) nouns are gendered. So like in English it is: the spoon, the fork, the knife. In German its: Der Löffel (masculine), die Gabel (feminine), das Messer (neutral). Growing up with it it's just something you know but I've met many non natives who said it's hell to learn because there's not much logic to why one thing is masculine but another is feminine or neutral. A lot of it is just a case of you have to know what's correct.
Exactly! It's the same in french.
That’s how it is for most indo-European languages. English is definitely the odd one out in that regard.
There is a lot a dumb stuff about English but I thank my stars that we don't have gendered nouns. I know i probably wouldn't notice if my native language gendered nouns but it just seems so bizarre from the outside.
Except in English there’s numbers 11-19 which don’t follow any of the other rules. People think mandarin is difficult, but at least the numbers make more sense (it’s 10+2 for 12, 10+3 for 13, 60+4 for 64 etc)
holy shit. I never realized this.
DK viking charging in with "9 AND 5 TWENTIES BUT USE ONLY HALF OF THE LAST TWENTY!!" (nioghalvfems)
How did it even become like this? Swedish and Norwegian counts normally yet the Danish system is beyond fucked.
Jeg har aldtid troet det var "halv fems" som i "4 1/2" altså lige som når klokken er halv fem.
4.5 * 20 = 90
Det er det også, på samme måde som halvtreds (2½ * 20 = 50).
Baguette Country... ASSEMBLE !
J'apporte les croissants !
God damn , Prends des pains au raisins aussi stp
Et aussi du comté stp je kiffe trop ptn
Pense au pains au chocolats aussi :D
Tous ces fragiles qui savent pas compter comme des beaux gosses.
Je kiffe les Amérloques qui veulent réformer une langue qui n'est pas la leur parce que sé tro dure
Surtout c'est plus effrayant quand c'est tes voisins... Calisse!
Salut , la forme ?
Ouais ça va, et toi ?
Comme un lundi mais tranquille, c'est bientôt le weekend Pepelaugh
I’ll award it
Je me mets pas dans la même équipe que la chocolatine dsl.
in arabic we say "nine and ninety". this is the literal translation.
In German its exactly the same
It's neuf or nothing
Haha quatre vingt dix-neuf go brrr
🎵 Four-twenty-ten-nine red balloons 🎵
You could also just say nonante-neuf...
Yes indeed that's how we call it in belgium, simple and not unnecessarily complicated 😂
they have not discovered the japanese counting system yet...
Japanese isn't too bad in this case. It's only nine ten nine.
Roman numerals, on the other hand... ten (less than) one hundred, one (less than) ten.
Yes technically in this case, but as soon as you start to count things, oh boi.
Yes, very true. Theres a word to count *everything*.
Everybody gangster until u have to count *small round objects*
*hitosu, futatsu, mittsu, yottsu, itsutsu...*
Excuse me, but these are completely different words
Ichika, Nino, Miku, Yotsuba, Istuki...
Oh, not the Nakano quintuplets?
Japanese counting is very simple until you get to big numbers since they count in 10,000s, I could never get my head around it. Thankfully most dealings with numbers are lower than that.
People's names are where the real shitshow begins
It's funny 'cause I'm learning Japanese and right now I'm watching a show to get used to the language. It's a reality show with 6 people. They were celebrating someone's birthday and used the wrong kanji when writing his name. Not even they can keep track of everything.
If you think about it, the English counting system and the Japanese counting system are almost identical, apart from the teens.
English: Three thousand, four hundred, seventy eight
Japanese: 三千四百七十八 (three, thousand, four, hundred, seven, ten, eight).
English just has special names for the tens because they're used often, and for the teens because of other languages that were mixed into English.
Edit: For large numbers, English and Japanese are the same as well, though we divide up our large numbers at different.
For example, 100,000 is "one hundred thousand" in English, and is「十万」(juuman, or ten ten-thousands) in Japanese.
Yes. I have been learning Chinese for a while and it is very easy to learn the counting system. And it actually makes math easier.
I also prefer Chinese grammar to any other language I have ever attempted to learn. I have no idea why other languages did not develop similar systems for grammar.
I'm half French, don't speak a lick; this is why.
So two-twenty and ten percent French?
My brain breaks more with every new comment
It’s like doing math while you say it. For example: 60 is « soixante » but 70 is « soixante-dix » so if you don’t know how to read it.. it basically says sixty+ten which makes 70. It gets a bit more complicated for 80 = « quatre-vingt » means 4x20 which equals 80. And for 90 it’s a bit like 70. So 90= « quatre-vingt-dix » you start the same way as 80 but you add 10 basically it’s 4x20+10. Hope it’s a bit more clear.
It does make some sort of sense, but as an uncultured, uncouth and thoroughly knackered Australian, my brain is stalling out at the thought of what might happen once you hit the thousands, or millions. But, I'd assume there are numerals specifically to represent those quantities, right?
(edit to say thank you for the extra clarification, appreciated!)
Nah, the weird things start with 70 : "soixante dix" equivalent to "sixty ten"
In Japanese, 99 would be "Kyuu-ju kyuu"
Chinese too, “9, 10, 9”
German: NEIN NEIN NEIN
No wonder the French have famous mathematicians when even simple numerals need arithmetics.
Just say 99 999 in french ! 😂
It’s 4 20 + 10 + 9
I'm glad I made it through the second year of taking French so that I never have to return to that kind of confusion again
more like (4 x 20) + 10 + 9
Belgiums be like :
« What are you talking about ? »
At least here in french Belgium we have a simpler way of saying those numbers
Except 80 for some weird reason, like you use septante and nonante but yet still use quatre-vingts.