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French language is mesmerizing

French language is mesmerizing

froggertthewise

Dutch and German also say nine-ninety, it's really confusing as when spelling phone numbers people tend to split it up in sections of 2 numbers so when someone says 24 I have to translate that to 2 4 and be careful not to write 4 2


pur__0_0__

Doesn't German say nine and ninety (neunundneunzig)? Because it's the same in Hindi also (निन्यानवे)।


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Yep! But the hundred goes before, so you get things like dreihundertvierundachtzig (384).


pur__0_0__

हां, ऐसा हिंदी में भी होता है – 384 = तीन सौ चौरासी।


wesamzxc

and same in arabic ثلاث مئة و اربعة و ثمانون edit: to make it say 384 edit 2: thanks to u/Simein for the اربعة و ثمانون


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Counting in Arabic is just over complicated. Who thought having to know some 30 words only to count up to 100 was funny?


_MoveSwiftly

Elaborate?


Simein

No its not in arabic its اربعة وثمانون و ثلاثة مئة


killersquirel11

That directly translates to "three hundred four and eighty", right?


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Yep!


theTman2300

But in Dutch that's the same. NegenENnegentig.


YUNoDie

Sometimes you'll see archaic English saying "nine and ninety."


xxmikachu

24... 24 hours in a day, four-n-twenty hours a day. 420 hours day... No wonder the Dutch are always high!


1_hele_euro

We're quite low actually. About5 meters below sea level on average


CF64wasTaken

Happy Blue Cheese Day!


1_hele_euro

Thank you


butyoufuckonegerbil

That some pretty dry humour coming from someone under water


1_hele_euro

That's why we have dikes


The_amazing_mudkip

Would give you an award, but I don’t have any, so have this: **award**


rvppi7

and gets himself an Award...ironic


Roseman_Jake

Trend setter


senorgraves

Oh so that's why dutch people are tall. Keep your head above water like Nessie


Random_Person_I_Met

So it's like saying nineteen (NINE & TEN/TEEN)


froggertthewise

Yeah exactly, for example 24 is pronounced vierentwintig in dutch, or four-and-twenty


rvppi7

in German vierundzwanzig...you get the similarities yeah?


SwootyOfficial

This is one of the things I hate about my language. If you want to say 25 you say "5 and 20"


paarth_1

French jay z be like: i got 4 20 10 9 problems but the....


rahimbettayeb

imagine saying " quatre-vingt dix-neuf problèmes"


XxGod_fucker69xX

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SureShare2446

We are the ones who changed them.


OkNarwhal5214

I'm from Romania and because Romanian is a latinic language and Stalin died I study French as my 3rd language


iraber

that was kinda random but okay


ThatBernie

Yeah well I took one semester of French in high school in the US and got a B+


Moruitelda

I took Spanish in high school. I know I had semesters of French and Latin in middle school, but remember nothing.


downvotemeifhomo

well i'm from north africa and i have to study french as a first language while abondoning arabic my native language :3


VictorLDX

Damn, I'm french and it hurts my soul to read this. Which country? I mean I love my language and I'm glad more and more people learn it but knowing that you have to learn it as a first language probably just because my country colonised yours in the past, at the cost of a language that was spoken here since much longer.


ipunkimunki

Pick any country in Africa and you have the same story, just different colonizers and different native languages being lost.


Hutspower

In the Netherlands where I live, it’s a obligated subject in high school.


urmomlikesmee

As a French Canadian citizen, it breaks my brain everyday.


Awesome_AR

As a Canadian citizen who takes Arabic classes, I simply just gave up on numbers.


ColdCypher

Just looked it up and holy sh\*t, why does the 5 look like an 0 and why does the 16 look like a 17, what


Gibborim

In all fairness, everyone else took the numbers from Arabic. We are the ones who changed them.


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To be fair, Arabic numbers written in Arabic even confuse Arabs. This coming from a Korean dude who is quadrilingual, and would joke about confusing Arabic numbers with Muslim friends. 🤔


MessyRoom

You’re not quadrilingual, you’re a polyglot


XyzzyPop

How do you know he has more than one wife?


phillipstheyerington

Wrong word. A polygamist is someone who has multiple wives, not a polyglot. When someone has one wife, they are a monogamist. And a bigamist is a large fog over Italy.


ahmedsamiir

Many people doesn't know that 1,2,3,4 are actually Arabic numbers, but those you mentioned are Indian numbers, Arabic people uses Indian numbers and everyone else uses Arabic numbers.


Empty_Direction_3102

Lol my native language is arabic and I hate those numerals. They are also confusing since you have to write from right to left. So when trying to write my number down I get confused as hell and get laughed at. Fun fact: 0 1 2 ... are called arabic numerals since they were introduced to europe from north africa. The other numeral is called eastern arabic numerals. Edit: Both numerals are pure indian inventions, arabic numerals (0,1,2...) were transferred by the arabs.


Wouf-wouf

As a Wallon from Belgium when I hear "quatre-vingts dix-neuf" I fall in depression


Ocbard

Nonante neuf?


Ploopy_R

as a Canadian citizen, ive completely gave up on french


VikaWiklet

And English, it seems.


ThatDoesNotFempute

Hey, no I'm... doesn't.


DeathPercept10n

Wait... he aren't?


Dimittrikov1995

As a highschool student that learns French as the obligatory third language, I agree


harmanplays1

I have the feeling that you're belgian.


Dimittrikov1995

Not in the slightest. I'm from Romania and because Romanian is a latinic language and Stalin died I study French as my 3rd language


QLVos

I live in the Netherlands and while Dutch is not a Romance language I still had to learn it in school.


urmomlikesmee

As nobody really gives a damn about French, I had to grow bilingual. That’s Quebec’s instinct of survival, bilingualism.


kostblind

Lol c'est claire si vous êtes une minorité dans un pays majoritairement anglophone vous devez apprendre aussi la deuxième langue.


JrmyF

C'est vrai que ça peut être énervant pour les anglophones qui vivent au Québec, mais, après tout, c'est eux qui ont décidé d'habiter dans une province française.


SNOWFUGITIVE

Un autre québécois yay


gfuhhiugaa

Quatre vingt dix NUTS


My_Shitty_Alter_Ego

Bilingual puns are the way to my heart.


ikkeson

\*laughs in nonante neuf\*


shiftyjamo

Are you Swiss? That's the only place I've heard *septante* & *nonante*.


ikkeson

Belgian 😃


shiftyjamo

Please tell the rest of the French-speaking world!


ikkeson

Imho French French (as in French from France) is way prettier than Belgian French. However, I rarely understand a frenchman, but i often understand belgian french speakers (i’m a dutch speaker btw)


Stonewall5101

As a Walloon Belgian-American, the most beautiful French accents to me are either the Marseilles or the Normandy accents. The Walloon dialects, including the Liègeois one I speak, are almost nasally in comparison, if easier to understand. And mine is worsened by the fact that I speak with a *slight* southern drawl in English that slips into my French periodically.


taritt17

Imagine being a french speaker and living in belgium and saying " nonante-neuf problèmes"


StubbsTheWolf

Heh, *dix*


OverconfidentPancake

**laughs in Belgian french** *nonante-neuf* Also no need to fuck around with seventy *septante* either. Still use *quatre-vingt* though Swiss french speakers have it figured out *septante* *huitante* *nonante* Eighty sounds weird af but **it's beautiful** *edit:* I would have assumed it was octante as well (sounds better imo) but then i looked it up and apparently it's huitante. Lol idk either sound weird to me


Ocbard

Meanwhile the German and Dutch say nine and ninety 1423 becomes thousand fourhundred three and twenty. Gives me dyscalculia just thinking about it. I often reverse numbers because of it.


WildCampingHiker

In British English (at least where I'm from) it's fairly common to hear people use that number order but only for time. So you might say "It's 5 and 20 past 6" to mean 06:25.


BooptheDop

then ur in french class and they tell you to write 1235764 in words


Bellringer00

Un million deux cent trente-cinq mille sept cent soixante-quatre?


space_audity

And snoop dogg would just stop at 4 20


MistahZig

Le Snoop Eighty Dogg


elch3w

Me, an Australian: I Like Your Funny Words, Magic Man


deegwaren

Meanwhile, Walloon Jay Z be like: i got 90 9 problems...


RowNor

In Wallonia, french-speaking Belgium, some people actually use ‘nonante-neuf’ (ninety-nine) instead of ‘quatre-vingt-dix-neuf’ (four twenty ten nine).


TheFabulousSquirrel

It's not just some people, it's the norm in Wallonia. But we still use "quatre-vingt", like the French.


leop9011

In Swiss too


FkIdkWhatNameToTake

I am a French beginner and I have decided that I am going to go with this, quatre-vingt-dix-neuf is simply too much. I can barely speak French out, I don't want to do maths at the same time. Septante, octante, nonante, simple and efficient


Algarik

As a native French speaker i can say that we don't ''do math'' we only think of those numbers as they are said, it actually took me quite a while before i realised that ''quatre-vingt'' is actually 4x20, to me it only meant ''80''. Or idk, Maybe i'm just the dumb one! I'll admit that our numbers are kinda dumb though


[deleted]

Understandable, just the other day I realized that cigarettes are called cigarettes because they're just mini cigars.


LazyLiMy

Bruh i didn't know I'm actually shocked


abstract-realism

That makes sense. I definitely don’t think of “nineteen” as nine+te(e)n every time I say it.


WilliShaker

what you said is true


CaptainLargo

Yes, in Belgium they use *septante* instead of *soixante-dix* and *nonante* instead of *quatre-vingt-dix*. Weirdly though, they still used *quatre-vingts*. In Switzerland *huitante* is used in some places instead of *quatre-vingts*. You'll sometimes hear about octante, but it's actually not used in any French-speaking regions anymore.


matihood1

Now you guys need to separate from Belgium, join France and export your ways to the rest of the francosphere.


CrommVardek

Not some people, almost everyone in Wallonia uses "Nonante-neuf" instead of "Quatre-ving-dix-neuf". Same in Brussel.


Katana_Quits

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FireStarJutsu

Hahahaha I bet a lot of people would be confused on what the hell that is 😂


Katana_Quits

٦٩ haha funny number


RidhaFA4

٤٢٠ haha funny number


eedodeedo007

ولعها!


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MajorTomintheTinCan

I thought those were airpods...


BaburMB

They've invented a letter for the AirPods? Absolute madlads


Eleberium

Before it was cool as well. Apple plagiarizing 👀


datepicegyptgamer

We are 4 parallel universes ahead of everyone


Leo_Helianthas

It actually has a pretty interesting origin! Back in the days, the Gauls used to count by twenty : ten, twenty, twenty ten, two twenty, etc Then the modern way of counting (by ten) arrived and both models competed for a time until they "merged" into one. The most interesting point is that, most numbers derive from either system but 70 is "soixante-dix" : "sixty-ten", which is even weirder since "soixante" comes from the modern model but the idea of concatenating a "ten" comes from the traditional one, so it's a mix of both


CornelXCVI

In Switzerland we have different words for 70, 80 and 90, septante, huitante et nonante.


FitiFati

Same in Belgium.


Das_Taube

My god, that sounds so much better!


Incorect_Speling

Even huitante? I've never heard it in Belgium.


pm_your_filet-o-fish

No, most people use quatre vingts, and you might hear octante but it’s rather rare.


starstarstar42

Translation: zee Fronch, we are the insane, no?


46554B4E4348414453

*hon hon*


Anonymous_Otters

Sacré bleu!


lizardlan

Interesting, but still fucking stupid. I was in French immersion in school and math was so dumb in French, it just makes it harder for absolutely no reason.


CaughtOnTape

Don’t think of it as "four-twenty-ten-nine" in because then you’re actually doing arithmetics in your head and it will show. Just think of it as "quatrevingtdixneuf" as if it’s a single word. When I learned english in Quebec it never occurred to me that an anglophone would need to "count" to differentiate 80 from 90 in french. Am I getting this wrong?


GoodLowered

>Just think of it as "quatrevingtdixneuf" as if it’s a single word. Bro that's like 99 letters in one word


xSiNNx

*German has entered the chat*


Mr_Abe_Froman

Just slur it all together. Half the letters in French are optional.


MissKhary

Same, I’m from Quebec and those numbers have always just been words to me, I’ve never broken them down into their separate numbers. Dix-sept just means seventeen, not ten-seven. Just like you don’t think seven-ten for seventeen.


watson-and-crick

When I was in France I asked people if they ever got confused hearing soixante-dix and "pictured" a "6X" in their head before they heard "dix" and corrected it to "7X". It was so weird to hear that no, that never happens (which is congruent with what you've said). For me as an anglophone, yeah it's strange to a) hear 4-20 and have to convert to 80 and THEN b) hear 4-20-10 and convert the mental picture from 80 to 90. Now I'm sure if I spent a lot of time actually doing math in French, it would become more natural, but it's just not consistent with how we deal with numbers, where other than *maybe* 13-19 there is a complete connection from what's being said to what numerals show up.


NickDemert

Well we can't just change a language that have been used for that long juste like that, even if it's unpractical


MoiMagnus

Yes and no. There are already existing equivalent (septante, huitante/octante, nonante) which are used in other French-speaking languages. It doesn't take a lot to (a) recognise them as acceptable in official French (b) like every reform of the language, progressively start to teach them at school during the next decade (c) wait for 50 years or so for the current wording to progressively become considered as outdated. It's not like there is an urgent need to change them, we just need to start using the better equivalents and let the natural evolution of the language happen.


IronStif

I totally agree, it's something i do since i learn about those word and maths become less annoying


TellMeGetOffReddit

I mean you definitely can.... just... start teaching it in school. That's how most places do that lol


DoctorCyborg

Oh, that's really cool


BixTheOne

For those who don't know in french it works like : 70=60+10 80= 4x20 90= 4x20+10 And if you want to know more or just laugh check this vid https://youtu.be/9rmBqIFeHN8


figmaxwell

THATS FOUR NUMBAHS FOR JUST ONE NUMBAH! WHOS GOT THE TIME?!


ilmirsen

Can't believe i had to scroll down so much for this. Should be top imo. So funny


CaptainLargo

It's really funny reading these memes being French because you learn numbers at such a young age and in such a natural way that you never realize how complicated our system actually is. French people don't realize they're saying "4x20" when they say quatre-vingt, it's just our way of saying 80 and we don't put much thought in it.


Tom_Dynamite

It's one of those things that you don't realize how strange it is until you look at it from a different perspective. Like how in German (and I know other languages too) nouns are gendered. So like in English it is: the spoon, the fork, the knife. In German its: Der Löffel (masculine), die Gabel (feminine), das Messer (neutral). Growing up with it it's just something you know but I've met many non natives who said it's hell to learn because there's not much logic to why one thing is masculine but another is feminine or neutral. A lot of it is just a case of you have to know what's correct.


HippityBoi

Exactly! It's the same in french.


suntem

That’s how it is for most indo-European languages. English is definitely the odd one out in that regard.


Atyone

There is a lot a dumb stuff about English but I thank my stars that we don't have gendered nouns. I know i probably wouldn't notice if my native language gendered nouns but it just seems so bizarre from the outside.


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jackson3005

Except in English there’s numbers 11-19 which don’t follow any of the other rules. People think mandarin is difficult, but at least the numbers make more sense (it’s 10+2 for 12, 10+3 for 13, 60+4 for 64 etc)


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bexyrex

holy shit. I never realized this.


svel

DK viking charging in with "9 AND 5 TWENTIES BUT USE ONLY HALF OF THE LAST TWENTY!!" (nioghalvfems)


[deleted]

How did it even become like this? Swedish and Norwegian counts normally yet the Danish system is beyond fucked.


Carstoned

Jeg har aldtid troet det var "halv fems" som i "4 1/2" altså lige som når klokken er halv fem. 4.5 * 20 = 90


Pewve

Det er det også, på samme måde som halvtreds (2½ * 20 = 50).


Uxogh

Baguette Country... ASSEMBLE !


BobArctor44

J'apporte les croissants !


Uxogh

God damn , Prends des pains au raisins aussi stp


TheFatManatee243

Et aussi du comté stp je kiffe trop ptn


TommySixx4

Pense au pains au chocolats aussi :D


Frog-Eater

Tous ces fragiles qui savent pas compter comme des beaux gosses.


Linvail

Je kiffe les Amérloques qui veulent réformer une langue qui n'est pas la leur parce que sé tro dure


Hot_Piece_Of_Garbage

Surtout c'est plus effrayant quand c'est tes voisins... Calisse!


TheDreamingGhost

Bonjour


Uxogh

Salut , la forme ?


TheDreamingGhost

Ouais ça va, et toi ?


Uxogh

Comme un lundi mais tranquille, c'est bientôt le weekend Pepelaugh


penguinfeces

I’ll award it


Uxogh

Thanks Fam


PixwellnNyx

Je me mets pas dans la même équipe que la chocolatine dsl.


trazaxtion

in arabic we say "nine and ninety". this is the literal translation.


All_Over_Again_

In German its exactly the same


ALR-Sniperz312

It's neuf or nothing


marmibost

Haha quatre vingt dix-neuf go brrr


kpingvin

🎵 Four-twenty-ten-nine red balloons 🎵


infi_nut

You could also just say nonante-neuf...


Floaty_mind

Yes indeed that's how we call it in belgium, simple and not unnecessarily complicated 😂


TheDeadPieMaker

they have not discovered the japanese counting system yet...


Gamer_Iwa

Japanese isn't too bad in this case. It's only nine ten nine. Roman numerals, on the other hand... ten (less than) one hundred, one (less than) ten.


TheDeadPieMaker

Yes technically in this case, but as soon as you start to count things, oh boi.


Gamer_Iwa

Yes, very true. Theres a word to count *everything*.


Das_Taube

Everybody gangster until u have to count *small round objects*


CVCCo

*hitosu, futatsu, mittsu, yottsu, itsutsu...* Excuse me, but these are completely different words


Gamer_Iwa

Ichika, Nino, Miku, Yotsuba, Istuki... Oh, not the Nakano quintuplets?


I_Shot_Web

Japanese counting is very simple until you get to big numbers since they count in 10,000s, I could never get my head around it. Thankfully most dealings with numbers are lower than that. People's names are where the real shitshow begins


Kneel_The_Grass

It's funny 'cause I'm learning Japanese and right now I'm watching a show to get used to the language. It's a reality show with 6 people. They were celebrating someone's birthday and used the wrong kanji when writing his name. Not even they can keep track of everything.


Waggles_

If you think about it, the English counting system and the Japanese counting system are almost identical, apart from the teens. English: Three thousand, four hundred, seventy eight Japanese: 三千四百七十八 (three, thousand, four, hundred, seven, ten, eight). English just has special names for the tens because they're used often, and for the teens because of other languages that were mixed into English. Edit: For large numbers, English and Japanese are the same as well, though we divide up our large numbers at different. For example, 100,000 is "one hundred thousand" in English, and is「十万」(juuman, or ten ten-thousands) in Japanese.


MusicianMadness

Yes. I have been learning Chinese for a while and it is very easy to learn the counting system. And it actually makes math easier. I also prefer Chinese grammar to any other language I have ever attempted to learn. I have no idea why other languages did not develop similar systems for grammar.


KinkyRenee

I'm half French, don't speak a lick; this is why.


CoregonusAlbula

So two-twenty and ten percent French?


KinkyRenee

My brain breaks more with every new comment


Thatswhatshesaid234

It’s like doing math while you say it. For example: 60 is « soixante » but 70 is « soixante-dix » so if you don’t know how to read it.. it basically says sixty+ten which makes 70. It gets a bit more complicated for 80 = « quatre-vingt » means 4x20 which equals 80. And for 90 it’s a bit like 70. So 90= « quatre-vingt-dix » you start the same way as 80 but you add 10 basically it’s 4x20+10. Hope it’s a bit more clear.


KinkyRenee

It does make some sort of sense, but as an uncultured, uncouth and thoroughly knackered Australian, my brain is stalling out at the thought of what might happen once you hit the thousands, or millions. But, I'd assume there are numerals specifically to represent those quantities, right? (edit to say thank you for the extra clarification, appreciated!)


K0RB4K

Nah, the weird things start with 70 : "soixante dix" equivalent to "sixty ten"


KusaGrassKusa

In Japanese, 99 would be "Kyuu-ju kyuu"


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Chinese too, “9, 10, 9”


de_je

German: NEIN NEIN NEIN [https://media.tenor.com/images/098f030db2bea3fc4348d443ae00bc1d/tenor.gif](https://media.tenor.com/images/098f030db2bea3fc4348d443ae00bc1d/tenor.gif)


gdimarzo

Four Twenty...


NoSwadYt

Quatre-vingt dix-neuf


GetsGold

*Quatre-vingt-dix-neuf


Raaka-Kake

No wonder the French have famous mathematicians when even simple numerals need arithmetics.


MEltana3588

Just say 99 999 in french ! 😂


Post_Successful

It’s 4 20 + 10 + 9


EYD-EAEDF

I'm glad I made it through the second year of taking French so that I never have to return to that kind of confusion again


AxyJaxy

4×20+19


splepage

more like (4 x 20) + 10 + 9


matTmin45

Belgiums be like : « What are you talking about ? »


Za_Gato

At least here in french Belgium we have a simpler way of saying those numbers


CaptainLargo

Except 80 for some weird reason, like you use septante and nonante but yet still use quatre-vingts.