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get_too

Watch out Charlotte we're coming for that play in berth 😔


ourCrime

31-51 babyyyyyyy


CalmInitiative3283

What happened to SGA or Murray?


luapchung

I don’t see either team trading them lol


Sslagathor

Only 8th seed to advance to the playoffs 😤


PuffyVatty

Monte have it all!


beastfromthefarweast

We have a lightly used Michael Conley Jr. available


brickvanexel

Lightly is doing a lot of work in that sentence my friend. Condolences for the impending implosion of your team


BlueRaider731

Go ahead and buy him out. Memphis will take him back.


CHIEFdaGOD

Unless he's playing for 4 mil imma pass


BlueRaider731

If Memphis loses Tyus, and there’s a good chance he gets overpaid, we’d need a proven ball handler and somebody that can shoot the three to play with Ja.


CHIEFdaGOD

Yep that's y I said 60 mil, Ja getting the max no matter how you look at it, I can see someone giving Tyus 18-20 if he's coming in to be your starter, I'd honestly just bring back Delon Wright, big guard who can shoot and he don't turn the ball over a lot either, he got a lil more than Jones the year we traded him to Dallas, he should take a lot less now....


vahnjay

Boston makes a lot of sense


DoomdUser

Are you talking about Brandon Boston, or the Boston Celtics? Because there is no way the Celtics would trade Smart to the Wizards for anything other than Brad Beal. They have nothing we need


vahnjay

No I meant Monte Morris makes a lot of sense for Boston Celtics.


brickvanexel

I agree, guy has a really low assist to turnover ratio, solid handle, would be a great fit offensively. Only problem is after this year where they shed every minus defender to have 7 sturdy, 6’4”+ rotation dudes I now don’t want to see anyone who isn’t a rock solid defender near the Celtics 😂


Olovnivojnik

He's really good PG. He can even start games and be very good 6th man in playoffs. He's just not great defensively...minus defender for sure. I think he would fit Celtics or Clippers.


DoomdUser

Ohhhh I see. The problem is we are kinda all set we are kind of all set at that position. You can’t go by what happened in the Finals because Tatum and our entire offense were so bad that Smart and White both stepped out of their roles. If you look at what Smart did from January until the Heat series basically, he WAS our ball-mover and floor general on offense. I just think the Celtics didn’t realize there was another level they had to go to. In order to bring in Morris, one of White or Smart would have to go, and you’re not dealing the DPOY after having the #1 defense and going to game 6 of the finals. White is also on a fine contract and was a perfect fit for us and also played great, again before the Finals. It’s not that Morris is bad, I just think we’re not going to be in the market for a PG at all when wing scoring was what killed us.


vahnjay

I personally think they need another floor general to slow down the offense and help tatum and brown get easier looks which will make up for the lack of wing scoring you mentioned. The starting lineup could be Monte, Smart, Brown, Tatum, Rob Will w/ White off the bench. Celtics have a huge trade player exception so they wouldn’t have to send out any salary theoretically to match contracts


DoomdUser

You can’t put Smart at the 2 again. It basically gives him the mind set of a scorer and the whole thing falls apart.


Apprehensive-Line588

why...


SquimJim

Because Morris + Beal + KP That's why I'm not sure how you are not seeing the vision here


moneyman2222

How you gonna ignore Kuzma? Super team potential 😤


acat114

Dangerous 9 seed


BetweenTheBuzzAndMe

Lol 43-39 got us the 10 seed in the east and the teams in front of us aren't declining. Good luck Washington


Apprehensive-Line588

On second thought that would be pretty nice.


Aladin001

Because we don't have a point guard? It's kind of an important position for a basketball team.


legless_chair

I hear ish smith is a point guard


thesch

If somehow all it takes to get Morris is a 2nd rounder that's one thing but I don't know what trading any decent/young players or real assets for Monte Morris would accomplish other than moving the Wizards from the 12 seed to the 11 seed.


FourFingeredBertans

The idea is a full season of Beal and KP get us from 12 to play in. Then a PG gets us to locked in. Unlikely, but that's the idea.


lengune

Or you can have your 14% odds of drafting Victor Wenbenyama or the next picks next year.


FourFingeredBertans

If we were going to tank, we wouldn't have traded for Zinger and Beal would have been gone a year and a half ago. That ship has sailed. Any rebuild requires 3-5 years from this point. It could have started 2 years ago and we could have 1-3 years left.


Turbo2x

I can already see Tommy lining up the rebuild process tbh. The constant theme is that he's valuing future picks and his draftees extremely high, note that we haven't heard reports about Rui, Deni, and Kispert being included seriously in trade talks. Pretty sure that he anticipates Beal to ask for a trade next year and he'll try to get a ton of picks in return. More than anything I think he wants to start managing his own team rather than dealing with Ernie's previous fuck-ups. It's a respectable route. But for now he has to keep doing what it takes to keep Beal on through the UFA window.


jumbysloices

That's all great except Rui/Deni/Kispert are just role players, not guys to build around...


Turbo2x

You need solid role players to do anything in the league. He's still looking for his star (although I could see Rui becoming an all star eventually)


jumbysloices

Sure, just don't want to build around role players. They should be moved without hesitation if something better is available. Side note, they should move Rui as soon as possible. He's a bad team defender that's coming off inflated 3 point shooting numbers. Definitely wouldn't want to commit any serious money to him with Beal/KP taking up so much cap


lengune

At this point, isn’t it better in the long term if you just let Beal walk for free? Unless Rui turns into KD, there’s no way you guys doing something in playoffs.


FourFingeredBertans

If we're tanking, yes. But the front office has decided we're not.


lengune

Goodluck.


masu94

This is Raul Neto erasure. I was at a late-season Wizards-Magic game and I definitely saw him warm up!


neutronicus

I do actually think Monte would make a huge difference for the Wizards, FWIW. His physical limitations are a problem in the playoffs, but in terms of organizing an offense that is watchable game-in game-out and making Beal's life easier I think he would do a lot. And he's on a 10 million dollar deal for the next two years.


wir_suchen_dich

Come get Bledsoe then.


BootyGoonTrey

No.


yodeadasss

Then trade up and draft Dyson Daniels or take Tyty Washington. Could also draft Johnny Davis and develop him as a lead guard. Dont trade that shit for goddamn Monte Morris


pewpewblahblah

I heard this dude from LA is available. MVP too.


NovaKash

Because if Beal is staying you're going to win games. You have no hope of tanking so you just have to try and be as competitive as possible. You already took a swing on KP which was a low-cost move, so now you just hope he can stay healthy and be the two-way player he was in Dallas. If you get a real point guard, now Beal can play off-ball, and KP can play a more limited role on offense. You've got really good role players in KCP and Kuzma, developing young talent in Rui, Kispert, Bryant, and Gafford. The Wizards really are just a point guard and injury luck away from genuinely being able to compete for a 5-7 seed. In reality they should clean house and tank, but if Beal wants to stay what are they supposed to do? Say no? You give it a try, see what you have, worst case scenario you clean house next off season. The 10th pick in a so-so draft isn't really going to make or break their rebuild if it comes to that


C0oK1e_Monsta

Because for some absurd reason Washington refuses to blow it up


pewpewblahblah

r/NBA: all the stars just go to the same few teams also r/NBA: why doesn't this small market team trade their star to one of those playoff teams.


BoldElDavo

It's not that absurd. People just think the league should only be like 8 teams for some reason.


ShootHoopsNotPeople

Not really, haven't heard anybody say a single playoff team should blow it up.


Intelligent_Water524

Because it's a basketball team and they want to make moves.


NovaKash

"At least several" what the actual fuck does that even mean?


Ragnar_OK

More than none of them but less than all of them


chewie_33

You know who is available? Yes him: John Wall.


StormTheTrooper

Trading the 10th pick for Monte Morris would be one of the dumbest moves the Wizards could possibly make.


beforetherodeo

Think it'll be something around KCP for Monte


Coke_ButNotTheDrug

Yeah the Nuggets have been interested in KCP apparently so it makes sense for both sides.


cb148

Dumber than the #5 pick for Randy Foye and Mike Miller?


BodaciousSalacious

I read that Abe Pollin (our owner at the time who was verrrry old) just wanted to see a winning team before he eventually passed. That’s why Ernie Grunfeld was so willing to move #5 for two “win now” players. Obviously we all know how that turned out, but that was the justification for the trade. Obligatory Fuck Ernie Grunfeld.


ReignOnWillie

Damn


super_pax_

Coulda had curry🤷‍♂️


BodaciousSalacious

Even Rubio would’ve been better than what we got.


cb148

I don’t know why you got downvoted, you’re absolutely correct.


JTernup

I don’t think it would be all that dumb personally ;)


jdcalvert22

Agreed I’m a nuggets fan and have seen a lot of Monte Morris. Love him to death. Can pass it around and shoots incredibly well. He’ll be a good starting PG for sure but not a top 10 draft pick good.


mamaljurray

Give us KCP and number 10 pussies, you wont


texasproof

Y’all want a very well rested John Wall?


Sterling_Thunder

After Houston buys him out, sure!


BabaBrody

Is Ish Smith a joke to you? (You don't have to answer that.)


Pikminious_Thrious

They'll start the season 15 games under .5 and come crawling back to Ish Smith


Lavar_ball_brand

No you got it wrong. We'll start out 15-7 and give fans hope and then go on a 20 gaming losing streak, eventually being too high seeded to get a good pick and too bad to make the playins.


ZionephewObeseiamson

> veteran Point Guard RUSSELL WESTBROOK IS YOUR GUY D.C! SEND HIM BACK!!!


Ravens181818184

Future wizards legend


Konfliction

We can give you a two-year aging vet Malachi Flynn. 👀


Hendo8888

At least several


whospepesilvia

Would be biggest news of the day tbh


Srilart

come on...they want mike conley, everyone wants mike conley, someone please fucking take mike conley.


Bossgarlic

NO NOT MR NUGGET


fuzzynavel34

That's not Malcom Brogdon


turkmileymileyturk

The is the most Washington Wizards offseason news I've ever heard.


Signiference

John Wall is available


Talcove

I heard John Wall is available.


6lackDino

Raptor fans will disagree but FVV for #10 Wizards Pick + KCP and/or Kuzma + future pick might be worth it given our upcoming contract situation after next year. In a vacuum it may not make much sense, but we need to be looking at our contracts and who we will want to pay in 2023. Then also consider getting #7 from the Blazers for OG if they attach enough good pieces to that #7. I only do this if I can get Sharpe with one of those picks though.


Ai2Foom

Lol u crack me up brah — I like FVF but he’s not worth half that


pewpewblahblah

its not about what he's worth its about how dumb the other GM is.


StefonDiggsHS

Just wanna rub it in a little and say I love Spencer Dinwiddie


ruffus4life

you don't really. you love you have a top 5-10 player that makes others better.


StefonDiggsHS

Spencer was great off the bench and specifically in minutes without Luka tho So like maybe just maybe I do like Spencer Dinwiddie the player as a guy who fits our system and isn’t a locker room cancer for MY team. Or you can tell me what opinion I should have again


ruffus4life

he's better for ya'll than an injured kp. your system is have a generational talent in luka.


PlasticPresentation1

Dinwiddie also dug the grave for the Suns in game 7, Luka just pushed them in


isaacz321

Kcp for morris and a second. Denver needs a starter at sg so I think they consider this


mamaljurray

Lmao we would not be the ones adding a pick here


isaacz321

Then wizards should say no, kcps got slightly more value rn


mamaljurray

Idk man the wizards really need a PG


isaacz321

And the nuggets need a sg. Yea you have other options but so do the wizards


TheseFkingWeebs

I agree. KCP is better than Morris and a better trade asset. He's a 3&D guy, and every contender would want him.


Ohrobohobo

Would washington like a slightly used Bledsoe?


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SausageintheSky

Morris is a pretty solid player though. He's not a guy you can rely on to be a top 1-3 scoring option, but if you've already got the offensive weapons worked out and need a guy to run the offense, hit threes and not make many mistakes he's very valuable. Good floor raiser player. So Monte, Beal and Kuzma sounds kind of ridiculous, but I could actually see that forming the basis of a low end playoff team in the East. And hey, the Wizards are probably just hungry for another playoff berth at this point. So 'mediocre low-end playoff team' is probably a win in their book. Morris is also pretty elite if you simply want him as the backup PG running the bench unit.


Backpack456

Kyle Lowry is a veteran point guard!


lalo1398

Russ for KCP Kuz and Bryant who says no


pewpewblahblah

there exists a universe where Russ never got traded to LA and he still played well for the Wizards


lil_extro_vert_

I want Kuzma


IncaseAce

What happened to SGA or Murray?


Gr8WallofChinatown

Neither of those teams will let them go


chris_paul_fraud

Westbrook


TheGhostOfSamHouston

That would be so dumb…


Pardonme23

A backup?


drudru91soufendluv

Dlo...?


Painting_Obvious

Wow, so exciting


FlameOfWar

Man I hate watching teams thinking shooting guards in point guard bodies will solve their playmaking and creation problems.


oloshh

The guys nickname is literally "Count of Monte Assist/TO"


FlameOfWar

BOOO 👎


SwaggingUp

Cole Anthony, come on down


BlackMathNerd

But why? Why?