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Nightshifter74

Humans suck


DecentTemperature384

Yes they do


hiegear

I’m starting to discover I have a bad case of Ecological grief. It makes me sick what we do to this planet and animals. I’m starting to develop a hatred for people.


Independent_Stuff210

The good news is that we are not really harming the planet. The planet/nature will win. Several extinction events have happened before us and one will likely end us (unless we get there first!). We are a blip on the timeline of the universe. Just ride this little anthropocene wave and then we will be gone. Of course this does nothing to solve the pain and torment we cause while we are here but nothing will. Homo Sapiens will not ever be better. We will continue to populate and struggle with that success. Edit: Wow. This blew up. Some get where I’m coming from and some don’t. I do not want to be a shitty species. I do not want to kill off species without regard. I wish Homo sapiens was a better custodian. I, by no means, am Captain Planet, but I do try to make informed choices and leave a small impact. But what I see around me is extremely disheartening. And when I try to think about things on a larger scale, I’m even more disheartened. Edit 2: another attempt: HUMANS SHOULD STOP BEING ASSHOLES TO THE PLANET. But also, humans will not stop being assholes because assholes is what we are.


banausic

As George Carlin said, the earth will shake us off like a case of fleas


I_Already_Forgot_

And where the fuck are all the zombies??


Limitsofapproach

We are the zombies


Guitarfucker69

That’s deep bro


Juhboobles

I said the same thing to my buddy yesterday. For different reasons though.


Baltoslims

The thing about zombies or the thing about your bro being deep?


Wjames33

Maybe the real zombies were the friends we made along the way


1wife2dogs0kids

They’re at the Trump MAGA rally.


BubonicMonkeyman

The issue is the millions of species we will take with us.


greatunknownpub

Yes, we suck for that, but extinction level events mean almost ALL species die, not just humans. And if you just want to fast forward 7 billion years, the sun is going to expand and take the earth with it anyway.


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I say we attack the sun first. We know it's plotting against us.


Patchyug

We should attack it at night when it's sleeping


StellarAsAlways

YES a sneak attack during an eclipse! BRILLIANT!


Scojo_Mojojo

I think your logic is broken and is the kind many people use to mitigate any sense of obligation, responsibility, or grief. We are certainly hurting the planet and the organisms that live here. As far as we know never has man before in history been able to affect the worlds environment so much. The scope is terrifying and hard to quantify unless you’re very educated on the subject. I don’t mean to attack you but I can’t stand that lofty and cynical view of nothin matters, I think it’s a crutch. And one that many of our overlords lean into to absolve themselves


Independent_Stuff210

Everywhere humans went, large fauna were quickly killed off. We have been doing it long before we built big bombs etc. it’s what we do. Forager humans didn’t think about their ecological impact, even though they played a huge part in the extinction of lots of species. Some of us think about it and want to change. Good luck with that. I absolutely feel obligation and responsibility and grief but I am also old enough to know that nothing will change for the better. Until a massive die off happens, humans will continue on this trajectory. Keep putting your 15 items of cardboard in the recycling bin and Pat yourself in the back. That is meaningless until the methods of mass production are absolutely clean (never gonna happen). Do you really think all of humanity is going to decide to have just one tv and one pair of good quality shoes??? The problems are built in and systemic. We won’t just walk away from the comfortable live we have built. Humans do what we want to, not what we should.


primarilyforlurking

You have no idea if nature will win or not my dude. If we runaway greenhouse ourself into Venus 2 electric boogaloo then there's not going to be much multicellular life left.


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We have hundreds of millions of years showing that nature constantly wins, surviving and thriving after ice ages and asteroid strikes. Multicellular life has survived every single E.L.E. the Earth has ever experienced.


CaptainCupcakez

I'm not sure you fully understand the implications of altering the composition of the atmosphere. There's no safety valve. If we push things to the point that life can no longer survive, life can no longer survive. Edit: All of you saying "extremophiles would still survive!" aren't being clever. The fact that life has already gone through several extinction events is not justification to alter the atmosphere to the point that the vast majority of existing life can no longer survive. If your best argument is "uhhh actually we could only destroy 99.9999% of life and render the planet inhospitable for complex life, its no big deal" then you're making my argument for me. And to those of you saying "the atmosphere has been modified much worse!" that isn't true at all based on our current projections. The rate of change is important. Complex life can not adapt quick enough if we drastically alter the environment in a short space of time. I'll never understand why people think this is a convincing argument. It's pointless nihilism. If you don't even care about the extinction of the majority of species, why even insert yourself into the conversation?


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> I'm not sure you fully understand the implications of altering the composition of the atmosphere. Of course I do. You fail to fully understand, as Sagan put it, we are "a thin film" upon the Earth. We're certainly the cause of Global Climate Change and it will likely mean our extinction, but once we're gone, the Earth will most certainly "heal." > There's no safety valve. If we push things to the point that life can no longer survive, life can no longer survive. That's not technically accurate, nor can we even come close to pushing the Earth to an ecological disaster where NO life survives. Extremophiles have survived worse conditions than we could possibly create. You're simultaneously over-estimating the damage man can do to the Earth (before she puts the boot to us) and under-estimating the Earth's ability to repair itself after said booting. I'm not sure what is more odd here.


DustVoice

You ever read up on how the fucking atmosphere could've looked after the dinosaurs? Freaking huge alteration of the atmosphere in my book. It doesn't make us less responsible in any way. I'm not defending anyone and I'm as fed up as any sensible human being on this god damn green blue rock in space should be. But nature always wins. Even if ALL life gets extinct ans there is no possibility for any life ever on this planet (which is unlikely as there will still be water etc. and life can adapt a whole lot given enough time) nature still won. It will be an uninhabited rock in space but it's still nature. And the universe is nature too in my opinion. So somewhere out there might be a race more capable of not fucking their environment.


Bensemus

Of course nature will win. We are part of nature.


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lemonadeinyourface

you’re absolutely correct, it is so broken to think we are not harming the planet. the amount of pollution and plastics in our ground, water, and air is disgusting.


Senor-Cockblock

It’s interesting to view man made climate change in that context. We aren’t killing the earth, we are destroying the earth’s climate as WE know it (plenty of other collateral damage along the way). Hundreds of years of civilizations built around an environment and climate that will be changed so irrevocably during our minute slice of earth’s lifespan that will cost humans trillions of dollars in lost development, infrastructure and mitigation attempts. Earth will absorb the poison we pump into it, change its output and keep on chugging along…until the sun engulfs it in 7 billion years. Edit: spelling


aradil

You are ignoring the distinct possibility of runaway processes. Unlike climate change itself, we don’t have 100% definitive proof of any that, once we voluntarily or involuntarily stop destroying the atmosphere, will continue to the process in our absence, but there are several postulated. But the current global ecosystem evolved to where it is from impossibly hospitable conditions so it’s hard to not imagine it recovering. But 7 billion years is a long time; there are several things that could end life on this planet before then. Most involving something extremely large, extremely fast, or both.


bandrus5

Unfortunately we really are harming the planet and countless lifeforms on it. But, as you said, it will almost certainly recover once we're gone.


WarlockFortunate

How will the trees survive without the carbon dioxide from our cars? I’m kidding but a sitting US senator has said this


NateTheGreater1

Human tenacity has proven we can overcome many obstacles. Who knows if we will be wiped out or not, the future is uncertain.


Theanswerwasnever42

I think the imploding sun is pretty definitive.


Plynwitfire

Imagine how many animals were vaporized by that blast, wow.


Nervous_Yard_7354

The people that populate the Micronesian/Marshallese islands still do not eat the fish in the sea or the fruits that grow on the land


thetburg

Vaporized? A lot. Killed by the concussion blast of that explosion? 1000000000x more


Stealthsloth788

Actually none, they made a show about those animals after that explosion. It’s a really small show called spongebob squarepants. If I’m correct they’re still making episodes


IndiaSixty

Welcome to the club


ehpuckit

It's that moment where you start rooting for Poison Ivy.


Iamaswine

The thing is plenty of cultures exist in harmony with the earth, as intended. It's resource hoarding and capitalism that's fucking everything.


Ok-Standard-1494

*we


TacoDoc

Sometimes they can be bros. This isn’t one of those times. r/humansbeingbros


Abe_Odd

We do and we don't. We're the literal personification of nature. We can create amazing and beautiful things, and unleash horrific destruction the next second. Nature has extinctified 99.99% of all species that have ever lived, often in literal apocalypses. We're in the rare empathetic position to actually care about the devistation we cause. You can dispair at our dark side, but try not to be smothered by it. There has never been a better time to try and change things.


HavanosArcova

This is probably the most profound explanation of humanity that I’ve heard from some random person in a good long time. Unfortunately though (just a side thought), being “the personification of nature” won’t stop nature from clapping us once the consequences of our collective apathy for the environment catch up to us.


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MaxCSquared

As much damage as these tests caused, it likely saved millions of lives from dying in conventional wars and helped make developments towards nuclear technology that will save us from climate change in the future. Knowing that these events happened before most of us were born (and halted in water and air because of ecological damage), I find it much more productive and interesting to look at the fascinating/positive impacts of events like these. IMO Reddit is a kinda cynical sometimes.


BrizzyWobbly

The people of Bikini Island would like to strongly disagree. Nuclear fallout is forever. Also depleted uranium weapons are still used, and the spent munitions are still lying around on the ground in Iraq. Lives will be destroyed for generations. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130521105557.htm


officerkondo

> Nuclear fallout is forever I have been to Hiroshima a few times. I hate to burst your bubble but there are no heightened radiation levels there. > depleted uranium weapons are still used And? Depleted uranium is also used in counterweights in every airplane you’ve ever flown in. Uranium this, uranium that. Can you explain the difference between alpha and beta particles without consulting a reference?


HoldMyPitchfork

This. This is the reason we can't have nuclear power. Because brain=off/uranium=bad


UnfairAd7220

There were no standards for cleanup then. That's not an excuse, but a reality. Fallout, actually, isn't forever. DU is barely radioactive and U by itself has all the toxicity of lead.


AgeSad

You mean all this money and time and energy we spent on weapons when we could have use that to find real alternatives solutions ? Look at today usa, they spend so much on war and weapons but can't take probely care of their own citizens healthcare.


MaxCSquared

I’m currently reading a book written by SecDef Carter called “Inside the 5-sided Box” and it’s opened my eyes to how much the military does for the United States and the world. In a perfectly functioning global society we wouldn’t need weapons and militaries to keep peace but that’s not where we currently are. Furthermore, the Cold War was one of the most technologically productive periods in human history. Without it, it’s unlikely that computers, space travel, medicine, and communication would be anywhere near as developed as they are now. Obviously there were bad outcomes, but a lot of fantastic ones as well that were glossed over.


TheMikeyMac13

Also at the time this video was made we were deep in the Cold War, and these weapons and the mutually assured destruction they brought with them prevented ww3. Hate them, sure, but understand where we might be without them.


renethedude1986

When your mom jumps in the ocean


cookiemonsta122

😂thx for the lighter humor


Titra29

I guess your mom's not that light...


RMT_337

Dammit, I'm 22 minutes late


Crab-Dealer

When your mom farts underwater.


UnitedStatesOD

r/yourjokebutworse


Jwirv

I wonder how many fish were killed or how many species went extinct because of that.


Double_Education_690

The real question , how many new mutant fish have just been created ?


IAmMaximus1

For every species extinct, three more arise lol


fasterthanyou22

Godzilla's origin story


lil_grey_alien

And spongebobs


MoralMischief

We talkin' bout Bikini Atoll Bottom?


Sredni_Vashtar82

From what I've read, I believe radiation dissipates in water rather quickly.


70stang

Water is an exceptional radiation shield. You can swim in active nuclear reactor pools very close to the core with no issue, and in fact they use divers for maintenance. The shockwave probably killed a bunch of fish though.


idontliketopick

True, but a little deceptive since it's missing some info. The reactor is shut down when divers go in so it's making less radiation. One can still get closer than you'd think when it's running though.


TifCiiD

SpongeBob


Shady_hatter

Fishes killed - a lot, maybe, species extinct - zero, I guess. You can't finish an entire species with a single blast, unless it was highly endemic, living on that specific spot of the ocean. I hope that military have enough brains not to do nuclear tests at places rich of life, but I'm pretty sure that each subsequent explosion would do less and less environmental impact.


nomecks

Well they did it on a tropical atoll, so it's not implausible that there were some highly localized species.


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DecentTemperature384

That was my initial thought when I first saw it. Can you imagine the uproar from *PETA* and animals rights activists today, if this happened.


Jwirv

Not just that, some of the biggest things in the ocean are the most sensitive and there could have only been a few of something left. This test could have potentially ended so many species. I'm not an activist or anything but, fuck.


ethylalcohoe

You can be an activist and not a douche bag. We aren’t mutually exclusive 😁


Jwirv

That's not what I was saying, I just mean I didn't want to be lumped in with PETA


ethylalcohoe

Oh I gotcha bud! So not the nutty ones


sellotejp

Poor things never saw it coming.


JungleBoyJeremy

It’s very sad but this is the only method we know of to create a Godzilla


DizzyDeezler

It created the SpongeBob universe.


hammurabis_toad

That must have killed every sea creature within 100 miles of the blast. Literally millions of animals.


delphininis

Actually, they all survived unharmed thanks to a rigorous sea life education campaign, teaching the merits of ducking and covering!


ClownfishSoup

Sealife duck and cover: Find a duck, get on and fly to cover!


philsmack

Yeah they just airdropped thousands of school desks into the ocean the week before the test.


proudlyhumble

100 miles? That blast was a couple miles in radius if that.


MrVisnosky

Sound is what would have killed within the “100” mile range. Boom in air, loud. Boom in water... deadly loud. Any whale on the planet heard that shit.


kayanjarvuy16

is that actually true, that every whale in all the oceans would’ve heard that?


MrVisnosky

Whales can communicate up to like 10,000 miles +, but that’s probably a different frequency. Sound travels like 3 or 4 times as fast in water and pretty sure makes it louder too. They heard it. Ship sonar is like ear bleeding to them too I think.


chumbawamba56

As a whale I can confirm. I heard it.


Suds08

The bomb blast knocks me down but I get up again


Crafty_Enthusiasm_99

Most of this sounds poetic but is physically impossible. The frequency/wavelength of the sounds whales produce has the potential to travel 10k miles at most, This is an important distinction, that is vastly different than "whales communicate up to live 10,000 miles+" -- unless whales communicate in some form of Morse code that just is sound/no_sound. At 10k miles the sound can _technically_ be detected at a couple of decibels, but at this point it might even be barely sensed, let alone audible or eardrum exploding. > Sound travels like 3 or 4 times as fast in water and pretty sure makes it louder too This is patently false. It might seem louder to the human ears, but that doesn't mean the amplitude of the sound has increased or energy transmission is more efficient. You could argue there is less Brownian diffusion among water particles than air, but that is irrelevant and a rounding error for the argument here. > Ship sonar is like ear bleeding to them too I think Some temporary hearing loss and disorientation. But there is a small point here. Although, again ear bleeding is hyperbolic


CyonHal

https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/sound01/background/acoustics/acoustics.html#:~:text=Because%20of%20these%20differences%20in,noise%20level%20referenced%20in%20water. >Because of these differences in reference standards, noise levels cited in air do NOT equal underwater levels. **To compare noise levels in water to noise levels in air, one must subtract 26 dB from the noise level referenced in water.** 26 dB is a pretty big fucking difference. Sources > feelings.


PhysiksBoi

While this may be true at any particular point in space, you must remember that sound intensity drops off approximately with the sound pressure p^(2) as a function (1/r^(2))with distance. It also decreases faster if the sounds speed is very high, as is very likely in this case of a nuclear detonation. At the distances speculated here, most energy would he lost through scattering and absorption in comparison to the relation given above. This would be through the generation of bubbles and spray, and absorption by floor sediment upon reflection. Given the amount of water displaced in the video, it's safe to say energy is dissipated very quickly. A common rule of thumb is that sound intensity drops with 6dB for every doubling of distance. Let's assume that the observer in this video is about 2km away (I looked it up), but add 26dB to the sound since we're in air. At 128km away, the distance has doubled 6 times losing 36dB, so the sound level underwater will be at MOST 10dB less than that shown in the video. This doesn't even consider sound absorption or reflecting of the wave from the water surface. Because of the low depth (about 1km) of the water, all of the energy sinks I described will be severely exacerbated. Even with these negating effects you're correct that a fuck ton of sea life died, just not so far away because it was detonated at 500 feet in a shallow 2600 feet deep atoll. I'd estimate that as soon as the water depth increased significantly, (as you approach the ocean), this would not have a drastic effect on sea life. It's important to note that this is an extreme case of a low-frequency sound wave, so it is modeled by the parabolic equation quite well. Sub-harmonics from reflected sound waves will give the wave a sawtooth shape, so that the initial impact is very violent and then gradually decreases. This will be much more harmful to sea life than a typical sinusoidal sound wave. If you wanted to make a factually correct point, this is one argument you could make.


mega_cat_yeet

This comment is hard evidence that redditors will upvote anything.


RompingOtter

How have you all not seen the Mark Rober vid about shockwaves in water? https://youtu.be/W4DnuQOtA8E


Indian_Bob

Nah the fish had a school they could hide in


Snow_Da_92

If they're american fish then the school might have been shot up afterwards.


imaginexus

Why did they do this so close to shore? A bunch of land animals probably died too.


UnfairAd7220

Bikini Atoll is a volcano that popped up above the sea and eroded back to see level leaving a ring of islands. It offered a location for dozens of tests. Other than that, it's isolated from other islands by some distance...


420-fresh

For those who didn’t know: bikini atoll is the real life inspiration for bikini bottom. Yup. You read that right. Spongebob and his friends are all irradiated sea creatures. It was the location for American nuclear testing, and it even features a lagoon. Source: https://theconversation.com/spongebobs-bikini-bottom-is-based-on-a-real-life-test-site-for-nuclear-weapons-96687


bwaredapenguin

For those that don't know, the only thing confirmed is that Bikini Bottom got its name from Bikini Atoll. The fact that the characters are the result of nuclear testing is a theory originating on Reddit. https://screenrant.com/spongebob-squarepants-bikini-bottom-nuclear-site-theory/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/ubaqq/what_fan_theories_have_blown_your_mind_with_their/c4tyqmc


pinguindosurf

100 miles? What are you talking about? The radiation?


UnfairAd7220

more like hundreds of meters...


General_Tso75

Governments set off nukes like a red neck with a pack of cherry bombs back then. I’m surprised they didn’t try blowing up a city sized toilet.


f_n_a_

It would be in poor taste for the government to nuke Detroit


ClownfishSoup

You beat me by 13 minutes.


Wjames33

They stole my nuke, can’t have shit in Detroit


Double_Education_690

I was just thinking. They arrest rednecks for a little tnt or cherry bomb.. but it’s ok for them to nuke? Lol we live in a society


motosandguns

I don’t think anyone was arrested for cherry bombs in the 50’s.


ClownfishSoup

Leave Detroit out of this!


strumthebuilding

>Leave Detroit ~~out of this~~ FTFY


JakorPastrack

People here be like "ohh, we suck, poor nature, we are terrible" and shit, and yall forget that is trying to kill ud every nanosecond that we stand on this planet. All the time, non stop, nature is trying to kill you in some way or another. We are not bad, or evil, we just exist, like fucking animal, except we are the only ones who discovered how to split the atom. But when extintion comes (from outside, i mean) and it will come, the only ones who will have a chance to save all living things on earth is gonna be us. "Ohh but nature" fuck nature, it doesnt give a fuck about you, and whatever we do to it is nothing comoared to what it does to itself. Should we not care? Of course not, we have to peotect our planet, but stop behaving like nihilistic little shits and marvel at the opportunities. I swear to god this is the most negative sub ive seen by far, its a constant circlejerk of negativism coming from people in nice air conditioned enviroments who dont have to worry about food, and have access to pretty much all the knowledge in history in a microcomputer in their hands, and use it to whine and bitch about how "humans bad". The mere fact that yall have empathy to a fucking rock floating on space showcases how wonderfull the human mind is, and the magnificent progress we have made in all fields are just demo's for the potential humans hsve, yet all you want to do is cry about the bad. Again, its wonderfull that you care about the enviroment and shit, and we do fuck up since are mostly childs who dont know what the fuck we are doing, but yall need to cut down on the negativity a little bit if you want shit to be better in the future, because being angry and sad all the time wont get anyone anywhere. Come @ me EDIT: ok, imma go bit by bit, first, i just got out of work and this angry ass comment got a lot more attention than i expected. Second, i should mention english is not my first language and i was a bit too mad at the time i wrote this, so there are a ton of writing and coherence mistakes, for which i apoligize, there are many things i couldve said differently. I still stand by what i said mind you, its just that, as some people pointed out, some of my arguements are somewhat lacking, but i am way past the point of elaborating further as i doubt peopme will read this edit. Anyways, if i have to make a "TL;DR" version, it would be that yall need to start looking at the positives, and stop judging humanity so harshly, as we barely even started to figure crap out, thus we are bound to make mistakes, but that doesnt warrant us going extint as i ve seen many comment. Peace


SSJ4_cyclist

The people saying humans deserve to die are so cringey.


Lokioh465

they say humans deserve to die but as soon as i take my shotgun and blast their parents head off they start crying and beg me to stop, smh like make up your mind


The_DeVil02

HahaHH that got dark real fast


spb123123

Just weak humans who live in bubbles


plsdontdoxxme69

Boy if you think I’m gonna read that shit


Mytrazy

You should there are some good points in there


stupidoranges3

He right tho


xFearoth

All the ‘humans deserve to die’ shills have clearly not followed their own line of thinking to its conclusion. ‘There are too many people’ - which of them are you going to ask to leave. ‘Humans destroy nature’ - where do you think your food and home and cell phone come from. Spoiled brats that live in comforts no human 200 years ago could dream of, and they cry about nature. If you lived in ‘nature’ you would die. I enjoyed your post.


ThatSaradianAgent

You're missing the point these are BOMBS whose purpose is to destroy entire cities: buildings, animals, plants, and people. These are weapons designed to obliterate entire cultures, histories, and ecosystems. These are not negotiations, introspection, and communication. This is destruction for the purpose of proving we can inflict this destruction again. The natural world doesn't recognize political borders. Wildfires in California affects the air in New York. Tsunamis don't stop to avoid certain islands. The death of fish in one ocean has an effect on everyone who lives and makes a living there, as well as around the world. So these tests aren't a "fuck you" to nature; they're a "fuck you" to humans who would prefer to lose food, water, and air, rather than say "maybe we don't really need fighting and new conveniences." This is proof we are willing to test a gun by shooting ourselves in the foot, just in case we need to shoot ourselves in the head.


The-Berzerker

Lol fuck this, animals are just killing to survive. What exactly did the thousands of atom bomb tests do for us, besides killing billions of animals?


j4trail

Give you nuclear reactors, with the potential to stop coal plants from killing you?


BackupPhoneBoi

How do testing nuclear bombs (or at least the scale in which we’ve tested them) have anything to do with nuclear reactors?


Rodhatesfaqs

This was taken in 1958, there was still a lot to learn about fission at that point.


DD_SuB

The Humans Vs nature narrative is kinda old, disconnected with reality and short sighted. Since humans are a part of nature and can't escape nature every change with nature can impact humans. Humans are also incapable of correctly predicting what changes follow certain actions in nature.


empathy2020

Agreed. "Nature is trying to kill us" is just as shitty a take as "humans deserve to die"


sbene2

"Fuck nature, it doesn't give a fuck about you". Expect..we are nature. And indeed it doesn't give a fuck about us because that's the cycle of life. Nothing is meant to last forever. And if we try to a avoid that by using our advanced technology, in hopes of defeating the nature, we defeat ourself. Because again.....we are nature.


FondlingFauna

Idk man, your comment only made me even more of a Nihilist. This thread is about governments testing nuclear weaponry capable of wiping cities off of the map with complete and utter indiscretion. I think people deserve the right to call this behavior abhorrent and unnecessary.


LazavTheRavager

I think you have this backwards, Nature just exists. It's not trying to kill you, me or anyone, everything in nature is just a reaction. Good and Evil on the other hand are almost purely human qualities. The bees I'm allergic to aren't evil, the jellyfish that could kill you and 50 of your closest friends isn't evil. Btw we discovered how to split the atom yeah? But what did we do with this knowledge? Oh right kill and threaten each other. Also gotta point out, we ain't saving anything if we have to keep producing more and more dangerous weapons just to cow each other into not being stupid and trying to kill and conquer everyone else. P.s. our empathy isn't to a piece of rock floating in space, it's to the generations of people who will come after us and have to live in the mess we cause. And I agree we do need to cut back on the negativity prevalent in nature activists, but we also need to be responsible and own the fact that we need change.


UrethraPlethora

Killing animals / plants to survive makes perfect sense. Killing the environment because of consumerism, greed, desire to maintain power etc is a lot less justifiable. Does humanity derserve to die? Absolutely not. But let’s not pretend we haven’t had an immensely negative impact on the environment that would be better off if we didn’t exist


GangreneGoblin

You're a fuckin idiot if you think an animal killing and eating its prey is the same as humans inventing nuclear bombs. What a fuckin moronic comparison. Name me one other species that kills itself as much as humans kill each other. I'll wait.


typec4st

Poor fish. They were minding their own business one second, and then they're suddenly vaporized.


Thebuicon

I read the other day that they, for many years, would dump radioactive waste in 50 gallon barrels off the coast of San Francisco and then if they didn’t sink would shoot them with the .50 cal.


blairthebear

[from what they used to do ](https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.latimes.com/environment/story/2021-04-26/ddt-waste-barrels-off-la-coast-shock-california-scientists%3f_amp=true) (article about how 12 miles off the coast of California, 3000ft deep, 500,000 ddt barrels are causing mass cancer to everyone and everything.) I mean more than likely. they’ve done some pretty ultra fucked up shit in the past. Although you’d think they’d use 9mm instead of 50cals..


Thebuicon

Ahhhhhh!!! That’s so horrible. I read Bill Bryson book “A short history of nearly everything” and it’s shocking how fucking horrible we’ve been to this planet and its inhabitants


10Points-4Gryffindor

I hear sunscreen kills coral


k2_jackal

yes it does


Mjfch

Ironic that sunscreen was actually derived from a substance corals excrete to protect themselves from the sun.


10Points-4Gryffindor

That’s just not right


timmaeus

Most of what you read on Reddit is just not right


Ned_Flanderz

Sometimes i get that backsplash in the toilet after Chipotle, it’s scary but refreshing


alphanimal

Poseidon's kiss


TheTrainWarden

Unpopular opinion: there is something very beautiful about rampaging destruction. (That being said, this is HORRIFYING)


TheGrapeMeister

Agreed. The beauty found in destruction is not only a display of the power (and thus responsibility) we wield, but also a reminder of our fragility. We as a species have the unique position of: “we can annihilate life on a grandiose scale in an instant, but can easily drown in a shallow puddle.” Videos like this evoke an interesting mixture of pride, humility, fear, and responsibility. But then again, so do many aspects of humanity. Humans can be awe inspiring... and terrifying. Or, at least that’s my stance.


MaximumEngineering8

And this is why we can't have nice things


ralopop

Like a non-irradiated planet!


akaRobbery

Reddit: oh the poor sea creatures Japan: *visible confusion*


Grand_Cauliflower_88

Humanity deserves to go extinct. We really have done nothing to add to the beauty of this world. Sure we are cute as kids but beyond that we are destroyers. If we put the energy into advancing ourselves like we do in destroying each other we could be worth saving but no we still destroy everything.


671927

"When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realize that one cannot eat money."


Thehealeroftri

When I was like 5 I accidentally swallowed a penny and it hurt, my mom called a non emergency line because she didn't know what to do and they told her it wasn't a big deal if I wasn't choking just make sure that I don't do it again. Point being you can definitely eat money but mom will get worried.


superNoid

I found the teenager.


klockee

Everyone in this entire comment section sounds like a teenager.


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Angus_McFife13

Life is so, so much better right now than at any other point in history. Even since the 80s the murder rate has fallen by 400% and medically preventable prenatal deaths among people with healthcare basically doesn't exist. Doesn't mean we can't fight for a better tomorrow - utopia must always be on the map if you want to get there - but everything takes longer than it should.


fOxObOyi

Yeah, it's sometimes baffling how extremist and depressed people are on this platform. Even if I deliberately avoid them they always come up with their total negativity. They say things that they cant even comprehend. I'll add that I'm a teenager too, and I was once very depressed but I actually went to a psychologist and turned myself around in two years.


Tears_of_Ursoc

Some people eat up that alarmist propaganda spoonfed by the media. Everything is unprecedentedly awful. Everyone is vile. We all deserve to die. It’s all a joke. The Earth will continue to spin on regardless of what we do to it. There’s no reason to get that worked up over it. Humanity is a blip in the cosmic scale and even a nuclear holocaust would still see life reemerge eventually. What’s another million years? The planet has seen countless mass extinctions. What’s one more?


DevilsKettle1992

You can show us your conviction by going first.


Alaska_Jack

Where do you Reddit edgelords come from


emerther47

Humanity deserves to go extinct because 1% is mad? Stop with that good-sounding nonsense. 99% of people have their heart in the right place, but they just lack the education.


millionreddit617

Arguably humans are the only species that care about the planet at all.


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Ok kid, start with yourself


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Talysha1921

Dont worry, we will eventually make ourselves extinct....its inevitable


glix1

No it isn't.


aedvocate

> We really have done nothing to add to the beauty of this world. oh come on. humanity has created incredible works of art in all kinds of mediums, least of all architecture, which absolutely rivals some of the biggest and best sites of natural beauty. you think this world could ever possibly create something like the Sagrada Familia? Or the Eiffel Tower? Or the city of Venice? The only way this world gets to see stuff like that is if humans build it - it would never, could never exist otherwise.


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camshell

We invented the concept of beauty. It doesn't exist without us here to appreciate it.


EarmuffsForCars

and dem birds be like... what the fuck?


jarol220

Anyone know what size wave that would have created on shore?


nixonwasasaint

This is what I came here to know


quadraspididilis

I don't think this is the same test, [but it's similar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Crossroads) and says the wave was 15ft.


AmbivalentAsshole

My brain can't process this scale. I've watched this 5 times. I see the boats, but I can't really get a grip on how far they are, or how big they are. They just *vanish* ina blink - and then its just all fucking white water. I physically cannot process the scale. Do not get me wrong, I don't want any more nuclear testing on earth ever - But I want a nuclear test with like 10,000 high speed cameras facing it - including a handful on a satellite, others in drones, so you can create a 3D rendering - just so I can properly process the fucking scale of this. Nevermind the fact that this is *nothing*. The Tsar Bomba's Shockwave went all the way around the globe [*three times*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba) > The flare was visible at a distance of more than 1000 km. It was observed in Norway, Greenland and Alaska. > The explosion's nuclear mushroom rose to a height of 67 km. The shape of the "hat" was two-tiered; the diameter of the upper tier was estimated at 95 km (59 mi), the lower tier at 70 km (43 mi). The cloud was observed 800 km (500 mi) from the explosion site. > The blast wave circled the globe three times, with the first one taking 36 hours and 27 minutes. > Glass shattered in windows 780 km (480 mi) from the explosion in a village on Dikson Island. I just.... I can't even wrap my head around it.


doghaircut

Yeah, it's crazy. I used to think the effects of the Death Star in Rogue One seemed to be too slow, but watching this those effects seem spot on.


thatredcup420

This looks great for the environment


dandreathomas77

What happens to the radiation? Do we just poison sea creatures?


fleetadmiralj

Depends what type of bomb. Thermonuclear ones are actually relative "clean" compared normal fission bombs. Also water typically does a good job absorbing radiation. But even says radiation, the pressure wave must have wrecked havoc


dewayneestes

Bikini Atoll is considered one of the most pristine dive sites in the world because once we bombed it we stayed away for several decades.


chinakillsfororgans

Is that where bikini bottom comes from


TrumpdUP

Isn’t there a theory that spongebob and his sea friends are all mutants created by this??


morningmsam

I think this theory originated here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/ubaqq/comment/c4tyqmc/


adiaz0126

Anyone else wondering what happened to the 4 ships seen in the video?


UnfairAd7220

The gov't moored them there to see the effects. They were empty. Just saying.


BabaORileyAutoParts

They may not have been totally empty. In a lot of the naval nuclear tests they had animals on board so hey could also test the effects of the radiation/determine how much contamination various parts of the ship took. So they were probably filled with cages of sheep, goats and pigs


Melodic_Hospital_173

I read somewhere they put pigs in military uniforms. To see the effects of the nuclear blast on the uniforms, but like, what did you think was going to happen? Also I think they were ships they captured in WW2.


quadraspididilis

A mix of things captured as well as U.S. ships that were decommissioned.


carnalgadfly

You cant see what happened to the see life but the birds are clearly freaking out.


Hipposapien

Most of the sea life became birds for a few seconds.


btdWyatt

Isn’t Godzilla under there?


Paulanator7

Was looking for a godzilla comment. They tried but only made him stronger and angry.


ShuantheSheep3

Water will always impress me, 150m was able to mostly contain a blast that would otherwise produce a mushroom cloud miles high.


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The US dropped 23 total homages to its imperialism in those islands.


onliwenimtrunk

That’ll show the underwater creatures


strikezcoal

Thus begins SpongeBob SquarePants... WITH A BANG!


ClownfishSoup

Scientist #1 : Wait, how do we know the reaction will stop rather than continue reacting with all the water and destroying the earth? Scientist #2: Well, we dont, but we're hoping it doesn't. Anyway, press the button.


UnfairAd7220

There was a concern that the first test would ignite the atmosphere. By the time they were testing thermonuclear weapons, that fear didn't exist anymore.


ZlGGZ

Governments are fucking stupid when it comes to weapons testing.


0zerosinjin

Thousands of sea creatures were harmed in the making of this video


surp_

For all the hand wringers: The fact that these tests proved how nasty and powerful nukes can be, is the *reason* they aren't used today. Be thankful they tested them at this size and decided MAD was a legitimate possibility. Imagine both sides developed these things a few years earlier. Everyone reading this - almost without exception - has never seen global war like WW2. The *only* reason we haven't had another one is nukes. Ironically - so far - they are the true peacekeeper. Id rather have sacrificed a few atolls in the 1950's to ensure that there are no more wars. Pretty sure wars are worse for the environment again.


kmherrod

Anyone know what happened to those ships out there? Looks like they should’ve been yeeted