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AOC calls for expulsion of any members of Congress involved in planning January 6 riot

AOC calls for expulsion of any members of Congress involved in planning January 6 riot

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Bishop120

It takes a 2/3rds vote from required house (House or Senate) to expel any member. This will never happen. Instead what needs to happen is they need to be prosecuted for insurrection and treason so that they become automatically ineligible for their office and immediately removed. Much easier to convince 12 people off the street that someone is guilty than to convince a party to kick out its own member. Edit: Article I, section 5 of the United States Constitution provides that "Each House \[of Congress\] may determine the Rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two-thirds, expel a member." Dont confuse this with 14th Amendment section 3 - No Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. Edit 2: For all those saying that treason would require us to be legally at war with another country/enemy. Levying war isn't limited to formally declaring war. It includes any forcible opposition to the execution of a public law. Such "forcible opposition" ordinarily requires actual use of force by multiple people with the common purpose of preventing some law from being enforced. Weapons aren't always required; sheer numbers can be enough. Merely conspiring to overthrow the government isn't levying war—there must be an actual assemblage of people who are ready and intend to use force. So, no person acting alone can be guilty of levying war. The insurrection on Jan6th as well as all the congress members who conspired together to organize the insurrection would be prosecutable for treason. The terms used in the definition derive from English legal tradition, specifically the Treason Act 1351. Levying war means the assembly of armed people to overthrow of the government or to resist its laws. Those who assemble to levy war, as well as those who conspire with them, can be prosecuted.


xxxpdx

This right here is the answer. Let’s do this now.


NoCreativeName2016

As a reminder to people who are sitting on grand juries. Depending on what jurisdiction you are in, you can likely investigate and charge whatever crimes within your jurisdiction the grand jury wants to investigate. You are not limited to doing what the prosecutor brings to you. They work for you, not the other way around.


DarthWeenus

Wow I had no idea. How would that work? Do you yourself ask the judge? Or do you need to come to consensus within the jury? Ive never sat on a jury in any form.


EmbarrassedLawSecond

If normal juries are like judges then grand juries are like prosecutors. What a grand jury is capable of depends on jurisdiction but almost everywhere grand juries have a lot more power than people think. There isn't really any asking involved by the grand jury, more like telling.


JesusWuta40oz

A Grand Jury can go anywhere it feels it must as a body during a case. There are some guidelines but overall if you ask a question they will find the answer because they have to do that. Regular juries are limited in the scope of what is being presented at that time because the "legwork" has already been done on it. Edit: Was on a grand jury for 16 months.


starmartyr

A federal grand jury doesn't even need to follow normal evidentiary procedure. They can file subpoenas without probable cause and are allowed to consider evidence that would not be admissible in court under the fourth amendment.


ChicagoBull1985

Sounds like they need to be charged with treason.


iamthinksnow

Sedition, but yes.


samster11er

Overthrowing the duly elected government qualifies these Americans for both sedition and treason.


gingerneko

There was an armed assault on the Capitol in which peace officers were killed or maimed and later died. That's an act of war against the American Government.


reasonswhicharemyown

Treason is very specific, and as much as I hate what these people have done, it probably doesn't qualify.


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Opening-Resolution-4

The greatest generation, what's left of them, voted for them and their predecessors.


Constant-Pay8406

You don't have to wonder. We have thousands of documentaries about WWII


timhortonsghost

>I can't help but wonder what the greatest generation would do with these insurrectionists and fascists. I mean, based on the past 5 years, probably vote them into office.


frog_without_a_cause

Insurrection, then. Seems pretty specific to me.


Victory33

Forgive my ignorance but what does it take to bring up/enforce criminal charges in the first place? Does that require a vote as well?


thisgameissoreal

I'm no expert but I think any crimes uncovered by congress just get referred to the DOJ to determine if prosecution is necessary. I don't think the house actually charges people. Feel free to correct me if wrong though.


Omnipotent48

Oh great, Democracy is now at the mercy of *Merrick Garland.*


EmperorPenguinNJ

Yeah. He’s made it clear he won’t prosecute ANYONE for 1/6.


Hikikomori523

You'd think he'd hold a grudge against republicans for them ratfucking him out of a supreme court justice legacy. even though I dislike the man the gop did soap opera level hysterics to stop his appointment, that the senate majority leader at the time Mitch McConnell previously had fully 100% approved as a good gop pick.


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EmperorPenguinNJ

Yeah, but I’d rather him not prosecute them out of a grudge but because he sees it as a serious threat to democracy. Alas he does not.


Murrabbit

Thanks, Obama.


yourmansconnect

Well if Mitch let him be a justice we wouldn't have him doing fuck all in doj


spenway18

That's probably the most infuriating thing Mitch has done imo. "No lame duck nominees unless it's ours" YOU MOTHER FUCKER! How do you keep getting elected?!


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Easy_Humor_7949

Alabama would like a word.


Bishop120

No.. One of the US prosecuting attorneys needs to prosecute for insurrection. Legally insurrection/rebellion is the simplest law to prosecute. Other potential violations would be Seditious Conspiracy or Advocating the Overthrow of the Government >18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection > >Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. > > > >18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy > >If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. > > > >18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction. If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction. As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.


WeirdGymnasium

> Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. YOU'RE TAKING THIS OUT OF CONTEXT, THEY DIDN'T WRITE THIS THINKING THAT MY PARTY WOULD LOSE.


Zealousideal_Let_975

Why isn’t anyone going for this? It seems so clear cut. In addition to this, when you work for the federal government, EVERYONE signs the same contract, all the way from the Vice President down to even park people like me: you agree to not protest against the government while identified as a government employee. All members of Congress who participated in the Jan 6 Waddle to the Whitehouse and supported it publicly in the aftermath has broken contract and therefore should no longer have their jobs. They shouldn’t have lower standards for these clowns than for someone like me who just plants native plants for a living.


Victernus

Because they're worried it will be painted as 'imprisoning political opponents' and it will lose them votes.


jpgray

Democrats are always underestimating how much Americans love team sports. I'm pretty convinced that throwing the fucking book at Republican criminals will win them far more votes than they lose.


Iamien

And how refusing to score just gets people to stop watching the games(participating).


LaughDull967

And they fail to realize that Republicans are quickly moving toward a point where votes won’t matter. Republicans will fix elections, declare themselves winners of the elections they lose, or stage a rebellion if they lose. They’re already doing it, and democrats are letting them get away with it. They’re practicing, trying different methods. If nobody does anything, eventually it’ll work.


Zealousideal_Let_975

Ugh you’re right. If Democrats cared as much about the law as they do about votes they would actually get the votes. I’m so tired of their games. “The boys throw stones at the frogs in jest while the frogs die in earnest”


relativeagency

Because, much like all the rest of our laws, it's only intended to be actually enforced for non-rich and powerful people. If they *really* have to, they might pick one actual rich and powerful person to be the fall guy, their Bernie Madoff, to maintain some illusory semblance of accountability. "That guy did all of it, plus we never really liked him anyway, throw him and only him in jail and let's all go on with our lives knowing justice was served today."


AssumeItsSarcastic

There are no constitutional limitations for civil or criminal charges being brought against a sitting politician. There's a worthless Nixon-era DOJ memo claiming such protection exists for the President, but there's been no such claims regarding Congressmen.


kernalbuket

The "Drain the Swamp" party will of course be against actually trying to drain the swamp


crackdup

The "cooperate if you have nothing to hide" party will also go out of its way to defy subpoenas, delay the process in courts, and negotiate closed door testimonies wherever possible.. The Jan 6 committee needs to hold public hearings wherever possible, if they want the unvarnished truth to come out.. we have seen endless instances of obfuscation of truth on Fox news which just muddies the waters and prevents people from learning the extent of wrongdoing Edit : [case](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/14/media-consumers-most-likely-believe-trumps-falsehoods-fox-news-watchers/) in point


Bishop120

The "Law and Order" party will ignore both the law and cause disorder. I'm sensing a pattern here when it comes to the GQP on what the party is really about...


f7f7z

The " I call it like I see it" party will not watch the video proof


Yitram

The "He tells it like it is" party will again explain to us what Trump 'akshully meant' when he told them to go to the Capitol.


geoffbowman

The "But her emails" party will not care whatsoever about any digital evidence that comes to light especially if it also happens to violate security protocols.


comebackjoeyjojo

The “Make America Great Again” party will look to sabotage democracy and tear apart the very constitution America was built on.


germsburn

The 'lock her up' party will suddenly say imprisoning members of the opposite political spectrum for any reason is authoritarian!


the_parthenon

The “we need to stamp out fundamentalist terrorism” party will embrace terrorism as a tactic, and fundamentalism as an ethos.


Monkey_Adventures

The "He's your president now, deal with it" party will continue to not deal with the current president being where he is


yuwashme

Such an amusing thread. But actually quite realistic :/


Mo_Nages

The party of "Christianity" will likely excuse any and everything these people do all because Trump stacked the Supreme Court in their favor. This is by far the best thread I've seen in weeks.


Uncle-Cake

The "Blue Lives Matter" party will downplay the deaths of police officers.


2019inchnails

The “don’t tread on me” party wants to tread on us


hipyounggunslinger

I believe they actually used it to wipe their asses after they broke into the Capitol and literally shit on the floor of our House of government.


ting_bu_dong

They will point to the Constitution to justify why we aren't supposed to be a democracy.


ObiShaneKenobi

"Those weren't his dogs" they will shout as Trump calls them off via video.


South-Builder6237

Ah yes, everyone knows Antifa loves nothing more than becoming overweight middle aged white men with goatees, sporting camo and Trump gear whole shouting "Fuck Antifa!". It's *so* their thing.


ObiShaneKenobi

Look no further than the Ashli Babbitt story. She was there to overthrow the government, she was there to make Trump president, she died shoving her way to do serious harm, and yet she is lionized. That is the scary shit to me.


NotGalenNorAnsel

They say what they mean in one case, they're anti-antifa, so, pro-fascism. Also, pro-lifers killing abortion doctors is a nice old one.


TabletTeacher

The “I’m just asking questions” party will continue to ask questions even though the answer is directly in front of their face over and over and over.


ting_bu_dong

> The “I’m just asking questions” party will not want to pursue this issue any further. Also.


Happy__Heathen

100% true. My GOP husband (long story) will literally exit the room as quickly as possible (seriously- he practically RUNS) if national news is on, no matter what the topic. He wants to keep his 100% denyability for pretty much everything on the news. I called him on this a couple days ago... he insists that all national news media that isn't explicitly extreme right wing, is "ultra liberal biased lies" 🙄😂


vellyr

Why is he afraid to hear something if he knows it’s not true?


UsefulWhiteCrayon

Cognitive dissonance


milkweed2

Good luck with that marriage!!


-Pencilvester-

Sounds awful. I couldn't live with someone like that.


mean_mr_mustard75

Or it will become selectively edited.


theCroc

When they say Law and Order they mean: Law = I make the rules. Order = You sit down and shut up or I will mace/shoot you.


colorcorrection

It's way more simple than that. "law and order" is a dog whistle for "punish black people for being black".


thoughtsome

And gay people for being gay, women for being women. But yeah, the law part doesn't matter. "Order" means keeping the hierarchy of the white straight Christian male on top. They don't hate minorities, as long as they know their place and keep to it.


ting_bu_dong

> "Order" means keeping the hierarchy This. This this this. "Conservatives are threatening democracy!" Yeah? No shit. As if that's a new thing. They hate democracy. They've always hated democracy.


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freddiemercurial

The 'Law and Order' party want to make laws that will allow them to order other people around.


Diplodocus114

That is what we cannot understand in the UK. The police are supposed to protect and defend the public. not shoot them for no reason.


forkspace

The problem is they just don't care. I told my friend I couldn't vote for Trump bc he's a con man, citing his foundation and Trump University. He told me who cares. Decency is out the window. It's my team vs theirs. Frankly that's the biggest difference between the left n right. The left actually holds their politicians accountable.


TryCalm371

Yah someone told me that just means he’s a good business man. Ripping off people equals a good businessman, gotcha! Oh and they told me I was jealous, wtf jealous like a school girl jealous of her friends new Lisa Frank Trapper Keeper.


someonewithabutt

I think the right thinks there's equivalence because they hold their poltiticians accountable to the ideal of getting it done by any means possible. This usually means siezing power in whatever possible way. And if you didn't do everything possible (leagal or not) to make sure the right wins, \*THEN\* you'll be held accountable. This is why the angry mob was out for Pence.


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Dun DUN


John_Duh

> if you have nothing to hide Well you have the explanation right there, they probably have everything to hide.


abolish_karma

The party of "every accusation is a confession". Great stuff when they're talking about how "they're going to take all your freedoms"


Frosty-Pie9990

Really love them going into a frothing rage from Murdoch Media here about the Murdoch Media picks that got elected in Australia. Dumbest people on earth.


NCH007

Some of them are. Some of them know exactly what they're doing. Not sure who's worse TBH.


Backwardspellcaster

>The "cooperate if you have nothing to hide" party will also go out of its way to defy subpoenas, delay the process in courts, and negotiate closed door testimonies wherever possible.. They plan to drag this out to mid-terms, where they are slated to win the house and the senate, after which they will terminate the investigation and destroy any and all evidence.


anon_anthropos

It’s specifically ‘cooperate if you have nothing to hide’, and they have a LOT to hide.


perfect_square

As far as the "witch" hunts played out during the Trump administration, they sure turned up a bunch of witches.


JimWilliams423

> The "Drain the Swamp" party will of course be against actually trying to drain the swamp The "swamp" they wanted drained was anyone who was actually competent at running the government because those people are an obstacle to fascism. I mean, ronald dump appointed [the guy who wanted to dismantle the Department of Energy](https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-perry-20161213-story.html) to run the DoE.


JPINFV2

The guy who didn’t know that the DoE was responsible for the nukes as well…


definitelynotSWA

Friendly reminder that DeJoy is still dismantling the USPS.


HelplessMoose

Although it appears that getting rid of DeJoy is complicated if possible at all. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/biden-cannot-fire-usps-louis-dejoy.html


ahitright

I always ask myself what would have happened if the reverse was true, a republican president with a democrat-appointed USPS head. I think we all know they'd get it done, even if it meant doing illegal shit and even if that illegal shit was transparent as fuck (it helps to have a robust brainwashing apparatus like fakebook and fox "news"). I really wish Democratic politicians were as passionate at preserving Democracy as Republicans are at installing a dictatorship.


RedditIsNeat0

And his Secretary of Education was a woman who hates public education.


Scubalefty

When the swamp is eventually drained, and they dig under the mud and fetid silt and then turn over the rock at the very bottom, they'll find Mitch McConnell. [Fun Fact](https://i.imgur.com/E2qIf0K.jpeg)


Miserable_Tadpole_61

Fact: turtles bury themselves in the mud to hibernate.


Islandgirl1444

like the Jordan guy who is so stupid that he cannot recall who was the president at the time. Recollections sure vary!


Herb_Derb

It's the same way the "Stop the Steal" party were the ones actually trying to steal the election.


streethistory

Unless draining it means they can dredge it, and give themselves lake front property to increase their houses values when they refill it.


maslibros

Drain the swamp has devolved into "unclog the toilet", IMO.


izDpnyde

Drained and was filling it up with corruption and sewage.


theClumsy1

Expulsion is not enough.


Lordborgman

Expulsion, investigation, conviction, incarceration, etc


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Ravioli292

It's the bare minimum


MikeWazowski4ever

I don't think we should think of this as the bare minimum; they need prison time.


oxidiser

Given the lack of consequences for these people over the past 6ish years, I just want to see ANY REAL consequence for them. After we normalize that, maybe we can pursue what they deserve.


balofchez

Keyword being fucking "any". I'm so goddamn sick of these clickbait headlines every fucking day for the last 4 years and - please correct me if I'm wrong - literally nothing changing in any capacity. These pieces of shit are just apparently above the law


chaun2

>These pieces of shit are just apparently above the law That is the way it seems, now I think Bannon may be facing some consequences, but I don't know what has happened there in the last week or so


trevorpinzon

The House voted to hold him in contempt, now it's up to the AG to push actual consequences.


r4nd0md0od

>I don't think we should think of this as the bare minimum; they need prison time. yah can swap some more taxi drivers out of Guantanamo or something? I bet the right would close that place super fast if they knew insurrectionists we're going there.


reverendrambo

It's certainly one of the bear necessities


Belerophon17

It's not enough and I doubt we'll even get that.


smokebomb_exe

I mean, we haven't even gotten anything from Trump skirting 14 years of paying taxes...


Belerophon17

Bingo. And if you don't have accountability in government, you don't really have anything.


baneofthesouth

They should lose benefits, pensions, any and all perks that come with taxpayer money. Just like a dishonorable discharge as well. Never again allowed to seek out public office


GunSafetyDwightt

I can't believe this is even a debate. How can planning to overthrow an election and planning a terrorist attack not enough to get kicked out of congress?


Thought_Without_Form

Reasonable, bear minimum shit that republicans will oppose because they are the party of insurrection.


educated-emu

Agreed, attempted murder is an offence so attempted government overthrow through the use of force should also be punishable.


Ghstfce

Sedition is still sedition even if the attempt fails.


gamestopdecade

I want a sound bite of a lawyer saying that “sedition is still sedition even if they are incompetent”


Ghstfce

If one doesn't already exist, I feel confident there will be one in the next couple weeks.


Redshirt_80

Like, any lawyer? I work at a law firm and while i may not be a lawyer myself, I could hook that up for you… how much is it worth to you?


Sweatsock_Pimp

I’m an expert in Bird Law. I’d be willing to do it for free.


HotdogGeorgia

I've watched every episode of Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law, and I am saying sedition is still sedition even if they are incompetent!


runtheplacered

Didja get that thing I sentcha?


ersatzgiraffe

> how much is it worth to you? This guy laws.


harpsm

Yet Republicans are literally arguing "It didn't succeed, so no harm no foul."


BadCompany22

It's also a bad idea to continue allowing people that attempted to forcefully overthrow a government to have a part in the legislative process of that same government.


izDpnyde

The magic 8 ball says, “most likely!”


jedicountchocula

People were killed during the commission a felony. Why aren’t these co-conspirators being charged with the felony murder law? If they had been the get away driver for liquor store heist gone wrong, they would be charged with felony murder. Lock these fuckers up.


Qwertysapiens

*bare ^sorry


beef_sauce

Fact: "bear minimum shit" is a single bear turd.


invokin

It's almost like it's so reasonable they wrote it into the Constitution. You know, the one that all the GOPers claim to worship and carry copies of in their pocket.


Wyrmnax

That is minimal, tbh. You shouldnt get to be part of a government you just tried to overthrow. Of course it will fail, because the GQP is only interested in power.


outerworldLV

Amendment 14, Sec. 3.


Ravioli292

But how do u even sit 50 ft. next to these ppl knowing that they tried to destroy your country? Why is this being handled with such kid gloves?


Lumpy_Connection413

*have you murdered


HailtheCrow

Because democrats in congress are convinced that reaching across the aisle still exists because the majority are still middle age to old people, and those are the politics they were brought up with. They haven’t realized that unity and reaching across the aisle doesn’t exist because the 40 or so percent that makes up the current Republican Party wants the rest of us dead.


JimWilliams423

Its worse than that. Ever since Reagan slapped the shit out of the Ds in 1980, so soon after watergate, the Ds have acted like the codependent victim in an abusive relationship. They do everything they can to acomodate the Rs, for fear that the Rs will rage out. But it doesn't matter what the Ds do, like every abuser, the R's rage comes from within. Ds that were in office in the 80s and 90s have been mentally beaten into submission. Even Bernie - he was one of the last presidential candidates to endorse ending the filibuster. Ds that entered politics since Obama are mostly the other way - AOC has said that all her life Rs have behaved like buffoons so that's how she treats them. And Warren, she was the first senator to call for ronald dump's impeachment and an early proponent of ending the filibuster.


GrafZeppelin127

Well, that, and also the fact that the Democrats can’t actually *do* anything to these other congresspeople constitutionally without Republicans voting for it as well.


NotYetiFamous

If only republicans held each other to the constitution..


Hoppus87

How is planning an insurrection not treason? Edit: are doing some reading I believe this falls into the realm of Sedition [https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115) Pretty cut and dry: “Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.”


topcheese911

Oh it definitely is. I’ve been saying it since day one. Treason is the crime of attacking a state authority to which one owes allegiance. This typically includes acts such as participating in a war against one's native country, attempting to overthrow its government, spying on its military, its diplomats, or its secret services for a hostile and foreign power, or attempting to kill its head of state. A person who commits treason is known in law as a traitor.


Hoppus87

There have been reports of dozens of meetings and members of Congress promising pardon, pretty clear indication they knew what they were doing was in fact illegal. [https://archive.md/ol0Vk#selection-1049.389-1049.591](https://archive.md/ol0Vk#selection-1049.389-1049.591)


Lord_Jar_Jar_Binks

Why confuse things by using your own wording? Treason is the ONLY crime defined by the US Constitution, and it goes as follows: >Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. I too feel Jan 6 rioting ought to qualify as treason but I know that legal people get bothered by the "War" part and consider it "sedition" instead.


wafflehousewhore

This shouldn't be a "calls for" thing, it should be automatic


Dull_Tonight

She shouldn’t be the only one calling for it.


bobbybottombracket

This is what I don't get...


Floppy_Jalopy

>Since 1789 the Senate has expelled only 15 members. Of that number, 14 were expelled during the Civil War for supporting the Confederacy [Senate.gov](https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/expulsion.htm) >In the entire history of the United States Congress, 20 Members have been expelled: 15 from the Senate and five from the House of Representatives [Wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_from_the_United_States_Congress) The rest might realise it's probably a waste of breath even if it's true. It took a legitimate war to remove people from congress.


RatInaMaze

I think people are staying on the sidelines until the investigation is concluded. Then they’ll put out a tweet about it and move on


GotMoFans

It should be that simple, shouldn’t it?


Solidus-Prime

Did you hear the latest? That those scum bag GOP traitors were telling the seditionists that they'd get blanket pardons while helping them plan the Jan 6 insurrection?? The entire fucking party needs to go. Now.


realworldeditor

Absolutely. As much as the right likes to downplay January 6th, or even whataboutism it with the BLM protests/riots in 2020, at the end of the day the core purpose of the event remains the same: they tried to overthrow an election and insert their candidate. This is the textbook definition of a coup attempt and an insurrection, both of which are traitorous to our country as it’s anti-democracy and anti-American. Anyone who remotely helped the insurgents with their attempt to overthrow the election with violence should be apprehended and spend years in prison, as they acted against our country. We’ve treated foreign terrorists who were far less successful in sowing turmoil in our country and its government than these domestic terrorists have.


swankyspitfire

We are closer to January 6th 2022 than 2021. How the fuck is this still even a conversation? A sitting president caused an insurrection and tried to overturn democracy. Anyone complicit in that should be jailed. End of story.


Pistonenvy

"AOC calls for most obvious and sensible reaction to literal treason."


KPR70

Everyone should be calling for this.


xXQuantumCreeperXx

How are we downgrading this to a riot now?!.. they attempted to kill many politicians and take over government buildings... this was an insurrection! Do not reduce it to a riot. They should all be charged with treason.


jaydenkirtawn

If any of them had any integrity at all, they'd resign rather than serve in an ["illegitimate government."](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/02/fact-check-14-congressmen-expelled-1861-supporting-confederacy/4107713001/)


Parking_Watch1234

Zero integrity is a prerequisite for GOP membership, unfortunately.


DeliberateMelBrooks

And jail. Don’t forget to send them to jail too. Jail. Right away.


Team-CCP

Prison. Jail is the tineout before prison. You pay bond to get out of jail. Prison is what we want. Bond could be denied though and probably so


IAmJohnny5ive

>The report identified the members of Congress who allegedly took part in these conversations or were represented by senior staffers as Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Paul Gosar, Lauren Boebert, Madison Cawthorn, Andy Biggs and Louie Gohmert.


Denttalen

Agreed they need to be kicked out for LIFE!!


iceflame1211

Imagine keeping conspiring to murder your co-workers with the intent of taking over the business and *not* being fired when it doesn't come to fruition.


dannyjohnson1973

Next week: GOP calls for expulsion of any members of Congress not involved in planning January 6 riot


AgreeableRub7

Lmao expulsion? They should be fucking jailed and treated like the terrorists that invaded the capitol. Fuck them.


Rellgidkrid

If you helped plan to let a bunch of violent and/or angry people into your workplace to disrupt a big meeting, do you think you’d still work there?


halpinator

Especially if during the "disruption" a handful of people got killed.


MrTubalcain

I mean it’s right there: Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)


Yitram

I mean, this is really well below the bare minimum that should happen. Bare minimum should be removal from office as well as barring from holding office in future or being involved with anything political (PACs, lobbying, Fox News flunky, etc).


ScoopsMcGillicutty

Good. Ain’t her fault “don’t let the guilty party make the laws” is what passes for progressive in America, but here we are.


BluebirdTight6023

Love or hate her - she’s right.


initiatefailure

I've been wondering since jan6 how we haven't just been watching the Dems oversee the dismantling the GOP as a political apparatus following their failed coup and couldn't decide if it was incompetence or lack of political will to actually govern. Like that party should be over now and we should wondering how long before the Dems split between progressives and moderates


1SunflowerinRoses

Any member of Congress who had a hand in January 6. Should be treated as a traitor to the United States 🇺🇸 and for not upholding their oath of office.


TCK-1717

How is this not a given? Wtf America


I_Lick_Bananas

Suddenly one side of the chamber is nearly empty....


pwzapffe99

They shouldn't just be expelled, they should be arrested for treason.


Landman518

every traitor including trump should go to jail.


Firethatshitstarter

First one to go should be Marjorie Taylor green


GuyDanger

Those involved in the Jan 6th riots gambled and lost. Time for repercussions.


OhSureBlameCookies

I mean.... Which part is wrong? If you are a member of Congress and you participated in a planning a terrorist attack on the Capitol you should be in Fort Leavenworth, pending trial. Expulsion is not just warranted by their actions, their actions should be treated by statute as de facto resignations if other members won't remove them.


Manbadger

Expulsion would be getting off easy.


Inconceivable-2020

They should be charged with Seditious conspiracy and removed under article 3 of the 14th amendment. I say should because Merrick Garland is a MAGA supporter and is not going to prosecute anyone but the pawns.


CogitatorX

This is the big test for representative democracy in America. Do the right thing now and hold these criminals who have no respect for the Republic and Constitution responsible and punish them or let them weasel out of it and see the US be one a single party, minority ruled fascist state by the end of the decade. I know which one my money is on.


stevo3001

Remove the context, don't name who said it, and the statement is impossible to argue against- 'Any member of Congress who helped plot a terrorist attack on our nation's capitol must be expelled' It understates what should happen to such people of course, but obviously this should happen at the very minimum


Automaticmann

That's precisely the kind of stuff that makes me like her, and also precisely what makes republicans dislike her.


JScrib325

She and I don't always agree, but she's 1000% right here. You cannot have elected members of congress plotting for at best a disruption to the democratic process and at worst the actual physical harm of their fellow congress people. That sets a dangerous precedent that I don't know if we can come back from.


Potential_Track_8388

Imagine if you planned for a mob to break into your workplace for any reason, much less to disrupt the central mission of your workplace. What would happen to you? You'd be fired and face jail time - this should be especially true of Congress.


LadyBogangles14

This should go without saying. Lawmakers take an oath to uphold & defend the constitution. January 6th was an attempted coup. At least they should be removed from Congress, if not charged with Sedition.


airJordan45

This 100% makes sense. Insurrectionists who tried to dismantle our democracy should not be allowed to sit on Congress and shape our laws. The GQP will just see this as a partisan attack though because they don't actually care about protecting the democracy.


kwhicks

This is not controversial and any citizen should agree with this. They flat out attempted to overthrow democracy. If ANY person thinks this is wrong, I’ll be more than happy to their info along to the FBI. It shouldn’t matter what political party you are, Jan 6th is an abomination


yamaha2000us

Prosecution then expulsion.


wolfangggg

Which for some reason is a controversial statement..


DonkeyPowerful6002

Are we being serious? These people tried to overthrow the government. Life in prison for treason or exile their asses!


ArtisanJagon

Just crazy to me how Republicans will shout how they are the party of "law and order" but seem to turn a blind eye to their fellow republicans committing crimes.


showerturtle1234

I like, really don’t think this is crazy. Am I wrong?


leedo8

This is a rarely used tactic called common sense.


Darkfigure145

Headline: AOC calls for reasonable common sense response to the insurrection.


WestFast

Most decent Americans agree with this which is why conservatives will get hysterical and clutch pearls on Their fainting couch about “whatever happened to being accepting of opposing views!?!?”


No_Tap2473

From a Canadian I ask you this. What the fuck were those idiots thinking? Storming the Capitol building of their own country is treason.