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cenilecreep

Friends! Family! Internet lovers! Welcome back to the east coast live threads. I'm your host, CC, and we're gonna have lots of fun tonight. Kick back, relax, and don't share spoilers. [Spoiler Thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/comments/kqmfxu/the_bachelor_east_coastcentral_spoiler_live/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


Doggolover123456

I’m mad they didn’t throw Victoria in the ring with Katie 🙃 because I got a feeling Katie would have handled that


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shaylaa30

I need Franco in paradise


thethomatoman

I hate that they made him keep Victoria on. Genuinely horrible human being. Worst first impression I've ever seen. Also feel bad for vibrator chick. She seemed fun but horrible decision so interrupt a convo with the vibrator only made worse cuz it was a deep convo. Some really nice people here, loved the first impression rose and loved how giddy he was too give it. Really heartwarming moment. He seems like a cool dude. Also have no clue what to make of Kit. Had Mykenna vibes at first. Also girl know chess before you use that


properminting

The presence of Victoria in the show just degrades the show, I don't get why producers plant people like these there. I know so many people who would love the show once they past those few first episodes of the fake villains. But guess what? Those people just watch the first episode, see someone like Victoria and just think the show is a 100% set up joke.


macademicnut

> just think the show is a 100% set up joke. Exactly... everyone knows it's only an 85% set up joke


Jessie41286

Can we stop with the Big Sky spoilers on these threads please?!


HOTBOY69696

Happy blue cheese day


taytaygar2

WE STAN ABIGAIL. SHE MUST BE PROTECTED AT ALL TIMES❤️❤️


slantedshacks

SO MANY MARKETERS!


poppysand

Well, the thread wasn't quite as hopping as Big Sky, but it was still fun. Nighhhht guys!


Pleasant-Dragonfruit

Low key liked that game. But will never watch again.


BornAshes

Same, once was enough and that's the end of that chapter.


toxicoden

Completely agree. See u next week


poppysand

Beard Boy was always quick to agree with the right answer when someone threw it out and he was super quiet otherwise. I'm happy she didn't get swayed by his argument that it had to be Til.


katieinma

I was *convinced* it was Til. Good game, good game.


poppysand

Til felt like the red herring, to me. Everything fit so well, that it felt like it couldn't be right. (Even though that in itself could've been a bait and switch).


toxicoden

Bring Til on bachelorette


thefinalforest

100%


thefinalforest

Feels good to see Briana and Till so happy tbh


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honestly feels like the first 10 minutes of a rom com lol. that was cute!


thefinalforest

Lol, would watch


angieacct

Till was MVP


NewImagination

"i'm getting a wedding!!!" lmao


jukeboxhero515

Wow, I thought the hustler clues would be red herrings, but clearly they were not. Like they didn't even try with the clues


treyyx

Why was that so so intriguing lmao


cryotechnics

Called it! Beard guy was pretty obvious


jukeboxhero515

I thought it was \*too\* obvious, but I guess I was giving ABC too much credit lol


flaminghotdillpickle

BEARD MAN


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"you look like someone that would do poetry" lmao this show is literally just about stereotypes and judging a book by its cover


thefinalforest

Okay, it’s Beard Boy. He’s not saying shit. When I play games like this my strategy is to not talk and it works amazingly well.


poppysand

Literally the only time he's opened his mouth is to say the construction workers would laugh at him if he brought a back massager (that he'd probably have at home) to work and so it couldn't be his amazon list lol


toxicoden

That’s exactly what I do when my group of friends play among us and I’m the imposter lol


toxicoden

It has to be beard boy....


MassiveIncrease7404

it’s 100% the girl.... no questions, give me the money


lycurgusduke

It’s definitely blue shirt girl


championofthesun-

Def beardy


tiggerlgh

I still think it’s bearded guy


rebzaurs

Idk her reaction to say yes to the dress seemed legit!!


poppysand

Whether Till is the Hustler or not, it doesn't matter, I'm rooting for them to win. He's the only person that they're grilling, the other two are just gliding through without really caring to question the other. And I'm on Till's side lolol


streetcarrebellion

kit reminds me of exactly how I pictured Kitsey Barbour from The Goldfinch to look like.


Himekp

It's the girl. She played the heavy accusation game and she knew it was tobasco


poppysand

I thought her "😲 ohhhh my godddddd! 😲" at it being Tabasco felt super fake. Like, even if she isn't the hustler, it still seems like she knew the answer lol


Himekp

100%


jukeboxhero515

If it is beard boy, I'm going to be very disappointed because it's the most obvious answer. Of course you would think the bearded guy has seen The Fifth Element 80 times. I planted my flag earlier that I think it's the lady in the blue shirt


thefinalforest

Haha this is so true. Like he didn’t know it was a Besson film.


tiggerlgh

Never seen it so that wouldn’t help me. But I do think it’s him


toxicoden

None of them are familiar with pico de gallo ? Tf ?


caseyrey

Lol right?


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hipster beard guy is 100% proud of his ~~probably shitty~~ salsa


cryotechnics

He also mentioned the vinegar in Tabasco right at the last second


thefinalforest

Could literally be any of the three of them. The Amazon stuff seemed Beard Guy-like, and he’s got some seriously shifty eyes, but the other two are also very smooth, cold, poised, and good at misdirection/investigation. As it goes on I get more uncertain. Someone mentioned they might be actors and I actually would not be surprised—they’re all very “on.”


toxicoden

I THINK ITS BEARD BOY


cryotechnics

Definitely beard


paigetheslp2020

Does anyone have a livestream?


BornAshes

Craig's just happy he can finally sit down in a chair after having to pace for god only knows how long.


NewImagination

beard is sus


Obvious-Guarantee-29

Every bachelor/ette season preview contains an ambulance shot. This one did not disappoint


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What's even the point of this game?


toxicoden

When does big sky come back


Himekp

Jan 26th


goldenmirrors

Red shirt lady is totally the hustler.


hc600

Good Doctor is back next week guys!


inthedesert23

Justice for Troy!


toxicoden

So this is all fake as fuck, right?


thefinalforest

I’m wondering. The people are so “together.” There’s no nervousness or anything.


Pleasant-Dragonfruit

Y’all they are deflecting too much now


pajamasinbananas

did Kaili (underwear girl) make it to the next round?


THAWED21

Yes. In the last few roses.


TY4G

Am I the hustler?


thefinalforest

Suddenly the hustler is me 🎶


BornAshes

The hustler was within us all along


toxicoden

We’re all the hustler this blessed day


BornAshes

It was the journey to finding the hustler that made us all realize we were the hustler.


tacoribiotch

The girl with the vibrator looks identical to Kristina


BriscoeBlues

She reminds me of Vanessa Bayer from SNL too!


toonetime13

Yessss!! I’m so glad I’m not the only one who saw it!!


jukeboxhero515

Beard boy is too obvious, it's the lady in the blue shirt. She agrees with whomever says the right answer


BornAshes

LMAO Craig putting the top hat on the skull and pretending it's Abe Lincoln.


kh7934

Just had a thought. Maybe Kit and Bennett will fall in love on BIP and bond over their wealth, condescension, and pretentiousness! (Although Bennett seemed like a better person than I have a hunch Kit is)


annamosa

i said this in another thread too! their energy would be too powerful


Bevbear

Did she do something rude? I must have missed that.


poppysand

"You're a musician!!!" So he should know absolutely everything about music, because he likes writing songs?


angieacct

Beard is sus


toxicoden

Definitely beard boy


poppysand

Taco Bell really be like, "Will you eat this if we put in Joe Keery" and for a hot second I went "🤔 well, I like cheese fries."


dayroutinenight

Who cares what color the girl he chooses skin is??!! I can’t believe a lot of people here think he “should” or “must” or “has to” choose a black girl to “make history” or “viewers happy.” He’s not here to break a world record? What if the “love of his life” just so happens to be white? Or the other way around even. I realize not everyone thinks this way but I see no color on people and think some of these comments are absolutely ridiculous. All of these girls are gorgeous and he’ll pick whichever one he feels complete with, skin tone aside.


dayroutinenight

The people downvoting this comment are exactly who I’m talking about/need to hear this.


ioughtaknow

I think you should read what some BIPOC folks are saying because this is far more complex an issue than you realize as a white person. There were some interesting conversations around something Rachel has said— that the show has a history of casting BIPOC men who have never dated non-white women. It is believed that since this is the case with Matt, that he may not actually be *open* to dating Black women. It’s one thing to not have dated people of colour just because you’ve happened not to, and another thing to actively avoid it. That’s not even the full complexity of the issue, either. There’s a lot more to it, and you can dig deeper into it if you’re interested (I’ve learned a lot about it on this sub).


dayroutinenight

I will point out one key statement here, which is, “it is believed that...” Nobody will ever know his truth until he outright shares it and he likely never will because...nobody’s business! However, I can acknowledge that you make a very valid point about the Bachelor franchise as a whole and that now includes Matt. Will definitely take you up on that offer and do some research on my own, starting but not ending with this sub.


Bevbear

Right! People are upset cause he’s not black enough, or he has dated white girls, etc.


dayroutinenight

I’ve heard that too and WTF is that about? Not black enough? LMAO. People who can confidently say things like that need to get a grip. So what if he’s into white girls? America is going to crucify him? Jfc.


Bevbear

Apparently if he doesn’t live his life according to the way some demand, he is less than. I guess we are all supposed to hate anyone with money, has two parents, wants kids, and most of all hate anyone who is pretty. And if Matt chooses a pretty white girl he will be hated. Never mind that he adores his loving mother who is a white woman.


homemade_mayo

Old lady is hustler


treyyx

I think the old white woman in the red shirt is the hustler for sure


Flotsamandjetsam2020

Not vibing this catty influencer feel to the season.


bbk8z

Hey hello hi sorry I missed it but did Kristin go home or get a rose??


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she got a rose!


bbk8z

Hallelujah ty 💕


turtleparade

Why is this just a Jackbox game


flaminghotdillpickle

Those are the best games though


turtleparade

Yes! They're so much fun.


Himekp

Can we go back to the good old days when this was a Big Sky thread?


NewImagination

why is this hustler show so bad/low production and why am i still watching lmao


TY4G

Why are we watching the hustler?


BornAshes

Because we all missed Craig ![gif](giphy|VLGwMKK2Be9A4)


Flotsamandjetsam2020

Definitely not a Tayshia-type season.


Bevbear

THANKFUL it’s not. That was a horrible season.


annamosa

why?


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poppysand

To be fair to the show, among us isn't even close to the first among us, either lol so hey why not.


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poppysand

This has nothing to do with anything, but I only just noticed that your flair is DILDO and that's so wild lsf;lgjsjj


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poppysand

An entire reddit community of dildos 🤣🤣🤣


BornAshes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Salem came first in 2014 but even that was based off of a party game called Mafia/Werewolf that was created in 1986.


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BornAshes

It's kind of funny because people totally streamed Town of Salem back when it was around but then some of the additional elements of Among Us and the more cartoon nature of it really made it go far more viral than ToS ever did.


Sayura

How short are these girls??? As a 5’2 shortie myself, they all look my height next to him!


connells_chain

Beard guy is the hustler.


tiggerlgh

I agree


justjamsz

I’ve decided that I hate this more than good sky big doctor but can’t change it because Craig Ferguson hot


beyoncepadthai4

“Good sky big doctor” lmaoooooo


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lmao same


jocelynwatson

If this teacher was my teacher I would withdraw.


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Jaxy5

This is closer to the old reality competition series The Mole


Calraquin

I would kill for The Mole to come back, the celebrity edition was top reality game show quality.


Jaxy5

I totally agree! A lot more complexity, sabotage, and suspicious characters than whatever this show is doing


jocelynwatson

Oooh I wonder if there’s somewhere I can watch that


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anxiousfgls

Oh snap I didn’t think so since zac didn’t follow tayshia for forever and I’m unspoiled I’ll delete I’m sorry!


lemony_accio

Ok it’s commercial guys, quick, nows the chance to change the channel, don’t get sucked in


toxicoden

It’s too late. I need to know who the hustler is now


jazzyjewess

Lol same


[deleted]

Okay as a girl who drives stick it kinda pisses me off when guys are surprised that a girl can drive stick. Like, do y’all think we’re incapable of shifting a lever or...?


THAWED21

I'm usually shocked when anyone under 40 can drive stick. It's not hard, but it's not common.


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That’s fair! I’m 23 and four of my friends my age also drive stick, so it doesn’t seem super unusual to me, but I’m definitely biased! Though there are definitely more people my age that don’t drive stick than do overall.


tiggerlgh

I had the same thought. First car I had was a stick


MacaroonFair

Without spoiling! Do Matt and Heather have a history? Also, I feel like we've evolved past the need for her. She's always rubbed me the wrong way


swagachu11

I don’t remember 100%, but there was the whole party crew over the summer with Hannah B, Tyler C, Matt, and Heather is one of Hannah’s best friends, so possibly?


Iam2ndtoNunn

Other than her being best friends with Hannah B I don’t think there is history


hc600

I mean, Tia and Colton went on like one date, and that became a multi-episode arch on BIP sooo.....


Iam2ndtoNunn

Oh I’m sure they will use it. I was just saying there doesn’t seem to be any history of them dating or hooking up....that we know of. The only connection is Hannah


734nice

Is it bad I’m enjoying this game show


Pleasant-Dragonfruit

Yo but like who is the hustler


tiggerlgh

I was thinking the dark bearded guy


thefinalforest

The old guy has a very fake laugh, which makes me suspicious, but I think either the black guy (eager to direct suspicion, clearly very smart) or the blonde girl (icily competent and not emotive, like a true scammer)


Pleasant-Dragonfruit

I agree I think either black guy or long blonde hair. But long blonde hair is playing it almost too cool so I think she’s just suave so going with the black guy


thefinalforest

She is SO CALM. I’m kind of in awe. Definitely one of them!


734nice

The blonde girl !!


Snoo-68403

For me, it's the old guy!


RHOCLT23

That's what I think too!!!


Pleasant-Dragonfruit

Wait they’re both blonde though! The long hair right?


swagachu11

The girl from Georgia, I’m p sure!!


734nice

Yes!! Long hair’s body language is so closed off


justjamsz

what am I watching


BornAshes

This is Town of Salem


toxicoden

Why did Craig Ferguson do this :(


BornAshes

To pay for that place he has over in Glasgow that swanky pad where people throw Mardi Gras beads at him....you know...the one down by the lake.


bostonketoqueen

I know...


Stefairyy

Did Heather and Matt have a thing before this? Considering they prob know each other they hannah


tiggerlgh

Not that I know of. Not sure he ever met Heather in person.


thefinalforest

This gameshow is miserably bad


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I think Craig Ferguson is legitimately one of the funniest people in the world. But this show seems objectively terrible so far.


thefinalforest

I like him too. This is an odd choice. Maybe the pitch deck was super convincing lol


Southern_Donut10

Heather is one of the most forgettable people ever. Why Chris Harrison, why???


catmom728

Okay but like I could see Heather and Matt together but like come on you could have saved us this mess and met before the show.


poppysand

They're both very tall, which alone makes them look like a match.


smroselle

i get heather was on coltons season but does she have history with matt??


tiggerlgh

Not directly as far as I know


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She was Hannah B’s close friend and Hannah introduced them


Iam2ndtoNunn

Heather is really good friends with Hannah B, and she’s good friends with Matt.


carolinese9

She and Hannah B seem to be besties so there’s that connection?


koopkoopkoop

What is this chicken statue in the background as he meets all the girls? I can’t see anything else lmao


drakeandmax

I had Cassandra as F1. Was she even shown?


LadyGagaFanAccount

Who even is that lmaooo


throwitout3736

Did she ever get a rose? I was rooting for her


drakeandmax

I don’t think so?


Pisces_Mermaid

From the girls who got decent airtime tonight - Abigail Khaylah and Mari had no on screen moments in the preview. Concern or nah?


thefinalforest

They’re not dramatic, I choose to believe that’s the reason


ahhhtoomuchpressure

I hope it means they’re just unproblematic queens!