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Oct 25th Covid-19 Update - 1,618 new cases (Past 72 hours); 366 (+1) hospitalized of which 149 (+7) are in ICU; 8,156,608 (+36,114) vaccine doses administered, 89.6% of people 12 and older have received first dose, and 84.4% second dose; 20 additional deaths, total now 2,129

Oct 25th Covid-19 Update - 1,618 new cases (Past 72 hours); 366 (+1) hospitalized of which 149 (+7) are in ICU; 8,156,608 (+36,114) vaccine doses administered, 89.6% of people 12 and older have received first dose, and 84.4% second dose; 20 additional deaths, total now 2,129

cyclinginvancouver

43122 (+190) cases in the Vancouver Coastal Health region 103572 (+699) cases in the Fraser Health region 30279 (+254) cases in the Interior Health region 10380 (+186) cases in the Island Health region 14866 (+289) cases in the Northern Health region 297 (+0) cases of people who reside outside of Canada ​ 619 (-74) active cases in the Vancouver Coastal Health region 2030 (-21) active cases in the Fraser Health region 665 (-113) active cases in the Interior Health region 551 (+6) active cases in the Island Health region 1042 (+62) active cases in the Northern Health region


ipini

The per capita in Northern Health is nuts. Sigh.


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cyclinginvancouver

"89.6% (4,152,455) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 84.4% (3,910,536) have received their second dose." ​ "90.0% (3,893,775) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose and 85.0% (3,676,200) have received their second dose."


Easy_Beginning_8336

90% of adults are one dosed! Don't think we will get to 90% for 12+ this Friday (my prediction from two weeks ago). I think we could get 85% double dosed for 12+ by Friday but it will be close (my other prediction).


crimxona

How do you normally get the other dose figure? Didn't see that breakdown this time


cyclinginvancouver

There have been five new health-care facility outbreaks at Chilliwack General Hospital, Valleyhaven Retirement Community, Harrison Pointe, Norman Manor (Fraser Health) and Amica Edgemont (Vancouver Coastal Health). The outbreak at Tofino General Hospital (Island Health) has been declared over, for a total of 29 active outbreaks, including: ​ long-term care: Willingdon Care Centre, Westminster House, Magnolia Gardens, Manoah Manor, Cherington Place, West Shore Laylum, Queens Park Care Centre, Heritage Village, Valleyhaven Retirement Community (Fraser Health); Amica Lions Gate, Amica Edgemont (Vancouver Coastal Health); Cottonwoods Care Centre, Overlander, Village by the Station, Haven Hill Retirement Centre, Deni House (Interior Health); and Wrinch Memorial Hospital (Northern Health). ​ acute care: Mission Memorial Hospital, Chilliwack General Hospital (Fraser Health); University Hospital of Northern BC, GR Baker Memorial Hospital and Bulkley Valley District Hospital (Northern Health). ​ assisted or independent living: Sunset Manor, Evergreen Manor, Menno Terrace West, The Emerald at Elim Village, Swedish Assisted Living Residence, Harrison Pointe and Norman Manor (Fraser Health).


Bibbityboo

Ugh I keep waiting for these to slow down :(


Dave2onreddit

The last 57 weekend totals, divided into waves. Bold represents the equivalent week in the second and third wave. Second Wave, from September 28, 2020: 267->358‐>448‐>499->817->1120->1565->1959->2398->2077->2020->2146->1667->1312->1646->**1475**->1330->1344->1158 Third Wave, from February 8, 2021: 1236->1231->1428->1478->1462->1506->1785->2518->2966->3289->2960->2491->2174->1759->1360->**974**->708->481->277->229->145->87 Fourth Wave, from July 12, 2021 123->156->267->541->1079->1434->1711->1853->1892->1984->1692->2239->1986->1705->1845‐>**1618**


bobbybittman

Boy that would be great if this truly did represent the beginning of a free fall as the equivalent weeks in other waves did. It is really trying seeing these numbers stuck at such high levels, especially compared to other provinces.


-DRK-Noah

Lowest since 10 weeks ago!!


Bierski

Good call, but not by much. Thought it would be lower with the number of people vaccinated and restrictions in place since 10 weeks ago. Is this because of the Delta variant? Heading into winter?


dj_soo

It's a combination of delta variant and the fact that our vaccinated majority is not spread evenly across the province. Since Northern BC, East Fraser, and parts of the interior have much less of the population vaccinated, Delta is contagious enough that it will root out pretty much everybody. Before Delat, covid classic and even Alpha wasn't contagious enough to get everybody in these smaller, more isolated towns. Add to that school being back in session and the best we seem to do is a bit of a plateau. If you look at the highly vaccinated areas like VCH (and especially Vancouver), you seem much less spread and much lower numbers - even with school in session.


timmywong11

I mean…at least it’s less flat than previous weeks 🤷🏻‍♂️ Hopefully this is the dip we’ve been waiting for.


mightylfc

Buy the dip!!


TheFoggyShrew

Down over 200 cases compared to last weekend. That's pretty encouraging. 20 additional deaths is upsetting to see.


pnwetc

Deaths are sometimes a lagging indicator. Those numbers may get worse even as infection numbers fall, at least for a week or two.


cyclinginvancouver

Oct. 22-23: 613 new cases Oct. 23-24: 529 new cases Oct. 24-25: 476 new cases


MrJeanPoutine

A breakdown of the number of people who have **ACTIVE** COVID cases that have been tested as of right now for the province and broken down per region which are in bold. Also included, what things were looking like in the last four multiple reporting periods before today (10/18, 10/12, 10/04, 9/27). BC as a whole: **1 in every 1,021 people** *(10/18: 1 in every 1,031 people, 10/12: 1 in every 978 people, 10/04: 1 in every 847 people, 9/27: 1 in every 832 people)* Health authority breakdowns: FH: **1 in every 936 people** (*10/18: 1 in every 932 people, 10/12: 1 in every 871 people, 10/4: 1 in every 814 people, 9/27: 1 in every 855 people)* VCH: **1 in every 2,019 people** (*10/18: 1 in every 1,947 people, 10/12: 1 in every 1,931 people, 10/4: 1 in every 1,455 people, 9/27: 1 in every 1,483 people)* Interior: **1 in every 1,116 people** *(10/18: 1 in every 955 people, 10/12: 1 in every 882 people, 10/4: 1 in every 655 people, 9/27: 1 in every 640 people)* NH: **1 in every 288 people** *(10/18: 1 in every 341 people, 10/12: 1 in every 360 people, 10/4: 1 in every 311 people, 9/27: 1 in every 258 people)* Island: **1 in every 1,530 people** *(10/18: 1 in every 1,618 people, 10/12: 1 in every 1,355 people, 10/4: 1,317 people, 9/27: 1 in every 1,284 people)* (Note: All numbers are approximate and are rounded up or down at .5 and all figures are using approximate population bases as provided by each health authority).


columbo222

> NH: 1 in every 288 people It's kind of funny that everywhere still asks the question "have you travelled outside of Canada in the last 14 days." Like I can travel drive across the border to go shopping, meaning I had to be vaccinated and get a negative PCR test, which means I'm as sure as ANYONE can be that I don't have COVID at the moment. But I can't get into the swimming pool. Meanwhile someone can go spend a week up north where 1 in 288 have active COVID, not get a test, and it's all good! I'm not saying we should be asking people "Have you travelled to Northern Health," but this arbitrary "did you leave our national borders" question is pretty obsolete at this point.


ipini

Northern Health is nuts. Low vaccine rates mostly everywhere. And minimal local political will to fix that (eg Prince George has still not put in a mandate for its civic employees).


Deep_Carpenter

The seven day average is now 606 cases per day. The change in the last day is +5 and last week is +23. We have remained in 500, 600, and 700s for weeks now. We have never been stuck at a level for so long. The one dose cohort is 250,000 people. This is changing at -3,740 people per day. Of these about 72,700 people had their first dose more than 28 days ago and should ask for a second dose now. I will be doing fewer reports on r/vancouver if only to have fewer keywords for trolls to find. Please note nothing in this comment is a disparagement of the moderators of this sub. They are hard working volunteers.


Easy_Beginning_8336

Thanks for all you do. It is always informative reading your posts. What is the issue with trolls on r/vancouver? I don't see lots of misinformation in these threads. Are there other issues going on somewhere?


Snoopy-Town

Speaking from personal experience, I received quite a few notifications on my cell about anti-vaxxers responding to my posts, but they were nowhere to be found when accessing the thread. Props to the mods for for their hard work in keeping misinformation and nonsense from rampaging this sub.


Deep_Carpenter

I saw your analysis showing the initial reasons weren’t supported by the facts. The only this I wonder is if there is selection bias. That is the mods have to deal with stuff we don’t see. Of course you and I would as*k* they provide some data. Others don’t need that. I’m watching for trolling and trying to support the mods here.


aaadmiral

don't forget to get your flu shots people!


Barley_Mowat

Got mine on Friday at the ICC. Worth noting that they don't really segregate the flu line from the COVID line in any meaningful way. Yes, it's a separate line, but it's right up against the COVID line, meaning you're bumping shoulders with a few hundred people missing at least one dose. In retrospect, I would have preferred going to a pharmacy or a non-COVID clinic. Still, glad I got my seasonal jab.


Grouchy_Cantaloupe_8

I got mine done at ICC this weekend as well, with my <12 kids, and also found this somewhat unnerving. Especially since a couple of people in the COVID vaccine line were doing the chin hammock thing and nobody was enforcing proper mask-wearing.


Barley_Mowat

Oh man, yeah, the chin hammocking was EVERYWHERE when I was there, too. Those are people who are utterly unconvinced about the severity of ANY of this, and are strictly getting their shots (in their arms) so they can continue to get shots in their mouths.


aaadmiral

interesting, last year I got it at croatian cultural centre but this year I couldn't find any provincial clinic like that so I got it at a pharmacy last week. very quick and easy. but anyway, no 'wrong' way to do it!


Barley_Mowat

Same thing we did last year, and first thing I looked for this year. Oh well, made it a two-for and got some pasta at Dario's afterwards, so it worked out.


momster604

Family of 4 done on Friday!


Mrgndana

Yep, easy to register for an appointment on either the Pharmasave or Shoppers websites!


aaadmiral

If you google theres big list of pharmacies through the provinces website as well, I got mine at Alberto pharmacy for example


CivicBlues

Any indication if this year's flu shot is a different strain than last years?


Kara_S

I heard it is four strains whereas last year’s shot was three - source: my Mom who is generally reliable. Lol. I didn’t have anywhere close to the same reaction this year so something is different. Last year I had a big red lump and my arm hurt for a few days. This year was easy.


corvideodrome

It’s different every year. This year’s formulation has two A strains that were not in last year’s version (Victoria/H1N1 09 and Cambodia/H3N2 strains) In addition the other poster is right: in previous years the province did a mix of trivalent/quadrivalent vaccines but this year everyone gets a quadrivalent shot (good news!)


codeverity

I keep waiting for us to get to 90% first doses... We can do it!


waikiki_sneaky

We did it


waterloograd

Only in adults, still waiting for 12+


Parrelium

Now that hockey players can’t play if they’re over 12 and unvaccinated it will go up. I saw 3 different posts today on Facebook with parents bringing their kids in for the shot because it’s mandatory.


Dependent-Raise-6103

I feel like Charlie Brown. I see the daily numbers and I think they’re getting better but a few days later we’re back to the numbers we had before. 😞


dj_soo

we've been stuck for like a month now. Most of it is coming from Northern and Eastern Fraser, but the island is way worse than before. If you look at vaccination rates on the island, it's not surprising - other than victoria and a couple other communities, most of the smaller towns have pretty low vaccination rates - especially if you look at the 18-49yo cohort that spreads the virus the most. 2nd doses for that age range is in the 60-low70% vaccinated range.


waynkerr

No need to scare people. Its literally only Alberni-Clayuquot causing problems. Tofino,Bamfield,Port Alberni, Ucluelet. 29 cases daily avg rate per 100,000. Everywhere else is below 10. Greater Nanaimo: 7 Oceanside: 4 Comox Valley: 4 Greater Campbell River: 3 Greater Victoria: 6 Data is from October 14th - 20th.


chronoreverse

I'm not unhappy with VCH's steady and relatively low numbers but I really do wonder what it would take to get it to go down even further.


corvideodrome

It’ll help when kids under 12 can get their shots. Third doses kicking in for those in LTC and the third dose rollout for immune-compromised will hopefully help as well (and also with deaths I hope)


dj_soo

probably kids getting vaccinated is my guess.


Jagon222

Yea, outside the CRD the vaccination rates drop off pretty quick ...but in some places its not the worst. [The bottom of this page] (https://www.chly.ca/local-news/2020/3/28/covid-19-on-vancouver-island-by-the-numbers) shows the breakdown by region in BC. Nanaimo and Oceanside are ~83% fully vaxxed, whereas Greater Victoria is 90% ...so that could partially explain it. Nanaimo and Alberni/Clayout are some of the worst places on the island and they are at 83 and 79% fully vaxxed, respectively but they are miles better than say Fort Nelson, which is 57%. I think the threshold for things to really work well has to be at the 90+% mark.


dj_soo

When you sort by 18-49 age group, those numbers go way down. That particular age is important because they tend to spread the virus the most. I don’t know what it will take to get young people in these smaller towns vaccinated…


MajurLeagur

I hope my coworkers get the vaccine before the mandate. We are about to be severely short staffed in a place where the more people we have working, the safer the streets are.


Jhoblesssavage

Said goodbye to 2 guys today. I was chuckling as they left. Good times.


waterloograd

Just curious, were they also the people others didn't like before covid?


jyuunbug

Not the person you replied to but my teammate got booted last week for this and I was shellshocked. Never expected it out of her. She was always very nice and courteous to everyone. She had her fair share of people in the company that she'd complain about but it wasn't without good reason and she would not say those things outside of our small team. Still processing the bombshell revelation.


Jhoblesssavage

One yes, one no.


iamsophon

Sad to see that we’re losing our humanity and ability to be compassionate towards one another.


UltraDawn

Agreed. Vaccination is such a safe and simple way to protect your community yet some people are too selfish. It's very discouraging.


iamsophon

A 1000% percent NOT what I meant at all. Do you really think dehumanizing people who think differently than you is the way to go? What the previous poster said about laughing when people were losing their livelihoods is NOT OK. It’s time for us to take a hard look at ourselves and see who we are becoming as a society. Some people who have taken the vaccine think they have the right to treat the other camp worse than if they were animals or sub-humans. We have gone too far.


kiukiumoar

all subjective. some people have enough sympathy to see a pedophile and think they are sick and need help. the mother of the child they raped may see them as less than an animal. you may have enough sympathy and empathy for antivaxxers, but what of the people with loved ones that died because antivaxxers took their loved ones hospital bed for cancer treatment?


MJcorrieviewer

But no one 'lost' their livelihood in this case - they CHOSE to give up their livelihood. No one made them refuse to get vaccinated, that was their own choice.


UltraDawn

The antivaxx side clearly only think of themselves. Participanting in our society involves looking out for the community around you.


Jhoblesssavage

They had months of notice what they needed to do to keep their jobs. They made their choice and gave up what I consider an really sweet gig. They will have a hard time finding a job as good as this one. It's a mistake worther of chuckling at


MJcorrieviewer

Agreed. How anyone can be so selfish as to NOT try to help end a pandemic is beyond me.


Delicious-Tachyons

For comparison, Ontario had 325 yesterday. the vaccine dose speed is constant. Is that the cap on doses available to administer?


ricketyladder

I think it's lack of willing arms, not lack of doses.


Delicious-Tachyons

That's too bad. No amount of arguing with my vaccine resistant acquaintances over the numerical odds of being hospitalized with COVID versus the vaccine had yielded any fruit.


ricketyladder

I hear ya. I've managed to wear down two resistant people and both of them are double vaxxed now, but wow it's a long, tedious, exasperating process.


Delicious-Tachyons

The old man is full of bullshit conspiracies.. It's a depopulation sterility drug (he's 69 so he's not having any kids any time soon), Fauci and Bill Gates are making money off of the patents, etc... Bill Gates bought a ranch therefore is waiting out the end of the world (Bill Gates also bought a hotel chain, but nevermind that, must be a red herring). The WORST offenders are people who previously worked for the bigger vaccine makers who are crazy old people now who go on FOX or OAN in the States and espouse stupid unprovable bullshit that then gets clipped and sent everywhere. How many people are dead because of FOX NEWS or OAN? Lots! Lots and lots and lots! The fucking irony is that the fox news personnel were required to be vaccinated. Thankfully Mom is vaccinated. She ignored him, which is probably for the best.


ipini

I mean he could theoretically have kids. Just look at Pierre Trudeau 😅 Larger point, though… it’s so unfortunate how many of our elders have gone this route of fear and stupidity.


aaadmiral

I don't believe it's a supply issue... unless people are facing long wait times? AFAIK you don't even need an appointment for first dose..?


mathematicaltruths

The government of bc is fine with 20 people dying over the weekend and plans to further loosen restrictions as we enter flu season, this is going to go great...


Jhoblesssavage

They're probably antivaxxers dying, honestly whatever we are at now is mostly sustainable. Just gotta stay he course. What restrictions are loosening?


ipini

Yeah, but they also clog up the hospital for other vital care.


Jhoblesssavage

True. Wish we could triage them elsewhere


jaffacakes077

\~⅓ of BC cases in the past few weeks have been in vaccinated people & many deaths are happening in long-term care facilities where people are fully-vaxxed. So no, it is not just anti-vaxxers dying.


Jhoblesssavage

Cases yes, hospitalizations no. We are never gonna hit covid zero, the best we can hope for is low hospital numbers. Vaccinated people are goin to get covid and hopefully spend a couple days sick on the couch watching Netflix. Unfortunate that its LTC residents still dying, condolences to their families


jaffacakes077

>Cases yes, hospitalizations no. That is incorrect. For Oct 6-19, \~30% of those hospitalized were vaccinated. ​ >We are never gonna hit covid zero, the best we can hope for is low hospital numbers. Over the past few weeks we have had higher per capita deaths than the 3rd wave, From the beginning of the pandemic to July 31 a total of 8,164 people had been hospitalized in BC with covid. From July 31 to Oct 15, an additional 2,381 people have been hospitalized with covid, for a total figure of 10,545. So clearly we do not have low hospital numbers, and now seems like an extremely odd time to be lifting capacity limits. ​ >Unfortunate that its LTC residents still dying, condolences to their families It is also unacceptable that we are experiencing such severe numbers of deaths at [long-term care homes](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-fourth-wave-hits-bc-care-homes-as-vaccine-protection-wanes/) despite possessing all the necessary information & resources we need to prevent their deaths. Unfortunately they & their families deserve more than our 'condolences'.


Jhoblesssavage

What more can be done for LTC, they are triple vaxxed, staff are vaxxed, visitors are vaxxed. Masks and hand sanitizer. What more to prevent their deaths?


beeskers

Ventilation. Ontario has started putting money towards improving ventilation systems in schools and there are studies out seeing how well portable air filters are at reducing transmission.


waterloograd

I know someone who is vaccinated and caught covid (from his kid who got it at school). Exactly as you said, feeling kinda meh on the couch for a day or two and then felt fine. I think they still had to quarantine for a bit though.


Jhoblesssavage

That is the ideal scenario we are currently looking at.... (not to borrow from the trumpers but) covid as a new flu.


Reed82

Why is this being downvoted? The information is accurate.


mathematicaltruths

They lifted the 50% capacity limits for events today or yesterday.


Jhoblesssavage

Events that require 100% vaccination. This is a good thing it's time to get the money flowing in the economy again


mathematicaltruths

The economy recovered ages ago, I don't think this is a good move.


Jhoblesssavage

So what was the point of vaccine passports if it's not going to give us more capacity at restaurants and events?


mathematicaltruths

Allow people to do these things at all...


ygjb

Uh what? Got some evidence to back that claim up? The economy has not recovered.


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PostMalone98

Median age of death is in the mid 80’s with multiple co morbidities